Who are the people that you are looking for? I suppose that a lot of us are searching in Spain and you may be looking for someone that we have already found.
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I'm thrilled to hear that group members have been successful researching in Europe. Therefore, this goes out again to anyone in the group that has made the successful jump in research from Mexico back to Spain with verifiable documentation.
At this point in time, I have three ancestors whose 1700's Mx records indicate they are from Spain, and my search has ended there. They are Juan Fermin Santelices from Santander, Domingo Antonio Rubio from Sevilla, and Juan Martin Arrambide y Arse, Spain.
I have two sets of parents: Tomas Santelices and Ma Antonia Ibanez and Juan Rubio and Magdelena Godoy.
Using PARES, I can find a Juan Santelices, Antonio Rubio,etc. in the right time frame and the right place in Spain, but based on my previous research in Mx, there are always contemporaries with the same names. So the question is how do you know that these are the ancestors you are looking for and not some one else with the same name, as always occurs?
Aside from IGI Spain, which is very
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Alice,
I found something that may be useful. Using www.geneanet I found a Martin
Arrambide y Arza married to Antonia Glz. There is a person that lives in
France that has an email address referencing Zacatecas. You should contact
her. That entry also let me know there is a possible change of spelling for
Arse. At http://snae.org/CRIS/busqueda.es.php I found a marriage between
Miguel Arrambide and Virgida Yarza 1735-07-25 in Pasaia, Gipuzkoa, País
Vasco. http://snae.org/CRIS/ficha.es.php?id=178974&s=matrimonio They could
be the parents of Martín. I also found a baptism for a child of the previous
couple. Her name was Maria Rosa Arrambide Yarza baptized 1736-05-24.
http://snae.org/CRIS/ficha.es.php?id=764980&s=bautismo She could be a sister
to Martín. If that info coincides with anything you have and you can't get
copies at the FHC you can order them at http://mendezmende.org/es/partidas/
Arrambide is a very uncommon Basque surname native to Navarra which,
although of a Basque culture
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Hello Armando,
You've got the right Martin Arrambide. As you will see, I have been working all possible leads, so I'm not looking for an easy way out, just some good direction.
I had the info that he married Juana Ma Antonia Gonzales on 11/22/1762 in Salinas Victoria, Nvo Leon. Unfortunately, his parents weren't named as he was widowed by Phelipa De Fuentes. A marriage entry 11/05/1759 for a Ma Isabel de Arrambide y Arsa, claiming Martin de Arrambide y Arza as father, and mother Ma Phelipa de la Fuente (defuncta). His death/burial record of 11/16/1776 states he had been married four times. It's interesting you mention France, because on that burial entry, he is not called "Espanol", but "Europeo". I would think that if he were a Spaniard, it would have said de Castilla or something to that effect, like my other ancestors.
The plot thickens: I found a 10/30/1749 marriage entry for Ana Phelipa Fuentes (3rd wife's name) to a Manuel Antonio Asque y Garcia in Mx DF. I don't
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Alice,
I was sure you were already researching as much as possible and not looking
for and easy way out. Let me clarify the statement I made about the person
in France. She is most likely originally from Zacatecas based on her email
address but she lives in France. Her name is Monica Medina. Since she lives
in France and she isn't that far from Spain she might be able to go and do
some research for you since she is already researching that surname or maybe
she can find someone that can. Did your Martín have a son with the same name
that married a Felipa San Miguel? If so that is more info that connects your
Martín to Monica's, apart from the marriage. The info she entered about that
couple is at
http://gw4.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=mona26&lang=en;pz=xx;nz=ontiveros+…
her contact info is there also.
Other than what you already have and what I have suggested I have no idea
how you could connect the dots, we need someone else to answer that
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Good Evening Armando,
You've been absolutely wonderful! I'm pretty new to genealogy and didn't know the geneanet site. I've joined and already sent an email to Monica, as her Martin Arrambide y Arze is the same as mine because the wife she lists on geneanet is also my 6th grgrandmother--his fourth and final wife (probably only because she outlived him!). I sincerely hope she responds as soon as possible. Again, thank you so much for your help. Alice
--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Armando wrote:
From: Armando
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Searching for ancestors in Spain
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 12:30 AM
Alice,
I was sure you were already researching as much as possible and not looking
for and easy way out. Let me clarify the statement I made about the person
in France. She is most likely originally from Zacatecas based on her email
address but she lives in France. Her name is Monica Medina. Since she lives
in France and she isn't that far
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Hello Alice,
That is great news. She also posted at the following site -
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.arrambide/2/mb.ashx
Hopefully you can find something that has the names of the parents of Martin
and/or a birthdate or age. Have you read all of his marriage records and all
of his childrens records? I redid a search of SNAE using only &bide as a
surname and in increments of 20 yrs from 1700 and on. The & makes it search
any surname that ends with bide. This is something that would be useful for
FamilySearch if they could include a wildcard search like that. Anyway, I
found a Nicolas Martin Arambide Arçe baptized 1701-05-23 in Pasaia,
Gipuzkoa. http://snae.org/CRIS/ficha.es.php?id=787974&s=bautismo Notice that
Arçe might be what is being interpreted or transcribed as Asque
Armando
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
> Good Evening Armando,
> You've been absolutely wonderful! I'm pretty new to genealogy and didn't
> know the geneanet site. I've joined and
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This is just to correct a portion of what I wrote. The wildcard is % and not
& for SNAE
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Armando wrote:
> Hello Alice,
>
> That is great news. She also posted at the following site -
> http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.arrambide/2/mb.ashx
> Hopefully you can find something that has the names of the parents of
> Martin and/or a birthdate or age. Have you read all of his marriage records
> and all of his childrens records? I redid a search of SNAE using only &bide
> as a surname and in increments of 20 yrs from 1700 and on. The & makes it
> search any surname that ends with bide. This is something that would be
> useful for FamilySearch if they could include a wildcard search like that.
> Anyway, I found a Nicolas Martin Arambide Arçe baptized 1701-05-23 in
> Pasaia, Gipuzkoa. http://snae.org/CRIS/ficha.es.php?id=787974&s=bautismo Notice
> that Arçe might be what is being interpreted or transcribed as Asque
>
> Armando
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:48
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Armando,
This Nicolas Martin Arrambide Arce could be the person I'm looking for, or his brother. For one thing, his father was Joseph Feliz. My Martin Arrambide y Arze had a son by either his first or second wife, Quiteria De Los Santos, named Joseph Felis Arrambide. I haven't identified one of the four wives. If, if I were to find that his missing wife's name was Maria Josepha Ebora on another child's baptismal entry, would that be sufficient to conclude that this is the same person? Or would that only be speculation without any marriage entry for the parents?
I emailed Monica and another person researching Arrambides through Ancestry.com, too. I'm trying to put out as many feelers as possible. Thanks so much, Alice
--- On Mon, 7/26/10, Armando wrote:
From: Armando
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Searching for ancestors in Spain
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 3:03 PM
This is just to correct a portion of what I wrote. The wildcard is %
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Im not sure if this was directed to me? I was just saying that
im a descendant of the Sanchez de Tagle, Altamirano de Castilla
and Colon de Larreategui. These lines were a bit hard to follow
and took so much work to document everything! They also moved
a lot, especially my Perez de Camino that traveled
New Spain and Mexico almost frequently.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:49:26 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Searching for ancestors in Spain
>
> Who are the people that you are looking for? I suppose that a lot of us are searching in Spain and you may be looking for someone that we have already found.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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Searching for ancestors in Spain