Hello my name is Cristobal

I am new in the system, I am have 5 years making research about the last
names Villalobos, Quesada, Lomelín and Ortiz.

I would like to know if somebody now about the Villalobos in Encarnación de
Diaz( La Chona), Jalisco. I would like to get information before 1800.

My GGGGrandfather was MarcelIno Villalobos Losano how married with Rita
Lopez Ramirez I think the dates of when the were born or married are bad,
maybe Marcelino married several times.

I send you information about:

Descendants of Marcelino VILLALOBOS Losano

Generation No. 1

1. MARCELINO VILLALOBOS2 LOSANO (FERNANDO1 VILLALOBOS) was born 1792 in
Encarnación de Diaz, Jal, and died in Encarnación de Diaz, Jal. He married
RITA LOPEZ RAMIREZ 1837 in Encarnación de Diaz Jal. She was born 01 Ene
1794 in Encarnación de Diaz, Jal, and died in Encarnación de Diaz, Jal.

Children of MARCELINO Villalobos and RITA Lopez RAMIREZ are:

2. i. FERNANDO3 VILLALOBOS, b. 01 Jun 1838, San Juan de
los Lagos, Jal.

3. ii. ISIDRO VILLALOBOS, b. 1839.

4. iii. NIEVES VILLALOBOS, b. 1844.

Generation No. 2

2. FERNANDO3 VILLALOBOS (MARCELINO VILLALOBOS2 LOSANO, FERNANDO1
VILLALOBOS) was born 01 Jun 1838 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jal1. He married
(1) SEBERIANA CORNEJO 02 Mar 1859 in Encarnación de Diaz Jal, daughter of
FRANCISCO CORNEJO and MARIA VILLALOBOS. She was born 26 Feb. 1843 in
Encarnación de Diaz, Jal. He married (2) MARIA DEL REFUGIO CORNEJO 13 Nov.
1867 in Encarnación de Diaz Jal, daughter of IGNACIO CORNEJO and ANA
CORNEJO.

Child of FERNANDO VILLALOBOS and SEBERIANA CORNEJO is:

i. ANACLETO4 VILLALOBOS, b. 13 Jul. 1862, Encarnación
de Diaz, Jal; d. 01 Ene 1935, San Luis Potosí; m. (1) MARIA DEL REFUGIO
QUESADA, 1890; b. Encarnación de Diaz, Jal; m. (2) BONIFACIA FLORES, 1900;
b. 14 May 1873, Las Trojes, Encarnación de Diaz, Jal; d. 19 Ago. 1973, San
Luis Potosí.

Children of FERNANDO VILLALOBOS and MARIA CORNEJO are:

ii. BRIGIDO4 VILLALOBOS.

iii. MARIA DE LOS DOLORES VILLALOBOS.

iv. FRANCISCA VILLALOBOS.

v. PIA VILLALOBOS.

vi. SERGIO VILLALOBOS, m. MARIA VAZQUEZ, 1905.

vii. MARIA MERCEDES VILLALOBOS.

viii. POMPOSA VILLALOBOS.

ix. RAMONA VILLALOBOS, m. JUAN MAYAGOITIA.

x. MARIA DE JESUS VILLALOBOS.

xi. JUANA VILLALOBOS.

xii. GREGORIO VILLALOBOS, m. MARIA DEL REFUGIO ROMO,
1894.

3. ISIDRO3 VILLALOBOS (MARCELINO VILLALOBOS2 LOSANO, FERNANDO1 VILLALOBOS)
was born 1839. He married JACOBA AGUILERA 14 Jul. 1857 in Teocaltiche Jal
(Señora de los dolores), daughter of JOSE AGUILERA and MA. GARCIA. She was
born 1839.

Children of ISIDRO VILLALOBOS and JACOBA AGUILERA are:

i. PEDRO4 VILLALOBOS, b. 1860; m. ASCENCION OROZCO,
1883.

ii. MAXIMINO VILLALOBOS, b. 1864; m. ANASTACIA LOZANO,
1893.

iii. REFUGIO VILLALOBOS, b. 1868; m. JOSEFA CAMPOS,
1895.

iv. AGAPITO VILLALOBOS, b. 20 Sep. 1871, Encarnación de
Diaz, Jal; d. 26 Abr. 1928; m. (1) ROSA GOMEZ, 1901; m. (2) MARIA GUADALUPE
OROZCO, 1914, Ameca Jal.; b. 01 May 1890, Tototlan Jal.; d. 13 Ago. 1940.

4. NIEVES3 VILLALOBOS (MARCELINO VILLALOBOS2 LOSANO, FERNANDO1 VILLALOBOS)
was born 1844. He married MARIA MORA 1877, daughter of PEDRO MORA.

Children of NIEVES VILLALOBOS and MARIA MORA are:

i. LIBRADO4 VILLALOBOS, m. ELIGIA AGUILERA, 1894.

ii. BRUNA VILLALOBOS.

Best reagrds

Cristóbal Villalobos

Comment

Hi Cristobal,

I have some info on VILLALOBOS from Teocaltiche and La Chona on my database.
I'll go through the info on your email this afternoon and I'll get back to
you in a while. I'm pretty much stuck on Pedro Villalobos (natural son of
Margarita Villalobos), married to Maria Apolinar Reyes Serna.

Agapito Villalobos and Rosa Gomez lived in Valle de Guadalupe around 1900.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de
jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx
Enviado el: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:20 AM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

Hello my name is Cristobal

I am new in the system, I am have 5 years making research about the last
names Villalobos, Quesada, Lomelín and Ortiz.

I would like to know if somebody now about the Villalobos in Encarnación de
Diaz( La Chona), Jalisco. I would like to get information

In reply to by Rodriguez_de_Frias

Comment

Hello Cristobal,

I happen to be reading the film #1155497, Matrimonios de Encarnacion de Diaz, 1778 - 1830. I have it on indefinite loan. By using the IGI I found the following entry:
MARCELINO VILLALOBOS, Spouse: RITA LOPES
Marriage: 14 FEB 1816 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497.

I will probably go the local FHS to read the film again. I can copy the information on Marcelino and Rita then send it on to you. I have noticed the surnames you mentioned in the film. If there are other marriages in that time period in Encarnacion I don't mind locating the info for you. Let me know. I found the following two baptisms in the IGI. They seem to be related.

JOSE ANTONIO VILLALOBOS LOPES,
Christening: 11 MAY 1819 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: MARCELINO VILLALOBOS, Mother: RITA LOPES
C602697 1814 - 1826 1155174

NEPOMUCENO VILLALOBOS LOPES,
Christening: 11 MAR 1817 La Encarnacion

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

Hello David, thank for the information.
The Nepomuceno that you mention maybe he died when he born, because the are another Nepomuceno Villalobos Lopes that was born on 1823
Would be great if you copy me the information and send it to me.

Best regards
Cristóbal

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De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de David P. Delgado
Enviado el: Viernes, 22 de Agosto de 2008 05:21 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

Hello Cristobal,

I happen to be reading the film #1155497, Matrimonios de Encarnacion de Diaz, 1778 - 1830. I have it on indefinite loan. By using the IGI I found the following entry:
MARCELINO VILLALOBOS, Spouse: RITA LOPES
Marriage: 14 FEB 1816 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497.

I will probably go the local FHS to read the film again. I can copy the information on Marcelino and Rita then send

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

Dear David Delgado could you check in the film if come the weddings of Nicolas Lomelín y Ana Maria Martin, also Miguel Santos Romo y Ana Maria Ochoa around 1778-1782. Fernando Villalobos y Maria Nicolasa Losano around 1790 and maybe we can found their parents.
Thanks for all your help.
Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín

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De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de David P. Delgado
Enviado el: Viernes, 22 de Agosto de 2008 05:21 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

Hello Cristobal,

I happen to be reading the film #1155497, Matrimonios de Encarnacion de Diaz, 1778 - 1830. I have it on indefinite loan. By using the IGI I found the following entry:
MARCELINO VILLALOBOS, Spouse: RITA LOPES
Marriage: 14 FEB 1816 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497.

I will probably go the local FHS to read the film again. I can

In reply to by JUAN_CRISTOBAL…

Comment

Cristobal,

I am including the marriage data I discovered in the IGI for the Romo/Ochoa family. You can see that most of them are from Lagos. It looks like the family started in San Juan de los Lagos, went to Lagos, then to Encarnacion.

The Villalobos/Lozano marriage is not in film #1155497. My guess is that their marriage is recorded somewhere else. The film starts with the year 1778. That seems to be the oldest records for Encarnacion. I would try finding them in Aguas or other locations with records older than 1778. I am including the data of four of their children.

I find nothing for Nicolas Lomelin and Ana Maria Martin in film #1155497. I remember his name because I have been researching the Lomelin name for several years. I will look in my notes to see if I may have something there. The Lomelin families in my family tree are all non-European. They married with Briones, Espitia, Magdaleno. I have become so familiar with the records around Encarnacion that it was

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

David, I have been a member for a while, but personal matters are keeping me from pursuing extensively my ancestral history. But I have followed your wonderful work with awe. Your mention of the Romo family in Encarnación suggests a connection with my family from that area. I have learned from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz (film #1155499) that my GGGGF José de los Santos Romo de Vivar y Cornejo was married on 29 May 1861 to María Guadalupe Pedroza. I have extensive family documentation of Santos life, some of it written by his wife, but only the names of his antecedents.

In those parish records, Santos' parents are listed as Pablo Romo (my GGGGGF) and María de la Asención Cornejo, whose marriage is documented in registros parroquiales for José Pablo Romo(christened 28 Mar 1807, per film #1155173 Batch No: C602692, married 18 Nov 1822 in Encarnación).

And finally, the following record from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz , which lists the

In reply to by Karr_Wolfe

Comment

Hello Karr,

I looked in the IGI and yes, the record of the ROMO/CORNEJO marriage is in the film I have on loan at the Oakland FHC. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be at the FHC before Tuesday night next. For sure I can email you a scan of the record from the film, #1155497, next week.

I found the marriage of Romo De Vivar/ Franco in Tepatitlan, see below. The marriage of Villalobos/Aranda is in the Lagos de Moreno records. I listed the IGI info and some baptisms below. Talk to you later.

David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA

**************************************************************************
MARIA DE LA ASENCION CORNEJO,Spouse: PABLO ROMO
Marriage: 18 NOV 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497

Jose Silberio ROMO VILLALOBOS
Christening: 24 Jun 1804, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: Gregorio ROMO, Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO, Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
Mother's Father: Manuel

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

Thank you so much, David. This is wonderful information.

Karr

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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of David P. Delgado
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:03 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

Hello Karr,

I looked in the IGI and yes, the record of the ROMO/CORNEJO marriage is in the film I have on loan at the Oakland FHC. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be at the FHC before Tuesday night next. For sure I can email you a scan of the record from the film, #1155497, next week.

I found the marriage of Romo De Vivar/ Franco in Tepatitlan, see below. The marriage of Villalobos/Aranda is in the Lagos de Moreno records. I listed the IGI info and some baptisms below. Talk to you later.

David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA

**************************************************************************
MARIA DE LA ASENCION CORNEJO,Spouse: PABLO ROMO

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

Dear David P. Delgado
I was reviewing this information.
Do you know if Joseph Manuel De Villalobos is brother from Fernando de Villalobos how married with Nicolasa Losano, they lived in Encarnacion Jal, and have the following children:
. Jun. Josef de Jesus VILLALOBOS LOZANO190 was born on
20 Jun 1774. He
was christened on 10 Jul 1774 in Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico.
ii. MARIA YGNACIA PAULA VILLALOBOS LOZANO191 was
christened on 12 Mar 1780
in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
iii. JPH. CLETO MARZELINO VILLALOVOS LOZANO192 was
christened on 12 May
1782 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
iv. MARIA AGATANA DE LA MERCED VILLALOVOS LOZANO193 was
christened on 19
Jan 1785 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
v. JPH. RAPHAEL VILLALOVOS LOZANO194 was christened on
30 Dec 1783 in La
Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
32 vi. MARCELINO VILLALOBOS LOSANO.

Do you know how are

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

I thought the Lomelinis are ITalian hence Eurpe, mine are usually registered as espanol eventhough not spanish or italiano.
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Comment

If I'm not mistaken the Lomeli are from Genova, Italy. I'm pretty sure this is
what I recall from the genealogy conference in Valle de Guadalupe this year.

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From: Daniel Mendez
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

I thought the Lomelinis are ITalian hence Eurpe, mine are usually registered
as espanol eventhough not spanish or italiano.
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Comment

Carlos de Lomelin (or Lomellini) arrived in Mexico when Italy was under
Spanish domination (1559 to 1713). I have a quotation in my database that
reads "el genovés Carlos de Lomelín casó en Mexticacán en 1609 con Maria de
Benavides. Fue traficante de esclavos. Se establecieron en San Nicolás."
It is a well known fact that Carlos de Lomelín was born in the italian
kingdom of Genova (Reyno de Génova) ca. 1584. He married Maria de
Benavides, a native of Mexticacán, ca. 1609. Their sons Domingo, Lucas,
Carlos, and daughters Juana and María de Lomelín, were born in Mexticacan
between 1610-1630 and probably baptized in Nochistlan, only a few miles
away.

Spain ruled Europe during the reign of Carlos I of Spain (Carlos V of
Germany) and his son Phelipe II. The children of Carlos de Lomelin, all
born in Mexico, were considered "españoles criollos". The surname in Mexico
has been shortened to Lomeli. My good friend Ing. Jorge Caire Lomeli is a
descendant of Carlos de

Comment

Please read below:
MARRIAGE: 9 May 1813 Nstra. Sra. de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mex Nicolasa LOMELI, hl: Francisco LOMELI, Gertrudis CEDILLA
SPOUSE: José Ramón, h.nat. Ana Ma. DE ACOSTA
PADRINOS: Rafael RAMIRES, Miqaela CHAVES
TESTIGO: Dn. Patricio LIRA
FILM: #639759, Batch #M607072
NOTES: Ramón described as "29 yrs., Indio de Atepoca"; Nicolasa described as "22 yrs., India de Atepoca".

MARRIAGE: 14 Feb 1792 Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, México
José Franco. LOMELIN, hnat: Rita LOMELIN, Padre no conocido
SPOUSE: María Gertrudis SEBILLA, hl: Juan Anto. SEVILLO, María Gregoria PADRINOS: José Faustino, María Vicenta
TESTIGOS: Domingo ___? , Gaspar REYES
FILM: 0639758+, Batch #M607071
NOTES: José described as "Yndio Lavorio del Agostadero"; María described as " mulata libre del Alamo".

José Inocencio GOMELIN Sevilla, BAPTISM: 28 Feb 1790 Teocaltiche, Jalisco, México
María Ignacia LOMELIN Sedillo,BAPTISM: 10 Mar 1793 Teocaltiche
José Ponsiano LOMELIN

In reply to by dpdelgadol

Comment

I am sure Lomelini is from ITaly, about the indígenas being Lomelini, I believe it might be since
it was custom for slaves to take on their "master's" surname, it is possible a mulatto line. Mine aare usually registered as Español, eventhough their italian, in México all white people would be
considered spanish eventhough their actually portuguese or italian, french, etc. -Daniel
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Hi. Ricardo
Estaría fantástica toda la información que me pudieses compartir.
Muchas gracias de antemano
Cristóbal Villalobos
San Luis Potosí

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De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Rick
Rodriguez
Enviado el: Viernes, 22 de Agosto de 2008 12:15 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New

Hi Cristobal,

I have some info on VILLALOBOS from Teocaltiche and La Chona on my database.
I'll go through the info on your email this afternoon and I'll get back to
you in a while. I'm pretty much stuck on Pedro Villalobos (natural son of
Margarita Villalobos), married to Maria Apolinar Reyes Serna.

Agapito Villalobos and Rosa Gomez lived in Valle de Guadalupe around 1900.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

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