Good Afternoon Community Members,
One of the reasons I joined this community recently is to improve the way I perform my research, which I am happy to say has improved since I joined. Yet, I still have questions which might be answered by the collective wisdom of the community. Some of these may have been asked and already asnwered, but I ask in ignornace.
Here are my questions:
In researching christening records, I have noticed the occasional listing with only a mother's name listed/captured. I would think this is obviously a situation where a child is being born out of wedlock or some other related situation. However, I noticed yesterday, the same mother had 3 different kids over a period of 7 or 8 years with no father named (No relation to me).
Is there something else at work here or is it just a situation where a woman is having children out of wedlock? Is there something else we can gleam from seeing this trend? Thoughts/Opinions???
In working with the familysearch.org website, I have noticed lots of indexes where a film number is captured, but no image is available.
Does this mean the image is available through some other resource, such as through one of the LDS Family Research centers?
What is the relative research value of familysearch.org vs. an LDS Family Research Center? Is more information/resources available though one of the research centers vs the website?
Thank you, in advance, for your thoughts and input.
Fantastic I love that area and Library. I know exactly where that is at. The Popol Vuh is housed there and I can usually find parking on the street.
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Gloria/Manny/George,
Thank you for the help and guidance.
From the guidance on how to directly access films, it has already paid huge rewards. I was able to track down my maternal grandmother's baptism record, with all of its rich information, in just an hour or so. I spent most of the past year messing with indexes and thinking it was simply not there...it was, I just needed to know how to access it. There have been other 'gems' discovered.....
Also, I have a new appreciation for both the church baptism record and the Civil registry for births. Before this week, I was essentially ignoring the civil registries, but now it has become a very good compliment to the baptism record...(in some cases, they are easier to read...helpful for a mexican american, such as myself, who has limited spanish language skills.
And for the information on the LDS Family Research Centers, thank you for helping me understand how they can supplement my 'online' research...There is one located not
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Thanks 4 asking the question and thanks for the response as I did not know how it worked. I tried contacting several ctrs here in Chicago but no one answers the phone to ask questions.
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Hi Simona,
If you live in Chicago, then I would highly recommend visiting the Newberry Library. Becoming a researcher is both free and easy. They function as a FHC, but have all the resources of a large research library. They also have a relatively impressive collection of books and manuscripts of Mexican/Spanish genealogy, including some rare books about Nueva Galicia. I spent many hours there in the last few years while living in Chicago.
If you have additional questions, let me know.
Hope this helps!
Sergio
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I am a volunteer at a Family History Center.
A FHC will have a number of computers, may have a film scanner/printer, and microfilm readers. The centers will also have a numbers of films that patrons have borrowed -- either short term or long term loan, and some on permanent loan. There will also be a library of genealogical resources. The resources at any FHC will vary; FHCs associated with LDS temples will generally many more resources than those with the wards or stakes.
The computers at the FHCs have access to what are referred to as "premium websites." These are generally subscription websites, such as the institutional version of Ancestry.com. These resources emphasize American and British resources. The are no Mexico or Spain specific resources among this group. Ancestry.com has some digitized sources that are not presently available at Family Search, such as all the US census images. Ancestry,com also has a good collection of Mexico to US border crossing records. By
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Hello Arthur,
I have an ancestor who was an hijo natural of a Mestiza woman, who had 6 hijos naturales over a period of time; at least 2 of the children were legitimized by their Spanish father, and I imagine the other children were fathered by the same man (he married a Spanish woman, 8 months before the birth of her last child...). My ancestors probably didn't marry, because of a difference in castes/class.
Another couple I descend from - Andres Diaz de Leon and Dionicia Duron, from Sierra de Pinos - had 6 children before they married (on their IM, one of the reasons they give for marrying, is to legitimize their children). Their children were probably baptized as "hijos de padres no conocidos." I've seen cases of children born of unknown parents, and after the parents wedded, the entry is annotated in the margin, naming the parents: right image bottom, entry for Maria Magdalena:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11678-30016-9?cc=1502404&w…
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I take it that the baptismal records were not separated into Baustismos de hijos legitimos and Bautismos de hijos naturales:the record itself did not state that the father is unknown or the child the "natural" child of ... If there are corresponding Civil Registration records then you could check those. I have two civil registration records where the children were registered by the great grandmother with no mention of the birth mother. The names of the children, the great grandmother, place and time all correspond to oral family history.
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Newberry Library in Chicago