Lorenso De Miramontes and Maria De Santiago had a son, Ysidro De Miramontes who married Bernarda De Avila 21 Jan 1709. Brigida De Miramontes who married Rafael Pinto De Avila 23 Jan 1735 was the padrina. This is my Avila connection to the Miramontes family and I wonder if anyone can provide information or assist me. Thank you. Evie

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I have never EVER received a response to a query so this is quite exciting. However, I have little to share. Bernarda Avila's parents are Juan De Avila and Francisca De Lerma who are also the parents of Juan Avila who married Josepha Ximenez. One roadblock after another - always. I cannot even locate Francisca's parents. Barnarda was married to Ysidro De Miramontes and his father was Lorenso who was married to Maria De Santiago. What is Brigida's relationship?

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:04:19 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miramontes connection
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> I have both Lorenzo and Brigida Miramontes.
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> e-mail me josecarlos1944@hotmail.com so that we can share info
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> Jose Carlos de Leon

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Brigida Miramontes parents are Lorenzo miramontes and Maria Ana Diaz de Santiago. She was born abt 1675 to 1680. She married Francisco de Raigoza and had a son Jose Raigoza in 1703. Francisco died abt 1703 and Brigida remarried in 1704 to an "X Miramontes" (who I suspect the marriage record was in error) because there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the "X" was really Xtopal Gonzales. It is not unusual for Church records to contain these kind of errors (I've seen hundreds of such gross errors.
However you are mistaken in Brigida's husband being Rafael Pinto De Avila.
In 1735 Rafael Pinto De Avila married Maria Gonsales Miramonttes daughter of a Brigida Miramontes and Xtopal/Cristobal Gonzales.

e-mail me cuz I have other children for Lorenzo,

Jose Carlos de Leon

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her marriage record with "X Miramontes" 02 Jul 1704 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma records her parents The record image :
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30836442/person/26063914583/mediax/8c7ce…

the IGI
Name X. De Miramontes Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Brigida De Miramontes Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 02 Jul 1704 Event Place Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,Zacatecas,Mexico Father's Name Mother's Name Spouse's Father's Name Lorenzo De Miramontes Spouse's Mother's Name Ana De Santiago Race Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Race Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Indexing Project (Batch) Number M60713-9 System Origin Mexico-ODM GS Film number 443968

The "X Miramontes" is probably a gross error; I'm 90% sure it is Xptobal Gonzales because of his daughter Maria's baptism in 02 Oct 1707 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma to which Evie refers to Maria Gonzales's

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my connection to him is that his great granddaughter Petra Regalada Raigoza married my 5th great granduncle Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga in 19 Feb 1753 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico.

My primo Joseph Puentes reccomends that I should share with Nuestros Ranchos my Lorenzo Miramontes data, this is what I have found so far:

1 Lorenzo de Miramontes b: 26 JUL 1638
+ Maria Ana Diaz de Santiago b: MAR 1649
2 Margarita Miramontes b: SEP 1670
2 Miguel Miramontes b: FEB 1696
2 Getrudis Miramontes b: JUN 1692
2 Brigida de Miramontes b: ABT 1675
+ Francisco de Raigoza b: ABT 1675 d: BEF 1704
3 Jose Cayetano Raigoza b: JAN 1703
+ Catarina Sandoval b: ABT 1703
4 Petra Regalada Raigoza b: ABT 1733
+ Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga b: MAY 1720
5 Francisca Romana Mayorga b: MAR 1757
5 Maria De Jesus Mayorga b: MAY 1769
5 Jose Maria Mayorga b: JUL 1763
5 Antonia Lugarda

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This dispensa connects Cristobal Gonzalez to Cecilia Sandoval daughter of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval and Catalina Cortes..

Rafael Pinto de Avila m. Maria Gertrudis Gonzalez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-65PB-C?i=219&wc=125127…

It also places Rosa Maria (Maria de la Rosa) Plascencia m. Marcos Pinto de Avila as a daughter of Pedro Plascencia Maldonado and Melchora de los Reyes Moscoso y Sandoval

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i wonder if your juan de avila also went by the name first name onofre. you see one of my acestors had a brother named onofre, who was married to a francisca lerma