Hello Steve,
I jumped three feet in the air when I read that you wrote :
" I want to step in and present what I
> have collected on certain Alteño branches and additional lines NOT in
> Retoños such as Aldana, Barajas, Gutiérrez de Híjar, Hernández Gamiño,
> Marentes de Otadui y Avendaño, Nuño Rasura de Laín Calvo, Ornelas,
> Sánchez de Mendoza, Vital-Ibarra de Anguiano, and few others. "
I have worked on some of these families myself. I was disappointed when I did not find these lines in Mariano Gonzalez leal's books. My mother in laws great grandmother is Aldana, and she has Vital-Ibarra and Hernandez gamino also from arandas and Ayo el Chico. I also have done some work on the Marentes lines in Jalos and Tepa.
Have you done any work on Suazo and Carmona lines?
Good luck on your research.
Rick A Ricci
Well I hope you are not holding your breath, as my first of several books is still a few years away unfortunately. But when they are ready for publication, there will be announcements.
I have members of the Suazo y Carmona family members in my records, but I am not a Suazo y Carmona by blood. Since I do not descend from them I am guilty as charged of not caring about lines that are not my own. They marry into a few of my lines from Tepatitlán, primarily Alvarez de la Cruz, Cortes, Velásquez, Estrada, Loza, and a few others. I have more info on these families that the Suazos married into.
I have investigated the Suazos as far as I was capable, but not with the same relentless passion and diligence that I endeavor in my own lines, so I have not really continued at all.
And the short list I compiled of family names missing from Retoños, I mentioned Hernández Gamiño, Marentes de Otadui y Avendaño, Ornelas, & Sánchez de Mendoza. All these have chapters in Retoños, but I have
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Dear Steve,
My mother in law was born in San Miguel el Alto
My mother in law descends from Cecilio Rocha (Madrid de la Rocha) and Petronila (Petra) Aldana
Cecilio Rocha married numerous times and he is the son of Jose Damasio de G. Madrid de la Rocha, and Maria Viviana Hernandez Ibarra (Alias Vital)
Jose Damacio de G. Madrid de la Rochais the son of Jose FranciscoMadrid de la Rocha aand Maria Lucrecia Vasquez
Jose Francisco Madrid de la Rocha is the son of Josef Andres Madrid de la Rocha
Maria Viviana Hernandez is the daughter of Domingo Hernandez Gamino and Maria Gertrudis Elias Ibarra y Plasencia
Domingo is the son of Agustin Hernandez Gamino and Maria Josefa Llamas Sanchez
Agustin Hernandez Gamino is the son of Juan Ignacio Hernandez Gamino and Juana Catarina Magana Hernandez Gamino
Juan Ignacio is the son of Miguel Hernandez Gamino and Manuela Maciel
Maria Josefa is the daughter of Nicolas Eupracio Llamas Hernandez and Anna Maria Sanchez
Maria Gertrude's Elias Ibarra
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Just thought of two more surnames not in Retoños...Martel de Villegas and Olmos. These have interesting histories.
I'll comment later on your line of Hernández Gamiño and Vital-Ibarra, but suffice it to say that Domingo Hernández Gamiño and Maria Gertrudis Vital-Ibarra are my tios. Their parents are my ancestors. I have lots on them.
However, don't have detailed info on the other lines. Except Velasquez though. I connect there.
SFHL
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I am not a Suazo y Carmona, but I am VITAL