Hello Steve,
You are right again, it is through my descendancy through Regina Villasenor y Cuevas. Though the marriage was in Aguascalientes, the marriage dispensation is in Guadalajara. When I found it, I would go back to it often because I was so thrilled to see what I had been looking many, many years. The diagram was a great find because it showed how they descended from two half siblings, from 2 different marriages, same father. The diagram is image 466 (1787 FHL source film 168072 Mexico)(Marriage dispensations Guadalajara)

Regina was married on 2feb 1689, La Barca Jalisco to Miguel Gonzalez de Hermosillo.

Diego Villasenor + Gertrudis de Cuevas
Francisco Villasenor (c. 1640 m1662) Maria Lomelin (1644)
Regina Villasenor Cuevas Lomelin (m2Feb1689) + Miguel Gonzalez de Hermosillo
I believe that francisco Villasenor and Maria Lomelin are related through the Villasenor Orosco and that she is the granddaughter of Luis LOMELI AND Maria de olmos. I am still gathering information

Hello Steve,
One thing to remember when searching for information about people in the Los altos de Jalisco in 1600 and 1700 s is that many of them practiced a tradition started with some Italian Jews of naming their children with their grandparents names, including surnames. Look for Isabel with a different last name. Check out their descendents for any clues as to a possible last name. You already know about this but we sometimes need reminders.
A couple of years ago I was reminded by Daniel Mendez that the h and f were interchangeable in these centuries. Even though I already knew this information, I had overlooked some key data because I did not keep this on my mind at times when working on a couple Of lines. I immediately went back over my info and found an important baptismal certificate. I then was also able to solve another puzzle that I had been working on for a long time.

The practice of naming children after grandparents and great grandparents was found in certain

Dear Steve,

Even though Jose De la torre and Isabel Benavides are named as vecinos de Tepatitlan, I wouldn't be surprised if they were were born in Teocaltiche or Nochistlan Zacatecas as that is when many families migrated from that area to los altos de Jalisco. I have ancestors from those locations that moved to tepa and Jalos. The ones that went to Jalos were easier to trace back to Teocaltiche and Nochistlan because they added more information in their records. The ones that went to tepa were harder as sometimes they were more inconsistent as to providing this info. Since tepa and Jalisco weren't so far apart you could sometimes find the information recorded twice in both locations, with the Jalos record providing extra data. For example, my maternal grandfather came from families from the Jalos /San Miguel el alto area but he was born between Tepa and Jalos, much closer to Tepa, and the ranch was recognized as being under tepatitlan jurisdiction. His baptismal record is found