Hello my name is Rosario Tiscareño. I am very happy to be part of this group. My paternal family is from Aguascalientes. My great grandfather was Encarnación Tiscareño married to Ma Natividad Tirado. My grandfather was Julio Tiscareño though I have come across his name spelled Julian . He was married to Natalia Rodriguez. My father was José Ines Tiscareño. I hope to be able contribute to this site and learn more as I go. Thank you .
Welcome. I have been mapping out the Tiscarenos, Rodriguez, Contreras for the last year. If you go to www.Familysearch.org and look up the following ID L6V7-36Z for encarnacion you will find Encarnacion Tiscareno to Captain Juan Tiscareno de Molina in the 1600. After that the records on Familysearch become murky because many people add their knowledge of the these famous people and many do not agree on who belongs to whom.
There are a few snags that need to be cleared because in the 1730 there are several Antonio's, records that don't match with a deceased parent and possibly two same name women married to different name husbands during the same period who the husbands are married to two sisters and one who had 3 wives etc. There needs more research and there are records for Encarnacion to be merged.
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Sarod,
how do you look up that ID? where do you put that number, I've never known
how to look up ID on family search.
Danny C. Alonso
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM, wrote:
> Welcome. I have been mapping out the Tiscarenos, Rodriguez, Contreras for
> the
> last year. If you go to www.Familysearch.org and look up the following ID
> L6V7-36Z for encarnacion you will find Encarnacion Tiscareno to Captain
> Juan Tiscareno de Molina in the 1600. After that the records on
> Familysearch
> become murky because many people add their knowledge of the these famous
> people and many do not agree on who belongs to whom. There are a few snags
> that need to be cleared because in the 1730 there are several Antonio's,
> records that don't match with a deceased parent and possibly two same name
> women married to different name husbands during the same period who the
> husbands are married to two sisters and one who had 3 wives etc. There
> needs
> more research and there are records for
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Each person gets an ID when created and you can locate a person with their name enter in the Find or enter an ID which is more precise because familysearch will not always give all names or even the same search of people.
Step 1. Sign into www.Familysearch.org you will see the home page with choices
Step 2. The choices are Family Tree Menu Search Indexing
(CLICK Family Tree)
Step 3. A drop down menu will appear after clicking on Family Tree title and choose
FIND
Step 4. The FIND feature will go to default of searching by NAME, next to it is FIND BY ID
Step 5. Enter the 7 digit number as it appears L6V7-36Z
Step 6. CLICK FIND
Step 7. Encarnacion Tiscareno will appear. hover over with your mouse to the name and
CLICK
Step 8. A new window will appear with the person's profile click on the name and your at the complete profile and family/resources
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Thank you Sarod. I wasn't aware that you were able to search that way.
Danny C. Alonso
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:45 PM, wrote:
> Each person gets an ID when created and you can locate a person with their
> name enter in the Find or enter an ID which is more precise because
> familysearch will not always give all names or even the same search of
> people. Step 1. Sign into www.Familysearch.org you will see the home page
> with choices Step 2. The choices are Family Tree Menu Search Indexing
> (CLICK
> Family Tree) Step 3. A drop down menu will appear after clicking on Family
> Tree title and choose FIND Step 4. The FIND feature will go to default of
> searching by NAME, next to it is FIND BY ID Step 5. Enter the 7 digit
> number
> as it appears L6V7-36Z Step 6. CLICK FIND Step 7. Encarnacion Tiscareno
> will
> appear. hover over with your mouse to the name and CLICK Step 8. A new
> window
> will appear with the person's profile click on the name and your at the
> complete profile
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Thank you Sarod. I wasn't aware that you were able to search that way.
Danny C. Alonso
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:45 PM, wrote:
> Each person gets an ID when created and you can locate a person with their
> name enter in the Find or enter an ID which is more precise because
> familysearch will not always give all names or even the same search of
> people. Step 1. Sign into www.Familysearch.org you will see the home page
> with choices Step 2. The choices are Family Tree Menu Search Indexing
> (CLICK
> Family Tree) Step 3. A drop down menu will appear after clicking on Family
> Tree title and choose FIND Step 4. The FIND feature will go to default of
> searching by NAME, next to it is FIND BY ID Step 5. Enter the 7 digit
> number
> as it appears L6V7-36Z Step 6. CLICK FIND Step 7. Encarnacion Tiscareno
> will
> appear. hover over with your mouse to the name and CLICK Step 8. A new
> window
> will appear with the person's profile click on the name and your at the
> complete profile
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Can you upload a sample page showing where this ID # appears?
Thanks,
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: sarod77@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:45:43 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familysearch using ID number
>
> Each person gets an ID when created and you can locate a person with their
> name enter in the Find or enter an ID which is more precise because
> familysearch will not always give all names or even the same search of
> people. Step 1. Sign into www.Familysearch.org you will see the home page
> with choices Step 2. The choices are Family Tree Menu Search Indexing (CLICK
> Family Tree) Step 3. A drop down menu will appear after clicking on Family
> Tree title and choose FIND Step 4. The FIND feature will go to default of
> searching by NAME, next to it is FIND BY ID Step 5. Enter the 7 digit number
> as it appears L6V7-36Z Step 6. CLICK FIND Step 7. Encarnacion Tiscareno will
> appear. hover over with your mouse to the
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Thank you for the share the Tree is great. My grandfather Julio dba Julian was child of Encarnacion and he married Natalia Rodriguez child of Ynes Rodriguez and Ma Cleofas Duron. I have located info on the both of them but have not been able to locate a birth certificate for my grandmother Natalia. Thank you again!!!
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Rosario,
Im not familiar with the actual people you mentioned but I have several
ancestors with the same last names so your ancestors and my ancestors are
proably connected at some point. I checked to see if your ancestors are on
the Wikitree, but they're not. although I can add them if you want and see
where they connect to mine. i was wondering if you know how to use
familysearch.org to look up your ancestors? cause I checked and your
ancestors are there, I think you shoud be able to go back several
generations. If you look up your great grandparents Encarnacion Tiscareño
and Maria Natividad Tirado on https://familysearch.org/search/ you'll see
that Encarnacion Tiscareno and Maria Natividad Tirado were married on
October 30, 1869.
To find the marriage record may take a little time the firs time you look,
but it gets easier. it probably helps if you can read cursive which I
couldn't at first, but now I can. my mom said they used to teach it in
school but we never really learned it
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This is Sylvia, we were discussing de la Cerda.
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Sylvia A. Robles Cell# 951-536-3094
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 6:02 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> Rosario,
>
> Im not familiar with the actual people you mentioned but I have several
> ancestors with the same last names so your ancestors and my ancestors are
> proably connected at some point. I checked to see if your ancestors are on
> the Wikitree, but they're not. although I can add them if you want and see
> where they connect to mine. i was wondering if you know how to use
> familysearch.org to look up your ancestors? cause I checked and your
> ancestors are there, I think you shoud be able to go back several
> generations. If you look up your great grandparents Encarnacion Tiscareño
> and Maria Natividad Tirado on https://familysearch.org/search/ you'll see
> that Encarnacion Tiscareno and Maria Natividad Tirado were married on
> October 30, 1869.
>
>
> To find the marriage record may take a little time the firs
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Danny
Thank you for all the information and yes I have used family search but the way you explained it has helped me understand more on how to use it. I wanted to share with you that my grandfather Julio Tiscareno had another sister named Apolonia Tiscareno and three of his daughters are living, two of my aunts reside in Aguascalientes. I am trying to obtain more information from my aunt and learn the history she knows. I am also researching the Amerindian line that is in the family.
It is fine if you want to add my ancestors to your wiki tree and perhaps we will discover how we are connected. Thank you again for your help.
Rosario
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Rosario,
I added your ancestors you mentioned onto the Wikitree. You linked in with
several of my relatives on the Tiscareño side. Here is the link:
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Tiscareño-Family-Tree-65
Just click on a name. I didn't get a chance to add all the siblings. The
sources are on the bottom, just click on the image number to see the actual
records.
Danny C. Alonso
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What's the advantage of posting tree on Wikitree?
Paul Gomez
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> On May 4, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> Rosario,
>
> I added your ancestors you mentioned onto the Wikitree. You linked in with
> several of my relatives on the Tiscareño side. Here is the link:
>
> http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Tiscareño-Family-Tree-65
>
> Just click on a name. I didn't get a chance to add all the siblings. The
> sources are on the bottom, just click on the image number to see the actual
> records.
>
> Danny C. Alonso
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What's the advantage of posting tree on Wikitree?
Paul Gomez
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 4, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> Rosario,
>
> I added your ancestors you mentioned onto the Wikitree. You linked in with
> several of my relatives on the Tiscareño side. Here is the link:
>
> http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Tiscareño-Family-Tree-65
>
> Just click on a name. I didn't get a chance to add all the siblings. The
> sources are on the bottom, just click on the image number to see the actual
> records.
>
> Danny C. Alonso
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Paul, there's several advantages to posting on the Wikitree. For me who's in high school, I don't have money for sites like Ancestry, but more important is because it's free anyone can see it without paying, unlike Ancestry and other sites. Plus it's shared by lots of people who contribute. So if your looking you'll see several different people that have added to the tree.
Danny C. Alonso
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Geneanet, which has both free and paid modes, has some of the better reporting features of the online genealogy software. You can generate ahnentafel and register reports in a number of formats/styles (the can be saved as PDFs files or copied to a word processor). It can generate simple ancestor tables/lists. It can generate both ancestor and descendant charts. A nice feature is that it will determine relationships between two different people, including when there are multiple relationships. A very nice feature is that it will also draw charts to show these relationships.
I had a free access to the paid (or premium) mode for a trial period and there are some very useful features here as well.
This is worth taking a look at.
George Fulton
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Geneanet is also free and it is leaner (less clutter) and it doesn't have ads like Wikitree does. Anyway, for your entry on Juan de Tiscareño http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Tiscare%C3%B1o-1 you can add María Gertrudis de Tiscareño y Chávez as his daughter. She was baptized 31 Aug 1715 and married around 17 Dec 1735 based in the Información Matrimonial indexed by George Fulton. The record is at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11757-68612-51?cc=1502404 It states that there was a dispensa de cuarto grado de consanguinidad. In the book San Gabriel Valley Families of Nueva Galicia by Rosanne Gonzales-Hardy she states that the dispensa was on 9 December 1735 and it mentions Franciso de Tiscareño, the father of Juan de Tiscareño, as the son of Juan Tiscareño and Isabel Romo de Vivar but Francisco is said to be an illegitimate child of Juan Tiscareño by Daniel Mendez at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17966?page=3 Francisco de Tiscareño married María González de Huerta before
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Armando,
Thank you, this is good information. I wasn't aware of this.
Danny C. Alonso
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Paul,
I use Geneanet for my family tree (direct ancestors only). I agree with Armando and George in that it is the best free online genealogy site. I also use Wikitree for its collaboration features. Its through Wikitree that I have met and worked with several fellow Nuestros Ranchos members to connect our family trees and find new ancestors. I've also had the pleasure of working with distant relatives who have roots in colonial California, New Mexico, Texas and other parts of Mexico. The best feature of Wikitree, in my opinion, is its DNA tools which provides users information to help with matching with other users who have added their DNA test types. The benefits of this feature will only get better as more users with ancestry in 'Los Altos' join and add their DNA test types. So if your interested please send me an email and I can get you started. By the way those pesky ads go away once you login.
Austin Perez
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/P%C3%A9rez-Family-Tree-224
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Danny
I just saw the wikitree and it looks great. My father was Jose Ines Tiscareno DOB 04/20/1929 born in Calvillo Ags, Mx and passed on 01/28/2007 in El Paso Texas. He was married to my mom Josefina de Anda daughter of Leobardo de Anda and Carmen Meza. Who on the tree is your close relative? I have a tree on Ancestry which I started years back but work has not permitted me too much time to do a lot of updates but I still work on it as much I can.
Thank you again
Rosario E Tiscareno
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Rosario,
I'll update the Wikitree with the new information that Armando provided and the information you gave me. I just guessed on when I thought your father was born based on the births of the other children.
Danny C. Alonso
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Rosario,
I added the people you mentioned yesterday. I didn't know when Josefina de Anda was born so I just guessed she was a little older than her husband based on her parents age, but not sure. about who was the closest relative, we dozens and dozens of the same ancestors, but most of them didn't connect until a few generations back.
Danny C. Alonso
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Danny,
My mother Josefina de Anda was born on 03/03/1916 and passed away on 07/23/1984 in El Paso, Texas. I spoke to one of my aunts in Aguascalientes, I asked her some questions, unfortunately she did not have too much information but did share that my grandfather Julio Tiscareno was part of Los Cristeros back in the 1920's. I did some research on it and it is an interesting part of Mexico's history.
I added a profile to wikitree but still have to learn how to use it.
Thank you again for adding my relatives.
Rosario
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On the day the treaty was brokered in 1929, Gen. Carlos Bouquet Carranza was killed returning from the peace treaty. His sister married degollado Huizar. If you read about this pair it will tell you one of the outcomes of this terrible war (1926-1929) The Mexican Revolution (1910-1920)
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Hello Danny, my paternal line contains the last names Tiscareno Tirado, Rodriguez Duron. So far I am up to my great grand parents Encarnacion Tiscareno who was married to my GGM Maria Natividad Tirado, Ynes Rodriguez married to Ma Cleofas Duron. My grandfather was Julio Tiscareno Tirado who was married to Natalia Rodriguez Duron. My family is from Aguascalientes and I still have two aunts and many cousins that live there. I try to research as much as I can when work allows. Do any of my relatives sound familiar to you? Thank you for the welcome.
Rosario E Tiscareno
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