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Wow, all these words make me feel at home! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alberto Duarte [mailto:albertodua@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:59 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling

My wife is from Los Altos, Jalisco, and she uses both words when she is mad.

Alberto.

--- John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in
> "como eres tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost
> like "como eres menso".  Tarugo, tarado, and menso are used in about 
> the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different times!
> 
> John
> 
> 1gnzlz@...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: latina1955@... 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
> 
> 
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was often called 
> because I was considered lazy when I was younger - I simply didn't 
> enjoy doing the household chores while my brothers were out playing 
> :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship in a similar base 
> language, which be in this area of discussion!
> 
>   Esperanza
> 
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Well, I guess I will never find out where my father got the word "tarayata".  He was always laughing when he said it, sort of like calling us "rascals" when we were rough-housing with him.  He was not prone to name calling, and being from Mexico, he spoke proper Castilian as his people had.  My mother, who spoke a strange old 17th century Spanish dialect from New Mexico (according to my Spanish friend), one that I no longer hear, was not laughing when she called me "tonta, suata, surumata, tisica, fea, chirisca, prieta, trige~na" all in one breath.  I must have been a handful, and I think I am the only throw-back in the family to our dark-skinned, kinky-haired North African-Moorish ancestors.  I'm surprised I didn't grow up with an inferiority complex due to being made fun of by the "gueros" in the family.  I just used to think they were the stupid ones, the politically incorrect ones that when losing an argument, would voice their prejudices against something I had nothing to do with.  I guess they thought they had one up on me.  I was surprised that in Mexico they use such terms as "negritos, chinitos, morenitos, inditos" etc.  You are right, Maria, they are very politically incorrect, when even their president betrays that aspect of their society. 
 
    Emilie Garcia
    Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: readysetgo95814
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroupscom
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
 
I've heard "taruga" and "tarada" growing up too.  "Tonta" is another
synonym.  I have to admit I call my own kids some of those names from
time to time. Just trying to keep the tradition going...  :)

I wonder if it's because our culture hasn't gotten on the politically
correct bandwagon? I thought about that when President Fox made that
statement about our gente taking jobs "that even Blacks won't take".
The Mexican response to the American one was that it wasn't meant to
offend. Understanding our cultura the way I understand it I knew that
to be true. However, Fox was criticized because; as some pointed out,
he was educated here in the States and should've known better.

Maria

p.s. Another word that I remember hearing is "vaquetón".  This one
means rascal or something along those lines.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in "como eres
tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost like "como eres menso". 
Tarugo, tarado, and menso are used in about the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different times!
>
> John
>
> 1gnzlz@v...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: latina1955@a...
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
>
>
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was often called
because I was considered lazy when I was younger - I simply didn't
enjoy doing the household chores while my brothers were out
playing :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship in a
similar base language, which be in this area of discussion!
>
>   Esperanza
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"Vaquetón"  comes from the word "vaqueta"
which means rawhide.  Un vaqueton is a "thick-skinned" individual who
doesn't care, takes advantage of other people goodness, lazy, and on, and
on...

 

 



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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:50
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling


I've heard "taruga" and "tarada" growing up too. 
"Tonta" is another
synonym.  I have to admit I call my own kids some
of those names from
time to time. Just trying to keep the tradition
going...  :)

I wonder if it's because our culture hasn't gotten on
the politically
correct bandwagon? I thought about that when President Fox
made that
statement about our gente taking jobs "that even Blacks won't
take".
The Mexican response to the American one was that it wasn't meant
to
offend. Understanding our cultura the way I understand it I knew that

to be true. However, Fox was criticized because; as some pointed out,

he was educated here in the States and should've known
better.

Maria

p.s. Another word that I remember hearing is
"vaquetón".  This one
means rascal or something along those
lines.

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My wife is from Los Altos, Jalisco, and she uses both
words when she is mad.

Alberto.

--- John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in
> "como eres tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost
> like "como eres menso".  Tarugo, tarado, and menso
> are used in about the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different
> times!
> 
> John 
> 
> 1gnzlz@...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: latina1955@... 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
> 
> 
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was
> often called because I was considered lazy when I
> was younger - I simply didn't enjoy doing the
> household chores while my brothers were out playing
> :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship
> in a similar base language, which be in this area of
> discussion!
> 
>   Esperanza
> 
> 
>
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I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado". 
Tarugo as in "como eres tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost
like "como eres menso".  Tarugo, tarado, and menso are used in about the
same context.

I know, I've been called all three at different
times!

 

John

 



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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name
Calling



"Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was often called because I
was considered lazy when I was younger - I simply didn't enjoy doing the
household chores while my brothers were out playing :).  Perhaps the
"tara" portion is the relationship in a similar base language, which be in
this area of discussion!

 

Esperanza