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Am I wrong...?? Usually the early 1500's records are IGI and not always correct but "word of mouth" information.
Sandra Gómez Mendoza
San Antonio, TX

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Hi Bill, Jaime, and Sofia,

I still believe Temino and Trevino are the same surname. Diego and his family were listed in the cesus in Guadaljara as Temino. Listed that way in the "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia, Guadalajara Tomo I" by Garamendia Leal who did extractions from the archives. I also believe that Temino can also be used a location as in Lenor de Temino, Lenor from Temino.
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Esther A. Herold

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> Hi Esther, Sofia and Bill, i have followed with interest the exchange about Diego Temino de Velasco and relatives, particularly since mi maternal line (Nuevo Leon and Coahuila) descends directly from Diego Treviño and Beatriz Quintanilla. Based on the evidence presented so far, I am inclined to think that Diego Treviño (perhaps the same as the Diego Velazco de Treviño who travelled in 1538 with his mother Francisca Alcocer and brothers Alonso de Velazco and Baltazar Velazco -all listed as sons of Velazco

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Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al

Last Friday I visited the Dallas Public Library in order to check out the book "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia, Guadalajara, Tomo I" by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. While looking for the Treviño connection, I found another book entitled "Origin of the Surnames Garza and Treviño in Nuevo León", by Tomás Mendirichaga Cueva. What they have is a translation the English language made by Edna G. Brown (Corpus Christi, Texas, 1989). I did not find this to be a good translation and will start looking for the original Spanish version. Notwithstanding, I discovered in that book that church records were indeed kept in Mexico City prior to 1575. Mr. Mendirichaga mentions the following three books:

1) Primer Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (Nov. 1536 - Oct. 1547)
2) Segundo Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (1552 - 1669)
3) Tercer Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (Ene. 1570 - Nov. 1589)

Some of the baptisms from the first book (Nov 1536 - Oct 1547) are as

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Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al

I missed the important line "hija del Alcayde de Temyño" when copying the
information about Pedro Pacheco Rodríguez from the "Diccionario
Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de Nueva España" by Francisco
de Icaza. The correct quotation is as follows:

"554.- Pedro PACHO, muerto, dize:

En efecto, quez vezino desta ciudad y natural de la villa de Fregenal, e
hijo legítimo de Pedro Pacho y de Beatriz rrodríguez, vezinos que fueron de
Seuilla, y que ha treze años que pasó a esta Nueua Spaña, y a la contina
después acá ha rresidido en ella, e tenydo armas e cauallos, e que ha seys
años que se casó con Doña Ana de Velasco de Temyño, hija del Alcayde de
Temyño, e que su magestad fue seruido mandar que a la persona que con ella
se casase, se le hiziese merced en qualquier aprouechamyento de la tierra, y
tiene tres hijas que la mayor ha çinco años, y que siruió en la pacificaçión
de Jalisco con Vuestra Señoría Illustrísima, desde el

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I have been researching my family roots in Villa Hidalgo and Teocaltiche,
Jalisco. I noticed in both places that there is an area called Tepusco. As a
matter of fact, my family, VIDAURE, lived for several generations on Rancho
Tepusco in Paso de Sotos.

Anyway, my question is this: does Tepusco mean anything? I just found it be
an unusual word and, for it to be in two different towns, even though they
are close together, it just makes me wonder.

Does anyone know what it means?

Veronica Vidaure Rahorn
Gilbert, AZ

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Actually there is only on Tepusco, its between both Teocaltiche and Villa Hidalgo,
Tepusco and Villa Hidalgo use to be part of Teocaltiche but when the 1770s hit
it seperated itself.

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Bill,

Whap page was that? Thanks,

Esther
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Esther A. Herold

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> Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al
>
> I missed the important line "hija del Alcayde de Temyño" when copying the
> information about Pedro Pacheco Rodríguez from the "Diccionario
> Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de Nueva España" by Francisco
> de Icaza. The correct quotation is as follows:
>
> "554.- Pedro PACHO, muerto, dize:
>
> En efecto, quez vezino desta ciudad y natural de la villa de Fregenal, e
> hijo legítimo de Pedro Pacho y de Beatriz rrodríguez, vezinos que fueron de
> Seuilla, y que ha treze años que pasó a esta Nueua Spaña, y a la contina
> después acá ha rresidido en ella, e tenydo armas e cauallos, e que ha seys
> años que se casó con Doña Ana de Velasco de Temyño, hija del Alcayde de
> Temyño, e que su magestad fue seruido mandar que a la persona que con ella
> se casase, se le hiziese merced en

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Esther,

The page that has the autobiography of Pedro Pacheco Rodriguez aka Pedro
Pacho in the "Diccionario Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de
Nueva España" by Francisco de Icaza is PG. 30. The autobiographies are
numbered sequentially. The SEQUENCE NUMBER for Pedro Pacho is 554.

Bill Figueroa

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DIEGO TEMINO DE VELASCO

Bill,

What page was that? Thanks,

Esther
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Esther A. Herold

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Thank you Bill!
I am a little side tracked with some work so I have to wait at least a week before I start up my search again.

Sofia
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Hi Bill,
It would be great if you could see the actual documents or their microfilms where you think they are abbreviating "Pacheco" as"Pacho". Many times when abbreviating a word or name, they would wrtie the last letter or the last few letters of the abbreviated form as what we call "superscipt" on Micorsoft's World. I've seen this many times when abbreviating "Don" as "Dn", "Doña" as "Dna", "Villarreal" as "Villarrl", "Maria" as "Ma" etc. although not always, as when abbreviating "Joseph" as "Jph" .
Usually these superscript are ahown as plain text in printed transcriptions, especially older ones.
I think if you find an original document showing "Pacho" with the fnal "o" as superscript, you can bet it is an abbreviation for something else, probably "Pacheco" as you think.
Regards,
VN

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I have no doubt the Temiño de Velasco, are related to this family. It seems all Velascos are related to the Dukes. Since Diego was the mayor, he might have dropeed this lineage name for
the place where he was at Temiño, his house name would have been Velasco. I still dont fint this how is he related to Bernardino? a Child or grandchild. -Daniel
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*ALCOCER*, Doña Francisca de

Madre de Baltasar Temiño de Bañuelos, Alonso de Velasco, Diego de Temiño
y Doña Francisca de Velasco, mujer de Francisco Cornejo. Doña Francisca
de Alcocer y su marido, Diego Temiño de Velasco, eran vecinos de
_Sevilla_. Pasó, el 13 de junio de 1538, con sus hijos varones, Alonso,
Diego y Baltasar, desde _España_ a _Cartagena_ a reunirse con su esposo
e hijas. Difunta en 1589 (Palomino y Cañedo, 1972: 75, 220 y 232).

alvaradj@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Esther, Sofia and Bill,
> i have followed with interest the exchange about Diego Temino de Velasco and relatives, particularly since mi maternal line (Nuevo Leon and Coahuila) descends directly from Diego Treviño and Beatriz Quintanilla. Based on the evidence presented so far, I am inclined to think that Diego Treviño (perhaps the same as the Diego Velazco de Treviño who travelled in 1538 with his mother Francisca Alcocer and brothers Alonso de Velazco and Baltazar Velazco -all listed as sons of Velazco

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