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Trejo line

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I think I have found the surname "Si" associated with the my Trejo line -
does anyone know if there was a Chinese influence in Tlaltenango area?

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Trejo line

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Esperanza, I saw this spelling used in some Jerez Zacatecas records but the
family records show Si.. Sid and finally Cid..
Linda in Nv.

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Trejo line

I think I have found the surname "Si" associated with the my Trejo line -
does anyone know if there was a Chinese influence in Tlaltenango area?
This surname is of Chinese orientation.

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez

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Busco la genealogia de estos Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez tuvieron por lo menos 4 hijos JOseph bautizado 26 dic 1676, Maria b 1 oct 1682, Cristobal 8 oct 1684 y mi antepasada Ines Perez bautiz

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Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez

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Daniel,
Have you considered the possibility that the Tomas Macias Valadez you are looking for is son of Thomas MV and Maria Lopez de Lizaldi m. 13 sept 1659? The timeline fits. The only child that I got for this couple is Pedro MV who married Juana Ruiz de Esparza and had a child also called Thomas MV b.5 june 1681, who can't be the Tomas you are looking for. However, among Paco Romo's testament list, there are two testaments for Maria Lopez de Lizalde: #79 dated 25.08.1720 and #705 dated 29.04.1710. She must list her children in there.
Just an idea.

Jaime Alvarado

REQUEST FOR ADVICE

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Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:

I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

My research pretend to cover to different time lines:

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REQUEST FOR ADVICE

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Salvador,

I was in Nochistlan a few years ago when I walked into a book store and I was
able to find they had several copies of one of her books on Nochistlan.

I have one of those books but I believe it might be possible to find a copy for
you in Nochistlan. If you want, I can inquire with one of my cousins who still
lives there to see if he can find you a copy. You can contact me off-line about
this at, alliecar@pacbell.net

Your Ancestress was and is very famous in Mexico for the same reasons you just
mentioned, she had many academic accomplishments for a woman of her times. She
was also a champion of the rights of the indigenous people of Mexico and she
wrote extensively about their language and their traditions.

Because my family is from Nochistlan and because one of my surnames is Ruiz,
I've done a bit of research on Evelia Clotilde Quirarte.

Saludos,
Alicia de San Jose, Ca.

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New Member - Luna/De Luna Family

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Hi everyone. I'm new to the group and I am excited to be a member.

I'm looking for any relatives of my Grandfather. Here is what I have so far.

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Luna Family

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I posted a picture of my grandparents who also emigrated in 1918 --- in
fact this was their passport picture. Their names were Manuel Luna and
Norberta Herrera - both from the Tlaltenango area.

Luna Family

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I'm on page 221, informacion matrimonial 1850-1853 -- still have not come
across their marriage documentation in the family search documentation.

Is this where you got the information?

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Luna Family

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First, thank you so much for looking! I do appreciate it very much!

Second, I got my grandparents marriage information off of my Grandfathers Petition for Naturalization that he filled out himself.

I do know they immigrated to the U.S. in June of 1918, so my grandparents married a few months before immigrating.

Again, thank you for looking!

Patricia Jacobson

Luna Family

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HI, Patricia...Where are your Lunas from? My family comes from the Juchipila, Zaca. area..
Raul Luna

--- On Wed, 2/2/11, tricia520@gmail.com wrote:

From: tricia520@gmail.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luna Family
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:34 AM

First, thank you so much for looking! I do appreciate it very much!

Second, I got my grandparents marriage information off of my Grandfathers Petition for Naturalization that he filled out himself.
I do know they immigrated to the U.S. in June of 1918, so my grandparents married a few months before immigrating.

Again, thank you for looking!

Patricia Jacobson

Map of Parish Boundaries/Plano de Los Curatos, 1780

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Hello,

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Plano de Curatos

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Arturo

Thank you for finding this!

With the information you provided, I looked for the image on PARES, and was able to find it.

The colors of the PARES image are not as nice as those in the book you located, but the scan provides more detail. Also, the file is not real large (only about 800 Kb). You can enlarge it significantly without much loss of detail.

To get the image from PARES go to http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=100

In the box at the top of the search field labeled Buscar, enter the phrase "curatos de Nueva Galicia", but without the quote marks. Click on Buscar at the bottom of the page.

On the next page, under Archivo de Indias click on Mapas y Planos. On the next page, click on the text that begins with "Plano que", and on the next page, click on the box with the text "Ver imagenes" near the top. The image will then open in the next page.

Click on the large image to further enlarge it. Right click on the enlarged image will allow

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19221

Plano de Curatos

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A note ...

After I downloaded the map, I went back to the PARES iamge.

There are some control buttons on the left side of the image. I clicked the one that looks like a circle that is half white and half colored. The map then changed to normal colors. I could then download it in color!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

updated JPG of map

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Thanks to information that George provided, I put the more-detailed map from PARES here:

Note that I deleted the previous files.

I found that if you create a PDF of the JPG, the image is more detailed when you zoom in than with the original JPG. However, the PDF version wouldn't upload when I tried loading to the above folder, perhaps because it was 7MB?

Arturo
Washington, DC

Plano de Curatos

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George,

Thank you for this useful information. It seems that the PARES web site is
getting easier to use than in the past. This is good.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

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Arturo

Thank you for finding this!

With the information you provided, I looked for the image on PARES, and was
able to find it.

The colors of the PARES image are not as nice as those in the book you
located, but the scan provides more detail. Also, the file is not real large
(only about 800 Kb). You can enlarge it significantly without much loss of
detail.

To get the image from PARES go to
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=100

In the box at the top of the search field labeled Buscar, enter the phrase

Translation Accelerator/Tips

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I, too, like Google translator and as George stated, the accelerator is NOT always entirely accurate, but is adequate enough to give you a fair understanding of the translation.

Announce Digest, Vol 58, Issue 10

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I opened up the TUTRAMITEENMEXICO site and found they have a US phone
number:
1-214-872-6483.

translation websites

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History, Culture and General Discussion

Thank you for your suggestions. None of the translation sites work
for www.tutramiteenmexico.com website. I don't think it wants to be
translated.

Linda

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Translation of website

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My experience has been that translation of an entire webpage really never works well.

You best bet is to cut and paste the various parts. I did this an it worked. You'll need to do this page by page (or perhaps only a part of the page).

For civil birth records, it seems that the normal service this company provides is to get official copies for you. To correct a record is a legal process that they may not do, or you would to talk to them about specifically.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

translation websites

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What do you need translated from the site? What is it you are looking for? I
may be able to help you.

Armando

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Linda wrote:

> Thank you for your suggestions. None of the translation sites work for
> www.tutramiteenmexico.com website. I don't think it wants to be
> translated.
>
> Linda
>

Talavera or Falavera

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Can anyone tell me if Ts in the past looked like Fs sometimes? I've not
noticed it before but then again I don't have many ancestors with surnames
beginning with a T.

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T or F

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Sometimes it is hard to distinguish between a capital T and a capital F. It helps if it is a common name like Trevino or Talavera.

T or F

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What I found confusing is searching "Falavera" surname on familysearch.org I
do come up with hits, but I'm wondering if those are due to misreading of
the records when they were extracted.

T or F

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I assume it is due to a misreading, which was common when the were
trancribed, since I can't find the surname Falavera anywhere else on the net
and much less in Spain.

Armando

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

> What I found confusing is searching "Falavera" surname on familysearch.orgI
> do come up with hits, but I'm wondering if those are due to misreading of
> the records when they were extracted.

T or F

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I did the same and have come to the same conclusion. But I can totally
understand it as it clearly looks like an F on one record. Thanks for the
responses.

T or F

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There is a Guide to Spanish Alphabet (writing): 12th through 17th Centuries
in the files section of NuestroRanchos at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17706 that allows you to see the
changes and various forms of writing each letter and number. There should be
one created by us that has even more examples with common misinterpretations
based on what we find. I have thought of trying to get some collaborative
projects together for this and also a spreadsheet of books, dates, and names
for the records available online since many times the familysearch site has
missing or incorrect info that is almost impossible to have corrected. Can
you upload or send me copies of what you have so I can see the cause of
confusion?

Thanks, Armando

Existe un PDF con tablas de ejemplos desde el siglo 12 hasta el 17 en la
sección de archivos de NuestroRanchos en
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17706 que nos permite ver los cambios
y las diversas formas de escribir las letras y numeros. Deberiamos

Copy of an original civil record-translating website

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Hi,
I've tried four different translation websites and none of them could
translate the tutramiteenmexico.com website.

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Copy of an original civil record-translating site

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Dear Linda,
I have seen the TuTramiteEnMexico.com website. You probably do not need the translation of the entire site. We have had an English-Spanish-English translation business since 1992.
We can translate the parts you need. Or let me know exactly what you are looking for and I will devote some time to finding it and probably translating that instead, complimentary.
As for Google, as we say in Spanish, it is better than nothing.
In my experience with German documents from my maternal line, I used Google into both, Spanish and English, to try to make sense of it all, but I ended up hiring a freelance German colleage who works for us when we need him.
Angelina Casillas-Damm

Google language tools

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Try google language tools. http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

The translation can be somewhat rough, but it is usually adequate so can you get a reasonable understanding of what is being said.

The site will also apparently do a whole webpage, but I've not used that; I just cut and paste the parts I'm interested in.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Luna Family from Tlaltenango

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I don't seem to be able to break any further than what I now have for my
Luna line. I was able to find Maria Trejo's parents (Tomas Trejo and Maria
Espinoza).

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Luna Family

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I looked at the marriage record for Felix Luna and Maria Trejo. They had a dispensation for 4th degree consanguinity and 4th degree affinity. Have you looked for the matrimonial information? This may provide some details.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Luna Family

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what does 4th degree consanguinity and 4th degree affinity mean? Thank you. Carol (Campos) Lester
---- gpf13@aol.com wrote:
> I looked at the marriage record for Felix Luna and Maria Trejo. They had a dispensation for 4th degree consanguinity and 4th degree affinity. Have you looked for the matrimonial information? This may provide some details.
>
>
> George Fulton
> Pleasanton, CA

Consanguinty

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Consanguinity means a blood relationship. The definitions of degree vary somewhat by source.

In the Catholic Church, 4th degree consanguinity means 3rd cousins. If you do a google search, you will find articles with tables that illustrate the degrees.

Affinity, on the other hand, means kinship by marriage, ie, an "in-law." In the Church, Canon 109 states:

1. Affinity arises from a valid marriage, even if not consummated, and exists between a man and the blood relatives of the woman and between the woman and the blood relatives of the man.
2. It is so computed that those who are blood relatives of the man are related in the same line and degree by affinity to the woman, and vice versa.

The Church's Canon Law banned marriages within the fourth degree since about 1215, but dispensations were commonly given.

Sometimes the dispensation will give all the details of the relationship, sometimes not.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Consanguinty

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Thank you for the primer, Mr. Fulton. I found your response of great interest, and claity,too.
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Consanguinity means a blood relationship. The definitions of degree vary somewhat by source.

In the Catholic Church, 4th degree consanguinity means 3rd cousins. If you do a google search, you will find articles with tables that illustrate the degrees.

Affinity, on the other hand, means kinship by marriage, ie, an "in-law." In the Church, Canon 109 states:

Consanguinity

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You're welcome!

It is always interesting to find these statements in the marriage records, as in this case. If the dispensation is with the matrimonial investigation there is always the hope that it will provide all the details. Some do, and unfortunately some do not. The dispensations are only sometimes filed with the matrimonial investigation (I looked for this one going back four months prior, but no luck), but sometimes they are elsewhere, perhaps with the diocesan records.

I've seen references that say there are sometimes actual family tree charts in the dispensations, but I've not yet actually seen one.

My experience is that the matrimonial investigation is about a month prior to the wedding, more or less. If a dispensation is needed, the process could start several months prior.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Alvarez Campos

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https://familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.familysearch.o…
Segun el acta de Bautismo de Senon Paulino Alvarez Campos hijo de Jose Maria Alvarez y Ana Francisca Campos bautizado el 23 jun 1839 C600843 film 443989 sus abuelos eran Juan de Dios Albarez y Rafaela de Campos y del lado materno Francisco Campos y Ana Cornejo..

Lety Reynoso

Alvarez Campos

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Juan De Dios Alvares
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

spouse:
Rafaela De Campos

marriage:
15 May 1793 — Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom's name:
Juan De Dios Alvares

bride's name:
Rafaela De Campos

marriage date:
15 May 1793

marriage place:
Santo Thomas De Momax,Momax,Zacatecas,Mexico

indexing project (batch) number:
M60084-5

system origin:
Mexico-ODM

source film number:

444019

Juan De Dios Alvares
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

spouse:
Rafaela De Campos

record title:
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

name:
Jose Maria Alvares Campos

gender:
Male

baptism/christening date:
04 Feb 1796

baptism/christening place:
SANTO THOMAS DE MOMAX,MOMAX,ZACATECAS,MEXICO

father's name:
Juan De Dios Alvares

mother's name:
Rafaela De Campos

indexing project (batch) number:
C60084-1

system origin:
Mexico-ODM

source film number:
443987

Maria Franca. Campos Cornejo
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

residence

Pregunta

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Mi búsqueda de mis antepasados culmina por falta de más datos, en mi ascendiente Lorenzo Alvarez. Encuentro su boda en 1585 en lo que hoy es Lagos de Moreno Jalisco.

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Pregunta

Comment

Ramon, un servidor es Jose Maria Vallejo Mercado.
Sobre lo que preguntas de Lorenzo Alcarez Tostado, esta la informacion en el segundo tomo de Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, de Mariano Gonzalez Leal,
donde estan los datos de sus abuelos, su padre Juan Alvarez Viera casado con Beatriz Tostado, fue el matrimonio que dio origen al apellido Alvarez Tostado, y aparecen sus ancestros tambien.

Sin mas recibe saludos.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: alvarezdmezcala@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:24:42 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos]
>
> Mi búsqueda de mis antepasados culmina por falta de más datos, en mi ascendiente Lorenzo Alvarez. Encuentro su boda en 1585 en lo que hoy es Lagos de Moreno Jalisco.
>
> ¿Alguien de ustedes tiene alguna sugerencia?
>
> Gracias
>
> Juan Ramón Alvarez

Pregunta

Comment

Gracias caballero
Yo me refiero al padre de Juan Alvarez Viera. Los datos terminan en 1585 precisamente con su boda en Lagos de Moreno.

Un abrazo

Juan Ramón

--- On Sat, 1/22/11, jose maria vallejo mercado wrote:

From: jose maria vallejo mercado
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pregunta
To: "consulta genealogica" , "Juan Ramon Alvarez"
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:36 AM

Sin mas recibe saludos.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: alvarezdmezcala@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:24:42 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos]
>
> Mi búsqueda de mis

Pregunta

Comment

Saludos Juan Ramón y José María:

También vengo de dicha familia varias veces vía la línea materna y paterna. Dijo bien sobre los orígenes de los Álvarez Tostado comienza según mis notas con Juan Álvarez Viera y Beatriz Ruiz Tostado antiguos vecinos de la ciudad de Zacatecas. Fallece Juan Álvarez Viera en Teocaltiche el 13 de agosto de 1672 casó hacia 1615 probable en la ciudad de Zacatecas. Beatriz era hija de Lorenzo Ruiz Tostado y Elena Martínez posiblemente vecinos de la ciudad de Zacatecas.

Disfortunadamente los registros parroquiales del Sagrario de dicha ciudad eran quemados; una lástima que me da a la alma. Podíamos saber mucho más de los principios de Zacatecas. Aun podemos saber por lo menos sus Notarías, el Archivo General de la Nación, La Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara: incluyen las testamentarías y otras notarías de Zacatecas y los archivos españoles como fuentes de información.

Juan Álvarez era hijo del capitán Lorenzo Álvarez casó el 4 de marzo de 1585 en Santa María

Pregunta

Comment

Muchas gracias Daniel Mendez Torres

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Daniel Méndez de Torres wrote:

From: Daniel Méndez de Torres
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pregunta
To: "Nuestros Ranchos"
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 8:09 PM

Saludos Juan Ramón y José María:

Pregunta

Comment

Hello: forgive me but I do not speak spanish. however, I am researching the Alvarez family line in my family and have only been able to locate my line back to a Jose Ma. Alvarez (Albares?) who married a Ana Francisca Campos in 1836. I have not been able to locate their parents but believe Ana may be a relative of the Campos line also in my family. They were married in Momax, Zacatecas Mexico. Most of the family I know of are from this area of Zacatecas and Jalisco. Anyone know these people? Would appreciate any help along this line! Carol (Campos) Lester---- "Juan Ramón Alvarez" wrote:
> Muchas gracias Daniel Mendez Torres

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Daniel Méndez de Torres wrote:

From: Daniel Méndez de Torres
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pregunta
To: "Nuestros Ranchos"
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 8:09 PM

Saludos Juan Ramón y José María:

También vengo de dicha familia varias veces vía la línea materna y paterna. Dijo bien sobre los orígenes de los Álvarez Tostado

Lorenzo Alvarez

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Lorenzo Alvarez el mio; n.1555;caso con Agustina Viera,4 Mar. 1585, Santa Maria de los Lagos, Jal.

Mas no se.
Jorge Herrera Saucedo

Lorenzo Alvarez

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Gracias, es lo que yo tengo.

--- On Fri, 1/21/11, mngherrera@verizon.net wrote:

From: mngherrera@verizon.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lorenzo Alvarez
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 8:04 PM

Lorenzo Alvarez el mio; n.1555;caso con Agustina Viera,4 Mar. 1585, Santa Maria de los Lagos, Jal.

Mas no se.
Jorge Herrera Saucedo

Copy of an original civil record - Leticia Leon Morales

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Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a specialized
agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO.

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Copy of an original civil record - Leticia Leon Morales

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thank you very much for the info, I´ll pass it to my friend.

Gracias por la información, la pasaré a mi amiga. Feliz Año!

Leticia Leon Morales

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De: Salvador Quirarte
Para: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Enviado: miércoles, 26 de enero, 2011 19:11:55
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of an original civil record - Leticia Leon
Morales

Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a specialized
agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO. Contact them to verify if they have
coverage in the town you need.

Their web site is: www.tutramiteenmexico.com , so you can look what you have
to do.
The payment can be done in several banks or at any Oxxo store in Mexico.

Hope this info will help your friend.
Saludos
squirarte

2011/1/26

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Ordination Records

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My great grandfather, Jose Mucio Codina, was ordained to the priesthood in Guadalajara in 1855.

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early 1600 Ordination Records

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Hi Omar,

Great find on your great grandfather. I looking for same records for a Br. Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo whow was ordained circa the early to mid 1600s. Did you by any chance order films for those years? Also, can you give an example of one the film numbers you usde so that I might be to able to order some from LDS.

Thanks,

Sergio Gutierrez

early 1600 Ordination Records

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I did not look for records in that time period, but for the Diocese of Guadalajara look at films 0168673 thru 0168678. They are titled Documentos eclesiásticos--ordenes.

Omar Codina

Ordination Records

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Wow, this was a great message. Was it difficult to find the record? Did
you need to look at many rolls of film to find it? Was there any kind of
index? How did you know to look at the 1855 year? I have a possible
priest relative (Cipriano Puente) in about 1865 from Huejucar but don't
know how far back in those Diocese records to look.

Very interesting message, wonderful contribution, thanks.

joseph

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omar_codina@msn.com wrote:
> My great grandfather, Jose Mucio Codina, was ordained to the
> priesthood in Guadalajara in 1855. I found his ordination documents

Ordination Records

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The records for the Diocese of Guadalajara are not indexed and the date ranges are widely overlapped. I looked through 14 films before I found the right one. Here are some tips that may help you narrow the search:

1. The records are batched according to the ordination date not the date he entered the seminary.
2. My great grandfather was ordained at age 30, so look a few years before and after this age.
3. The batches of records all have a cover page, making it easy to skim through the films.

In the batch, I found certificates of baptism and confirmation, completion of course certificates, many character witness testimonials and the correspondence within the diocese.

Good luck!

Records

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Dear Group,
I've never had trouble accessing the Mexico church records before, but for two days now I've been unable to. I go to the familysearch.org site and click beneath the world map on US Canada and Mexico. Normally that would do it. This method still opens Europe and South America. Is that portion of the site down? If not, what am I doing wrong and how do I access the records? Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Alice

Records

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You are correct, the map doesn't seem to be uploading...however, I've been
able to access records by typing in a family name....and go from
there...hopefully, this helps you out.

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Records

Comment

You're right. I tried that, and it accesses indexed records, but not the actual church records. Is it known when the church records will be made accessible? Thanks so much for your response. Alice

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From: Latina1955@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Records
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 5:04 AM

You are correct, the map doesn't seem to be uploading...however, I've been
able to access records by typing in a family name....and go from
there...hopefully, this helps you out.

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Records

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Its working now. The bookmark I had set before doesn't work but this new
one does:
https://familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.familysearch.o….
-Raquel

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YEA! I'm back in business. FYI: The site is up and running, too.
Thanks so much for everyone's help. Alice

--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Records
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:13 AM

Its working now. The bookmark I had set before doesn't work but this new
one does:
https://familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.familysearch.o….
-Raquel

Copy of an original civil record

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Hello everybody.

Well, I don´t know which is the appropiate forum to place my request so appologize in advance.

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Copy of original civil record

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The best way for your friend to start would be to find out if there is a process for correcting errors in records. She should be able to find out by visiting the local registrar in the municipality where she lives.

If it is possible, it may require an affidavit or other document, such as a sworn statement, from someone who has personal knowledge of what the record should be. The local registrar should be able to answer this question.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Copy of original civil record

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Thank you George, I will suggest her this.

Regards, Leticia Leon

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De: "gpf13@aol.com"
Para: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Enviado: miércoles, 26 de enero, 2011 8:59:53
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of original civil record

The best way for your friend to start would be to find out if there is a process
for correcting errors in records. She should be able to find out by visiting the
local registrar in the municipality where she lives.

If it is possible, it may require an affidavit or other document, such as a
sworn statement, from someone who has personal knowledge of what the record
should be. The local registrar should be able to answer this question.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Solicito información

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Me interesa adquirir los libros:

1.- la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
2.- Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia (tomo 1 y tomo 3)

Alguien me podría indicar donde podría conseguirlos?

Libros de Mariano Gonzalez Leal 1/24/2011

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History, Culture and General Discussion

Repuesta que recibi de mi cuingyado que vive en Leon y tiene aingyos de conocer a Mariano:

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Solicito información

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Me interesa adquirir los libros:

1.- la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
2.- Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia (tomo 1 y tomo 3)

Alguien me podría indicar donde podría conseguirlos?

Raul Hurtado Pérez

Libros

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Alguien puede decirme como conseguir una copia del libro
Nochistlan, Zac su parroquia Los Duran y otras familias antiguas estudio historico genalogico por el Ing. Jesus Duran Rodriguez.

Gracias,

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Solicito información

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Me interesa adquirir los libros:

1.- la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
2.- Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia (tomo 1 y tomo 3)

Alguien me podría indicar donde podría conseguirlos?

Raul Hurtado Pérez

Moctezuma's Descendants

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I've just posted a chart with six generations of Moctezuma's descendants, covering the period of about 1468 to the early 1600s. It is in the Files area under my name.

De Alba

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No se como enviar e-mails a los miembros, así que aquí me comunico con Maureen Bejar.

Maureen, you have De Alba's in your family tree. I believe we have some relatives in common.

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De Alba

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My husband's 5th great-grandmother was Gertrudis de Alva, born 1745. She married Torivio Aguirre in Aguascalientes in 1763. He was born in 1743. Might she be in your lines?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mariadjimenez@earthlink.net
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:26:36 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] De Alba
>
> No se como enviar e-mails a los miembros, así que aquí me comunico con Maureen Bejar.
>
> Maureen, you have De Alba's in your family tree. I believe we have some relatives in common.
>
> Please send me an e-mail.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Maria Jimenez

De Albas

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Maureen,

Thank you for responding. We merge with Andres De Alba Reynoso. His father is Jose De Alba, and that is as far back as I go on the De Alba side.

Maria

Retonos de espana en la nueva galicia.

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Hola, dos personas me han encargado el libro de Reronos de espana en la
nueva galicia, yo voy a Tepatitlan en dos semanas y conseguiré los libros,
me gustaría saber cuantas personas mas lo quieren

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Retonos de espana en la nueva galicia.

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se refieren al nuevo (los nuevos) libro? o todavia la edicion pasada?
Por que hace poco vi al autor y me dijo estaba ya casi listo el nuevo libro
y creo que son como 7 tomos.

Retonos de espana en la nueva galicia.

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Hola hace unos dias me comunique con don Guillermo Padilla Origel residente de Leon
que tambien conoce don Mariano Gonzalez Leal segun el hay 12 tomos que seran
editado por el gobierno de Jalisco y en unos 2-3 meses estan listo para la venta. Nos
preparamos cuando sucede.

Daniel Méndez Camino

ANTONIO JIMENEZ DE CASTRO HIJO DE ANTONIO JIMENEZ Y FABIANA DE URRACA

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Hola a todos los compañeros del foro, me gustaria saber si alguien tiene mas informacion de esta pareja yo desciendo de los Jimenez de castro ya que supuestamente un hijo de esta pareja Antonio jimen

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ANTONIO JIMENEZ DE CASTRO

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Los hijos de Antonio Jimenez de Castro y Maria Lopez de Lara fueron seis:

Antonio casado con Tereza Angela Camacho,3 Mar. 1670.

Carlos

Catalina casado con Capitan Domingo Manzo y Zuniga.

Fabiana casada con Alferez Juan Torres Villasana, 25 Nov. 1670.

Juan de Dios casado con Francisca Gutierrez de Mendoza,1677.

Joseph casado con Maria Gutierrez de Mendoza; Jalos. 1683; pelicula #868325. Este es el mio.

Esta informacion fue compilada tambien por Jaime Holcombe; se puede ver con datos

en la pelicula #868247.

Pero creo que esto ya lo tienes.

Jorge Herrera Saucedo.

ANTONIO JIMENEZ DE CASTRO

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Jorge:

Gracias por sus datos que proporcionó acerca la familia Jiménez de Castro. Me da interés de esta familia ya que desciendo de dicha familia vía mi línea materna. Haré búsqueda y compartiré que encuentro.

Daniel Méndez Camino

ANTONIO JIMENEZ DE CASTRO

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Hola Jose, es esto lo que buscas?

Antonio Jimenez de Castro casado con Fabiana Urraca, en San Ascencio, Logrono,Espana.

Padres de Fabiana; Martin Urraca y Graciana Vocos.

Padres de Graciana son Martin Vocos y Francisca Cardenas.

Padres de Martin son Francisco Vocos y Catalina Torrecilla.

Fechas despues de Antonio y Fabiana no tengo.

Jorge Herrera
Post Data: Francisca nacio en Badaran, Corduin, Logrono, Espana.

ANTONIO JIMENEZ DE CASTRO

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Hola Jorge,

Que interés tengo en esto a la vez le pido que fuente o persona comprobó está línea. No discredito su post pero porque desciendo de dicha familia vía la línea materna quisiera saberlo para mis estudios personales.

Gran saludo,

Daniel Méndez Camino

P.D. si se que Antonio Jimenez de Castro y Fabiana Urraca estan probados pero despues
de ellos no lo sabia.

Gracias

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Mil gracias Jorge es algo muy interesante lo que me comentas de la linea de Fabiana de Urraca, me interesaria mucho saber de donde conseguiste estos datos para ver si puedo conseguir copias de los documentos como acta de matrimonio o bautismos, y del lado de los Jimenez no tienes mas hacia atras de Antonio Jimenez de Castro

Felipe Ortiz y Juana de la Barrera. Cuquío. 1690 aprox.

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