Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I've had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
I've had the mtDNA, Y-DNA and Deep-Clade tests. I belong to an FTDNA surname project and a Haplogroup/Geographic project which I'm colaborating with. This is more of a "deep-ancestry" or phylogeography project rather than a surname-based genealogical project. Click here
Victor
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Victor,
What is your haplogroup and mutations (if any) for your mtDNA ? The National Geographic "Genographic Project," is another project focusing on the dominant trends of migration.
Pat
wixaritori wrote:
I've had the mtDNA, Y-DNA and Deep-Clade tests. I belong to an FTDNA surname project and a Haplogroup/Geographic project which I'm colaborating with. This is more of a "deep-ancestry" or phylogeography project rather than a surname-based genealogical project. Click here
Victor
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Pat,
E3b* (M35 underived) on the paternal and mtDNA "A" on the maternal line.
You're right about NG's Genographic Project which is focusing on ancestral
migrations or in other words, phylogeography, the geographical distribution
of genealogical-genetic lineages.
Studying the Y chromosome and the mitochondrial DNA gives us a very, very
narrow field of vision into our genetic ancestry, that is, we only discover
two direct lineages and practically nothing of the other parallel lineages
that double with every generational step. But since most of our lines
intersect at different points in time in our genealogical past, when I
learn about your direct genetic lineages I might as well be learning about
those unknown ancestors of mine. And when you learn about my direct genetic
lineages you could as well be learning about some of your unknown ancestors
too.
Paraphrasing that old saying: No man or woman is a genetic island.
Victor
On 6/16/06, Patricia Corbera wrote:
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Victor,
I just purchased a copy of "The Seven Daughters of Eve" by Bryan Sykes... "the science that reveals our genetic ancestry." It was published in 2001, but with the onset of DNA testing made affordable now, I'm sure it will be back in reprint again. I'm anxious to read what he has to say.
I'm not familiar with the YDNA groupings. I'm hoping that my brother will be tested. That test will supply information for both our paternal and male maternal direct lines, because our paternal grandfather was our maternal grandfather's uncle. Their fathers were brothers... hence the common male YDNA line would be the same. Now I just need to locate either a male or female offspring of our paternal maternal line. Very interesting subject... Thank you for your input.
Pat
victor villarreal wrote:
Pat,
E3b* (M35 underived) on the paternal and mtDNA "A" on the maternal line.
You're right about NG's Genographic Project which is focusing on ancestral
migrations or in other
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I'm looking for someone of Spanish descent (or someone who lived in
or around Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico) who may have the same results
I have. I have joined the FamilyTreeDNA surname group for Romero,
the J2 group, Mexico DNA, and IberianPenensulaDNA groups. I have not
found any near matches
Paternal Paternal: J2b1 positive for both M102 and M205
Paternal Maternal: Can't find a family member
Maternal Maternal: U5a1a
Maternal Paternal: waiting for results
I have had a deep SNP test on my J2 and the results can't be posted
as yet. FamilyTreeDNA has to change their J2 Haplotree to include my
results. My Y-DNA is +102/+205.
Linda
Linda R Romero
Halstead Y-DNA Group Administrator
romero89@earthlink.net
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Halstead/
Researching: Halstead, Halsted, Hallstead, Hallsted, Holstead, Holsted,
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Linda, Could you be so kind and let us know what are the various codes, such as J2b1, M102, M205, U5a1a.
Just attempting to get a better understanding of what our DNA will be compared with.
Thank You.~~~
Linda R Romero wrote:
I'm looking for someone of Spanish descent (or someone who lived in
or around Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico) who may have the same results
I have. I have joined the FamilyTreeDNA surname group for Romero,
the J2 group, Mexico DNA, and IberianPenensulaDNA groups. I have not
found any near matches
Paternal Paternal: J2b1 positive for both M102 and M205
Paternal Maternal: Can't find a family member
Maternal Maternal: U5a1a
Maternal Paternal: waiting for results
I have had a deep SNP test on my J2 and the results can't be posted
as yet. FamilyTreeDNA has to change their J2 Haplotree to include my
results. My Y-DNA is +102/+205.
Linda
Linda R Romero
Halstead Y-DNA Group Administrator
romero89@earthlink.net
http://www.familytreedna.com/public
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Hi Victor,
Glad to see a post from you. . .I missed you and your well thought out
and instructive posts to the group.
As for me I'm a flojo sometimes and tend to put things that I want and
need to do to the bottom of the pile. One of those things is to follow
through on the question I asked the Rootsweb DNA group that you answered
awhile back.
If I wanted to take a Hair that had a really big follicle on the root
how would you go about trying to save it for future geneations if this
is even possible? Can I go to funeral home and get a small jar of
embalming fluid and let the hair and roots sit in the for a few hundred
years? Afterall isn't Einstein's brain or parts of it floating around in
various places?
Is there an easy answer to this question? or for me to do this must i
depend on a freezer that keeps the hair at near zero Kelvin?
thanks,
joseph
ps: are there any members of that rootsweb group that you think are
knowledgeable enough for me to interview on DNA for
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Linda, I'm waiting for the DNA results from the same lab for my mothers brother, Luis Gutierrez. I found this line of Gutierrez ancestors in Ranchos de los Palos Altos, Atoyac, Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula Jalisco from 1780 to 1920. Before that they are in Chilchota Michoacan back to abt 1650. I've found many families from the Chilchota, Tlazazalca, Tangancicuaro and Valle de Zamora moving to Jalisco during the same time period my Gutierrez ancestors moved there. I will be sure to post the results. My mtdna came back group A, Native American. I did submit to the Gary Felix site and will send the Gutierrez results there too.
The other Linda in Everett
Linda R Romero wrote: Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I've had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for
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I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete. The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma Dynasty.
Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in the world. I have confidence in their results.
But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I've had both the Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she tested haplogroup B. Native American.
The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA terminology.
My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames and
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I have had my own Y-DNA and MtDNA tested as well as my father's MtDNA and a maternal male cousin's Y-DNA... all through FamilyTree DNA.
I have four lineages with the following general results:
Paternal Paternal: E3b (Mediterranean/Semetic)
Paternal Maternal: B (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
Maternal Paternal: R1b (Western European Cro-Magnon)
Maternal Maternal: A (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
I am hoping this will help me break through the brick wall that I have with my strictly paternal gggg-grandfather who was an "expuesto". Just recently someone matched 22 of 25 markers to his DNA... sounds promising.
Let me know what information you would like.
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From: Linda R Romero
Date: Fri Jun 16 09:38:31 CDT 2006
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA testing
Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I've had my Y-DNA results
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Ernie,
Was there ever a Father Alderete in your family? When I was little and
lived in El Paso, there was a nice priest named Father Alderete at
Sacred Heart. He was originally from El Paso and his mother lived in a
beautiful huge home in the Sunset Heights area. Is he kin to you?
Marge:)
On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:01 AM, erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
> I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete.
> The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma
> Dynasty.
>
> Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in
> the world. I have confidence in their results.
>
> But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I've had both the
> Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A
> surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We
> matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that
> could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never
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There's a good chance he was kin. My father was born in Ysleta on February 28, 1923.
Ysleta was absorbed into El Paso in the 1950s.
Your priest could be an unknown cousin, or an uncle of mine.
You could see a pictrure of my dad on my personal home page to see if there is any resemblence.
My father never knew his Alderete family. Not a one of them. Having been raised by his Ramirez mother. Only now am I establshing contact with the Alderetes of El Paso, including my dad's younger sister, my long lost aunt.
She wants to do a YDNA test to verify our growing bond, but one of her male relations has agreed to participate:(
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One of the long-standing challenges I face as I do research on my
Mexican roots is identifying the places. Part of the problem is that I
do not understand government jurisdictions in Mexico. In the US it's
easy: State, County, City; or State, County, Township; and for the
most part that never varies. Oh, there is the occasional city which is
not part of any county, and there are cities which sprawl across
several counties ... But all in all the arrangement is fairly
straightforward.
And there are books which detail which counties were made from which
and the dates of their formation.
But in Mexico it isn't so easy.
There are States (Estados).
And inside the states there are Municipios, which are somewhat like US
counties, but their history is different. Many of the ranchos and
haciendas and pueblos existed long before -- hundreds of years --
before there was any Municipio to include them. Ranchos were often
"elevated" to haciendas or eventually to municipios. And frankly, I
still
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I also have had my mtDNA tested (by Family Tree DNA Project). I tested out as Haplogroup H with the following mutation/polymorphism in positions - 16519c and 16172c. The H grouping places my maternal ancestry some 15 -20 thousand years ago in Western Europe. 40 -60% of the gene pool of most European populations is Haplogroup H.
Rome and Athens frequency of H is around 40 of the entire population. My genealogy focuses on the Island of Madeira, Portugal with links to Mainland Portugal, Spain, France. I'm currently waiting on the results of my H refinement test, hopefully that will produce matches within what is termed the genealogy time frame.
I hoping that my Mexican husband will have both his mtDNA and YDNA tested. I'm thinking his result for his mtDNA will be Native American, while his YDNA will be Western Europe... but I'm anxious to find out. This is such an interesting phase of learning about our "roots." You are so right about whatever the outcome of being tested is
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DNA testing