Following the principle of documenting each generation and looking for "who's your daddy's, daddy's, daddy's, daddy's, etc.",
I've discovered and documented 18 generations and bridged it to Spain. When in doubt, I ordered the microfilm of Mexico's church records of baptismsm, marriages, and public records to verify my research.
2 sets of 11th Great Grandparents from Spain.
My 11th Great Grandparents' (Hernando de Escobedo (b. abt. 1520) and Leonor Juairez from Spain) son Hernando, Jr. (b. abt 1542) married my other 11th Great Gtandparents' (Alonso de Illescas (b. abt. 1520) and Bernadina Diaz) daughter Mari. Henando, Jr. and Mari left from Toledo, Spain and arrived at Nueva Espana (Mexico) on 24 March 1568. In abt. 1571 he discovered rich gold mines (now named Santo Domingo). In abt. 1593 he founded the city of San Luis Potosi.
Hernando, Jr. and his son Francisco, a Spanish Captain, (b. abt. 1569 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas) founded Jerez, Zacatecas and his son founded Monte Escobedo. Apparently Francisco received 1/4 of his father's property. and in today's money that was probably more than what Bill Gates is worth.
Now if I could only figure out how to claim a lil' bit of that fortune! Ha! Ha!
Dear Joseph, good job. If you get something don´t forget your " Nuestros
ranchos" cousins.
Only one point. The royalty papers of the foundation of The city of San Luis
Potosi, said that, was founded on November the 3th of 1592 by: Capitan
Miguel Caldera and Juan De Oñate (who was later New Mexico Gubernator), and
the royalty writer was Pedro Venegas.
In April 1593, Juan De Oñate gave city land to the first people.
The land was separated to the next people: Hernando De Escobedo (Your
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGF),Tomas Rudor, Alonso De Velasco, Jeronimo de Cabrera, Manuel
Jorge, Juan Ramirez and Hernando Sanchez Urdiales, Ana de Toledo, and
others.
Hernando Jr, was there, but he didn´t stay in the foundation papers.
If you need information, I am from San Luis Potosi, and I have several books
that talk about this
Regards
Cristobal Villalobos
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Thanks, Primo!
When it rains it pours!
It appears that I've discovered generations # 19 and #20 via Francisco de Escobedo's wife Maria de Covarrubias. They appear to be mostly in Seville and Granada Spain.
I suppose it's easier when it's the ancestors of Monte Escobedo -- famous people have their pedigrees well documented!
My head is spinning from all the available data!
P. S. I have some Villalobos in my family line as well.Jose Carlos de Leon
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> From: jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:25:54 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos> > Dear Joseph, good job. If you get something don´t forget your " Nuestros> ranchos" cousins.
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Greetings, Do you have any info on Cap Miguel Caldera and his descendants? Thanks - Anita
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> From: jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org, general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 12:25 PM
> Dear Joseph, good job. If you get something don´t forget
> your " Nuestros
> ranchos" cousins.
>
> Only one point. The royalty papers of the foundation of The
> city of San Luis
> Potosi, said that, was founded on November the 3th of 1592
> by: Capitan
> Miguel Caldera and Juan De Oñate (who was later New Mexico
> Gubernator), and
> the royalty writer was Pedro Venegas.
>
> In April 1593, Juan De Oñate gave city land to the first
> people.
> The land was separated to the next people: Hernando De
> Escobedo (Your
> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGF),Tomas Rudor, Alonso De Velasco, Jeronimo
> de Cabrera
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Anita, I have info posted on Rootsweb.com on Miguel Caldera but mostly from his sister Marias' line, those are the Caldera's from the district of Jerez Zacatecas mostly. They took the Caldera name instead of their fathers. There is also info from Susan Leniski in our Nuestrosranchos section you would be interested in, if you have a problem accessing it I'd be glad to send you a copy. I have 3 Caldera lines I have been trying to merge together with no luck so far.
Linda Castanon-Long in Everett
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 10:21 AM
Greetings, Do you have any info on Cap Miguel Caldera and his descendants?
Thanks - Anita
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I have a few Caldera that pepper my Family Tree but mostly in the 1700s and 1800s, but I don't know if that's any help.
Attached is the reference to Captain Miguel Caldera I found on the Message Boards. It appears Caldera received 15 varas as Stock-Shares in the Santo Domingo mines.Jose Carlos de Leon
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Hernado /de Escobedo /Fundo Luis Potosì, recibio un solar, descubrio las minas de Santo Domingo en el Cerro de San Pedro le dieron15 Varasal Capitan Miguel Caldera. LAS Varas ERAN COMO ACCIONESESCOBEDO, Hernando deNació entre 1542 y 1546. Probablemente minero. Llegó a Zacatecas hacia 1567. En 1571 fue condenado varias veces por pena de ordenanza y tuvo que pagar diferentes multas a la Cámara Real de Zacatecas: el 19 de enero, 6 pesos y 5 tomines de oro común, sentenciado por Juan de RenterÃa, alcalde mayor de las minas; el 15 de junio, 11 pesos y 2 granos de oro común, después de la sentencia pronunciado por el mismo funcionario; el 27
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Joe, did you get my last email with more scans?
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From: Joseph de Leon
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 12:07 PM
I have a few Caldera that pepper my Family Tree but mostly in the 1700s and
1800s, but I don't know if that's any help.
Attached is the reference to Captain Miguel Caldera I found on the Message
Boards. It appears Caldera received 15 varas as Stock-Shares in the Santo
Domingo mines.Jose Carlos de Leon
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Hernado /de Escobedo /Fundo Luis Potosì, recibio un solar, descubrio las
minas de Santo Domingo en el Cerro de San Pedro le dieron15 Varasal Capitan
Miguel Caldera. LAS Varas ERAN COMO ACCIONESESCOBEDO, Hernando deNació entre
1542 y 1546. Probablemente minero. Llegó a Zacatecas hacia 1567. En 1571 fue
condenado varias veces por pena de ordenanza y tuvo que
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No, nothing cameJose Carlos de Leon
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> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:27:00 -0700> From: resco16@sbcglobal.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos> > Joe, did you get my last email with more scans?> > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Joseph de Leon wrote:> > From: Joseph de Leon > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 12:07 PM> > I have a few Caldera that pepper my Family Tree but mostly in the 1700s and> 1800s, but I don't know if that's any help. > Attached is the reference to Captain Miguel Caldera I found on the Message> Boards. It appears Caldera received 15 varas as Stock-Shares in the Santo> Domingo mines.Jose Carlos de Leon> > > > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me> Hernado /de Escobedo /Fundo Luis Potosì, recibio un solar
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Hello Anita
All the information that I have is from the books of the Historia de San
Luis Potosi from Primo Feliciano Velazquez
They said that Capitan Miguel Caldera was natural son of Pedro Caldera from
Villa de Jerez and a Chichimeca india.
He was born in 1548, they think some place in Zacatecas. He died in
September of 1597 in San Juan Del Rio Queretaro.
He had a natural daughter Isabel Caldera who married with Juan De La Torre,
and they have two children, Marcos y Melchor De la Torre.
Miguel Caldera have two half brothers Cristobal Caldera (Lived in Fresnillo)
and Don Francisco Caldera, and one sister, Mari Cid, married with Hernan
Gonzalez, they had a son, Pedro Cid.
I hope this information Help you.
Regards
Cristóbal Villalobos
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Dear Joseph, good job. If you get something don´t forget your " Nuestros
ranchos" cousins.
Only one point. The royalty papers of the foundation of The city of San Luis
Potosi, said that, was founded on November the 3th of 1592 by: Capitan
Miguel Caldera and Juan De Oñate (who was later New Mexico Gubernator), and
the royalty writer was Pedro Venegas.
In April 1593, Juan De Oñate gave city land to the first people.
The land was separated to the next people: Hernando De Escobedo (Your
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGF),Tomas Rudor, Alonso De Velasco, Jeronimo de Cabrera, Manuel
Jorge, Juan Ramirez and Hernando Sanchez Urdiales, Ana de Toledo, and
others.
Hernando Jr, was there, but he didn´t stay in the foundation papers.
If you need information, I am from San Luis Potosi, and I have several books
that talk about this
Regards
Cristobal Villalobos
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Well Done! Always happy to see research that's been shared become a a part of reclaiming our heritage and history. You give me hope in taking my families back further.
thanks for sharing your info so openly and freely
Linda in Everett
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From: Joseph de Leon
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:26 PM
Following the principle of documenting each generation and looking for
"who's your daddy's, daddy's, daddy's, daddy's,
etc.",
I've discovered and documented 18 generations and bridged it to Spain.
When in doubt, I ordered the microfilm of Mexico's church records of
baptismsm, marriages, and public records to verify my research.
2 sets of 11th Great Grandparents from Spain.
My 11th Great Grandparents' (Hernando de Escobedo (b. abt. 1520) and Leonor
Juairez from Spain) son Hernando, Jr. (b. abt 1542)
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Well, maybe you will walk the way to El Dorado!
When I was starting my genealogy trip read about a girl who was searching her roots because she was requested to prove her belonging to the certain family by the surname Luft I think it was, she couldn´t make it in the requested time but contracted the genealogy seed.
Maybe you will get a good "tajada" (piece of cake).
Leticia Leon te saluda.
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De:: Joseph de Leon
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanchos
A: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: viernes, 10 octubre, 2008, 11:26 pm
Following the principle of documenting each generation and looking for
"who's your daddy's, daddy's, daddy's, daddy's,
etc.",
I've discovered and documented 18 generations and bridged it to Spain.
When in doubt, I ordered the microfilm of Mexico's church records of
baptismsm, marriages, and public records to verify my research.
2 sets of 11th
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I couldn't have done it without my primos' help at NuestrosRanch