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Published by brturoqamos – Mon, 2005-09-26 08:57 | Permalink

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And finally one more piece of information...

The church where your ancestors and relatives were baptized was 
probablt the Vicaria de Nuestra Senora de Dolores de Abrego, which is 
part of the parrish of Fresnillo...

http://www.obispadozacatecas.org.mx/M7.htm


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" 
<TexGonzales@m...> wrote:
> Hi Ranchos Group Members,
> 
> I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, 
> Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my
> father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in 
> Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side.  I was born in California
> and 
> am a transplant to Texas.  Most of my family is still in 
California, 
> up and down the coast.
> 
> I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non-
> statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 
> timeframes.  I also us the US Census records for family 
> identifications in the 1920-30 period.
> 
> I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal 
> records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891).  I have birth 
registrations 
> for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in 
> Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal 
> grandfather, Ramon.  I have not yet tried to look up records on my 
> great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa.  
> I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and
> their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and sister 
> so I don't get lost in a great chase.  The only thing I see in
> Julian
> and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents
> (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia).  They 
> don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were 
> born.  It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de 
> Obrega.  Anyone have info on that Hacienda?
> 
> I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS 
> Family History Center.  It's entitled "Diccionario
> Biográfico y 
> Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588.  It was
> published in 
> about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and names 
> that were of that time period.  It has some info on ranchos, but 
> only general names.  For example, I could not find Rancho San Justo 
> alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance 
> others might be listed.  I have it on permanent loan and have found 
> it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s .
> 
> Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey.  
> Maybe I can get some help from this group.  Please see my 
> website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under
> Yahoo 
> Groups.  I have several stories there about the lines I have been 
> researching.
> 
> Michael Gonzales

Published by brturoqamos – Mon, 2005-09-26 07:52 | Permalink

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I think this is your grandfather and your great-grandmother, 
Michael.  Looks like your search will end up being in Fresnillo and 
Jerez, Zacatecas.

Ramon Gonzales  
  Male   Family 
Event(s): 
 Birth:  31 AUG 1891   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  31 OCT 1969    
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  Victor Gonzales  Family 
  Mother:  Luisa Ayala     
Marriages: 
  Marriage:  03 JUL 1919   Anaheim, , , California 
 
Luisa Ayala  
  Female     
Event(s): 
 Birth:  25 AUG 1869   Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  02 SEP 1919    
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  Jose Maria Ayala  Family 
  Mother:  Serapia Reyes Medina  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
wrote:
> Victor:
> 
> Was your grandfather's mother's last name Ayala?  If so this may be 
a 
> good start for your search from the IGI database.  You can try 
> looking up one of these baptismal records and see if the 
grandparent 
> names match.  No luck on finding Rancho San Justo, but the resource 
> you are referencing is available online: 
> 
> http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
> 
> Victor Gonzales  
>   Male   Family 
> Event(s): 
>  Birth:  06 MAR 1855   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
> Mexico 
>  Christening:  
>  Death:  30 JUL 1934    
>  Burial:  
> Marriages: 
>   Spouse:  Luisa Ayala  Family 
>   Marriage:  About 1880   , Zacatecas, Mexico 
> 
> Luisa Ayala  
>   Female   Family 
> Event(s): 
>  Birth:  25 AUG 1869   Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico 
>  Christening:  
>  Death:  02 SEP 1919    
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" 
> <TexGonzales@m...> wrote:
> > Hi Ranchos Group Members,
> > 
> > I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, 
> > Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my
> > father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in 
> > Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side.  I was born in California
> > and 
> > am a transplant to Texas.  Most of my family is still in 
> California, 
> > up and down the coast.
> > 
> > I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non-
> > statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 
> > timeframes.  I also us the US Census records for family 
> > identifications in the 1920-30 period.
> > 
> > I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal 
> > records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891).  I have birth 
> registrations 
> > for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in 
> > Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal 
> > grandfather, Ramon.  I have not yet tried to look up records on 
my 
> > great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa.  
> > I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and
> > their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and 
sister 
> > so I don't get lost in a great chase.  The only thing I see in
> > Julian
> > and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents
> > (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia).  
They 
> > don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were 
> > born.  It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de 
> > Obrega.  Anyone have info on that Hacienda?
> > 
> > I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS 
> > Family History Center.  It's entitled "Diccionario
> > Biográfico y 
> > Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588.  It was
> > published in 
> > about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and 
names 
> > that were of that time period.  It has some info on ranchos, but 
> > only general names.  For example, I could not find Rancho San 
Justo 
> > alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance 
> > others might be listed.  I have it on permanent loan and have 
found 
> > it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s .
> > 
> > Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey.  
> > Maybe I can get some help from this group.  Please see my 
> > website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under
> > Yahoo 
> > Groups.  I have several stories there about the lines I have been 
> > researching.
> > 
> > Michael Gonzales

Published by brturoqamos – Sun, 2005-09-25 23:24 | Permalink

Comment

I think this is your Victor and it looks like someone else is doing 
research on this family:

Victor Gonzales  
  Male     
Event(s): 
 Birth:  06 MAR 1855   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  30 JUL 1934    
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  Abraham Gonzales  Family 
  Mother:  Benancia Medina  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" 
<TexGonzales@m...> wrote:
> Hi Ranchos Group Members,
> 
> I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, 
> Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my
> father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in 
> Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side.  I was born in California
> and 
> am a transplant to Texas.  Most of my family is still in 
California, 
> up and down the coast.
> 
> I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non-
> statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 
> timeframes.  I also us the US Census records for family 
> identifications in the 1920-30 period.
> 
> I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal 
> records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891).  I have birth 
registrations 
> for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in 
> Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal 
> grandfather, Ramon.  I have not yet tried to look up records on my 
> great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa.  
> I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and
> their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and sister 
> so I don't get lost in a great chase.  The only thing I see in
> Julian
> and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents
> (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia).  They 
> don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were 
> born.  It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de 
> Obrega.  Anyone have info on that Hacienda?
> 
> I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS 
> Family History Center.  It's entitled "Diccionario
> Biográfico y 
> Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588.  It was
> published in 
> about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and names 
> that were of that time period.  It has some info on ranchos, but 
> only general names.  For example, I could not find Rancho San Justo 
> alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance 
> others might be listed.  I have it on permanent loan and have found 
> it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s .
> 
> Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey.  
> Maybe I can get some help from this group.  Please see my 
> website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under
> Yahoo 
> Groups.  I have several stories there about the lines I have been 
> researching.
> 
> Michael Gonzales

Published by brturoqamos – Sun, 2005-09-25 23:12 | Permalink

Comment

Victor:

Was your grandfather's mother's last name Ayala?  If so this may be a 
good start for your search from the IGI database.  You can try 
looking up one of these baptismal records and see if the grandparent 
names match.  No luck on finding Rancho San Justo, but the resource 
you are referencing is available online: 

http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm

Victor Gonzales  
  Male   Family 
Event(s): 
 Birth:  06 MAR 1855   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  30 JUL 1934    
 Burial:  
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  Luisa Ayala  Family 
  Marriage:  About 1880   , Zacatecas, Mexico 

Luisa Ayala  
  Female   Family 
Event(s): 
 Birth:  25 AUG 1869   Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  02 SEP 1919    


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" 
<TexGonzales@m...> wrote:
> Hi Ranchos Group Members,
> 
> I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, 
> Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my
> father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in 
> Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side.  I was born in California
> and 
> am a transplant to Texas.  Most of my family is still in 
California, 
> up and down the coast.
> 
> I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non-
> statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 
> timeframes.  I also us the US Census records for family 
> identifications in the 1920-30 period.
> 
> I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal 
> records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891).  I have birth 
registrations 
> for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in 
> Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal 
> grandfather, Ramon.  I have not yet tried to look up records on my 
> great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa.  
> I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and
> their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and sister 
> so I don't get lost in a great chase.  The only thing I see in
> Julian
> and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents
> (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia).  They 
> don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were 
> born.  It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de 
> Obrega.  Anyone have info on that Hacienda?
> 
> I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS 
> Family History Center.  It's entitled "Diccionario
> Biográfico y 
> Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588.  It was
> published in 
> about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and names 
> that were of that time period.  It has some info on ranchos, but 
> only general names.  For example, I could not find Rancho San Justo 
> alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance 
> others might be listed.  I have it on permanent loan and have found 
> it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s .
> 
> Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey.  
> Maybe I can get some help from this group.  Please see my 
> website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under
> Yahoo 
> Groups.  I have several stories there about the lines I have been 
> researching.
> 
> Michael Gonzales

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