Does anybody know if the Origin of the Perez-Gallo family line in Los altos de Jalisco comes from Antonio Perez Temblador and Micala (Miicaela?) Gallo?
Josepha Maria Peres Gallo
Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Josepha Maria Peres Gallo
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jul 1691
Christening Place: SAGRARIO METROPOLITANO, GUADALAJARA, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name: Antonio Peres Temblador
Mother's Name: Micala Gallo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60314-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 38315
Thanks,
R A Ricci
That particular Juan Pérez Gallo and his wife Doña Ángela de Orozco are my 12th great grandparents. I'm familiar with his children and their children, but I don't have any further information on him or who his parents are. His wife Doña Ángela de Orozco y Velasco is the natural born daughter of Francisco de Orozco(the son of Gerónimo de Orozco and Ángela de Velasco) and Catalina de Arriola. There's a couple of dispensas that mention the Pérez Gallo in Montejano Hilton's Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara.' But, neither show anything further for the Pérez Gallo line or for Juan Pérez Gallo. You can view the two dispensas that mention Pérez Gallo below. The first one is a Dispensa de cuarto grado de afinidad por cópula lícita and mentions the widow of Francisco de Tejeda Villaseñor, Doña María Pérez Gallo, (daughter of Juan Pérez Gallo and Doña Ángela de Orozco y Velasco). The other mentions Onofre Joseph Pérez Gallo, (grandson of Juan Pérez Gallo and Doña Ángela de Orozco y Velasco and the
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Hello Christopher,
I descend from Onofre Joseph Perez Gallo (born 1712 Teocaltiche). I was stuck at his parents Jose Perez Gallo and Maria Alvarez de Nava I had copied Jaime Holcombes work on his wife Ana Fernandez de Rueda (Angela) but yesterday I found conflicting information on Ana "Angela" and will review why Jaime Holcombe provides different parents than the document that I found yesterday.
I was stuck on Onofre's parents and had only had his mother as Maria Nava when I discovered yesterday that she was also known as Maria Alvarez de Nava. You state that Onofre is the grandson of Juan Perez Gallo and Angela de. Orosco y Velasco. Then I am assuming that Jose Perez Gallo is the son of Juan Perez Gallo And Angela de Orosco y Velasco. I am confused by your statements on Francisco Orosco and Geronimo Orosco. I descend from Licenciado Francisco Tello de Orosco ( born circa 1556 ciudad de Mexico )and Ana de Carbajal y Ulloa. I have this Francisco as a son of Doctor Geronimo Orosco
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On the IM of his third marriage to Manuela Reynoso, he is listed as the legitimate son of Don Joseph Pérez Gallo and Doña María de la Nava Álvarez Tostado:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18450-18804-27?cc=1874591&wc…
Onofre Joseph Pérez Gallo's father Don Joseph Pérez Gallo was born in March 1685 and baptized in Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco on 18 Mar 1685 and is the legitimate son of Juan Pérez Gallo and Ángela de Orozco y Velasco. Ángela de Orozco y Velasco is the natural born daughter of Francisco de Orozco and Catalina de Arriola. Francisco de Orozco was the son of Gerónimo de Orozco and Ángela de Velasco, that's where the Velasco comes from. This Ángela de Velasco was the daughter of Juan Ramírez de la Campaña and Francisca Temiño de Velasco. Francisca Temiño de Velasco was the daughter of Diego Flores de la Torre and Ángela de Velasco.
According to Jaime Holcombe, Gerónimo de Orozco that was married
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Hello Christopher,
You saved me a lot of time and work. I was going to track down Jaime Holcombes family worksheets just to find his information on the Perez Temblador family. Many years ago I spent a lot of time going over his family group sheets. His work is so vast that it would take me. A long time to go throw all of the films. Not only that, but it was the wrong path to take.
A dispensation provides information that Lucas Alvarez Tostado Nava is the brother of Maria Nava (Maria Alvarez Tostado) if this dispensation is correct then that makes Maria Nava the daughter of Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado Nava and Juana Delgadillo (Islas)
I assume that Alberto is the son of Juan Bautista Orosco.
Juan Bautista is the only brother that came over that I know of. I will do more research. I just found another Jaime Holcomb mistake yesterday so it is important to check his work even though he compiled a tremendous amount of accurate data
Thanks again,
Rick A Ricci
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Rick, you may already have this record: Joseph Perez Gallo's death records from 1741 listing his brother in law as "Lorenzo" - Maria Nava Alvarez Tostado's brother. Would you share the dispensation you have listing Maria Nava Alvares Tostado's brother as "Lucas" Alvares Tostado? I know Lorenzo and Lucas are brothers according to Family Search files.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19050-27078-94?cc=1874591&wc…
Thank you
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Does anyone have a link to the marriage record of Lucas Alvarez and Polonia Fernández from 4 May 1727 in Jalostotitlán film 279295?
I was able to find the record of his second marriage in the same film from 31 August 1729 at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-44-50
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Las siguiente dispensas comprueban que Lorenzo, Juan, Francisco, y Antonio fueron hermanos. También comprueban que Ana Ramírez, Isabel Ramírez y Mariana Ramírez fueron hermanas hijas de Joseph Ramírez de Mendoza cc Ana Muñoz de Hermosillo
Felipe Jiménez Álvarez cc María Ana Álvarez Tostado y Romo
Dispensa 168038
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-81257-14
Tronco 1 - Lorenzo Álvarez Tostado cc María Francisca de Nava Cuevas (tiene el nombre correcto de María de Nava)
Tronco 2 - Joseph Ramírez de Mendoza cc Ana Muñoz de Hermosillo
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-81285-42
Juan Ramírez Enríquez cc Isabel Javiera Delgadillo y Álvarez Tostado
Dispensa 168117 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-19812-2
Tronco 1 - Lorenzo Álvarez Tostado cc María Francisca de Nava Cuevas
"parentesco de consanguinidad en tercer grado en dos partes por ser ambos nietos de dos hermanos que lo fueron Francisco y Juan Álvarez Tostado de los cuales Francisco casó
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Jaime Holcombe did some work on the Perez temblador family. I did not copy these sheets because I did not see a connection to my family. I suspect that they may be the origin of the Perez Gallo family from Los altos de Jalisco. Does anybody have copies of Jaime Holcombes family sheets on this family? Does anyone know the film and batch numbers to these sheets so I can look them up?
Thanks,
R A Ricci
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Juan Pérez Gallo and Ángela de Orozco were already having children in Teocaltiche and Ayo El Chico in the 1670s:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18685-56587-84?cc=1874591&wc…
That would likely place Juan Pérez Gallo's birth around the 1650s. His parents would most likely have been born around the 1630s. Therefore, the couple baptizing a child in 1691 would be the unlikely origin of the Pérez Gallo.
Christopher de Cuéllar
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Thanks Christopher. Do you have any other information on this Juan Perez Gallo?
Thanks again,
R A Ricci
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Juan Pérez Gallo and Ángela de Orozco were already having children in Teocaltiche and Ayo El Chico in the 1670s:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18685-56587-84?cc=1874591&wc…
That would likely place Juan Pérez Gallo's birth around the 1650s. His parents would most likely have been born around the 1630s. Therefore, the couple baptizing a child in 1691 would be the unlikely origin of the Pérez Gallo.
Christopher de Cuéllar
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Origin of the Perez-Gallo family line in Los altos de Jalisco