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Hello,

I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan". for those of you who are researching, Ciudad Guzman, Sayula, Tecolotlan, and Tamazula.

I hope that it may help some of you.

Jonathan Walker

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Hola Jonathan:
Terminé de revisar la información que me enviaste, te lo agradezco mucho, me fue muy útil, pues gracias a eso, completé una rama en la cual tenía algunas dudas y eso es un detalle muy valioso de tu persona, nuevamente, gracias, recibe un cordial saludo.

Blanca Isabel

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Patricia, is this your Ramon Munguia?  I'm researching Munguia from Zapotlan, in my maternal line, also but earlier dates than this so don't have Ramon in my database.
Linda in Everett 
 

RAMON MUNGUIA
Pedigree

 
Male
 
Family

Event(s):

Birth: 

Christening: 

Death: 

Burial: 

Marriages:

 
Spouse: 
MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN
Family

 
Marriage: 

28 NOV 1838  
Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.: 
Dates: 
Source Call No.: 
Type: 
Printout Call No.: 
Type: 

M603507 
1825 - 1839 
0224988  
Film 
NONE 
 

Sheet: 00

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, patty haro wrote:

From: patty haro
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Larios Research Update
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 6:35 AM

hola,
I just saw your folder, we are researching in

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Yes, that´s the one, thank you very much for the info, let me look up for
the marriage record o perhaps the matrimonial information and I´ll let you
know, we might be relatives, I have to do alot of reseach in that branch.

Patty

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Erlinda Castanon-Long
longsjourney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Patricia, is this your Ramon Munguia? I'm researching Munguia from
> Zapotlan, in my maternal line, also but earlier dates than this so don't
> have Ramon in my database.
> Linda in Everett
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> Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source
> records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date

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hola,
I just saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, but I couln´t
find no match with any of my lines, perhaps you have something about
Catharina Peña that married Gregorio Medina Brambila around 1787 or Felipa
Castillo daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores, Felipa married
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel around 1850 they all are from Tecolotlan.
And from Cd. Guzman Lucia González Guerra, daughter of Salvador Gonzalez
Guerra and Maria de Jesús Munguia whom got married on 9 de noviembre de
1870, María de Jesús Munguia was daughter of Ramon Munguia and Maria
Barragan.
I hope you can help me with something because I am stock in that last lane.

I know there are Larios in my family but I am not very sure, I´ll have to
ask to my relatives that are still in Cd. Guzman
Thank you,

Patricia Haro.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:56 AM, wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan". for
> those of you who are researching, Ciudad

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Hello Jonathan:

I saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, I don't speak english, but I hope that you understand me:
- Mariana de la Peña del Castillo died 10 september 1775 and she married whit Antonio Santa Ana Gomez (may 24, 1713, my surnames'research es Santa Ana, I have a lot information about him.
- Manuela de la Peña del Castillo (october 6, 1737) was married whit Agustin Gusman.
Thank you, your information helped me a lot.
Blanca Isabel

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Blanca,

I looked at your file, and I can say that you and my wife are definitely related. Depending on your relation to Ramon Santana you are 7th cousins.

I am including a updated Ancestry chart for you. I hope that it will help you.

Jonathan

Ahnentafel Chart for Ramon Santana Villalpando

First Generation

1. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911 in Juchitla, Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

Ramon married Elpidia Delgado Cobian.

Second Generation

2. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Manuel married Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba.

3. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children.

+ 1 M i. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911.

Third Generation

4. Jose Anastacio De Jesus

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hola,
I think we are also related, I couldn´t find my ancesters in your record but
I think I might be in two or tree branches from tecolotlan Jalisco.

I have not as much info as you have but here it is:

Juan Nepomuceno de Jesus Medina Castillo born in 1841 son of
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel and Felipa Castillo
FELIPA CASTILLO daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel son of Abundio Medina Peña and Maria Josefa
Michel married 1806 in Ejutla
Maria Josefa Michel daughter of Juan Michel and Mariana Santana
Abundio Medina Peña son of Jose Gregorio Medina de la Brambila and
Catharina Peña
Jose Gregorio de Medina de la Brambila born 1759 tecolotlan Jalisco son of
Miguel Medina and Theresa Brambila married in 1753
Miguel Medina son of Juan Joseph Medina and Francisco Delgado married in
1721 in Sayula

As you can see my reseach is mainly centered in the Medina Family, but I am
also interested in the other branches.

I have copy of the "dispensa

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Dear Jonathan and Blanca,

I think that we may be able to link up some of our work.  Please check your records to see if you find any leads to Magdaleno, Maclovio, or Nicolas Santana. 

My Mother, Francisca Santan Gonzalez, says that Ramon Santana Villalpando was a first cousin of her father Magdaleno Santana Guijarro.

Have you found the connection to the famous singer, Carlos Santana from Autlan, Jalisco?  Before passing my grandfather Magdaleno Santana told me that he was related to him.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Raymond Gonzalez Santana

Magdaleno Santana                                      =                                  Maria Gonzalez

11/22/1896 – 01/19/1986                    11/27/1916                            07/09/1899-08/13/1958

La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco                                    La Candelaria, Juchitlan, Jalisco                    

Children

Maria Guada
lupe Santana       12/01/1918

Florencio Santana                   02/23/1924

Jose

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Raymond,

this is what I could find, for you:

Ahnentafel Chart for Raymond Gonzalez Santana

Third Generation
4. Isaac Gonzalez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Isaac married Raquel Gomez Gutierrez.
5. Raquel Gomez Gutierrez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
+ 2 M i. Gonzalez.
6. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 23 Jul 1896 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 19 Jan 1986. Magdaleno married Maria Gonzalez on 27 Nov 1916.
7. Maria Gonzalez was born on 9 Jul 1899 in La Candelaria, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 13 Aug 1958.
They had the following children.
F i. Maria Guadalupe Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Dec 1918.
M ii. Florencio Santana Gonzalez was born on 23 Dec 1924.
M iii. Jose Santana Gonzalez was born on 31 Jan 1925.
F iv. Maria de Jesus Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Jan 1926.
+ 3 F v. Francisca Santana Gonzalez

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Jonathan,

Are you able help me with Isaac Gonzalez and Raquel Gomez Gutierrez.  I know that Raquel was adopted and Gomez Gutierrez are her adoptive surnames. How deep are you able to go with this information and the resources you have at your finger tips?

Ray Gonzalez

-----Original Message-----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 8:54 am
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santana Relation

Raymond, 
 
this is what I could find, for you: 
 
Ahnentafel Chart for Raymond Gonzalez Santana 
 
Third Generation 
4. Isaac Gonzalez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Isaac married Raquel Gomez Gutierrez. 
5. Raquel Gomez Gutierrez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
They had the following children. 
+ 2 M i. Gonzalez. 
6. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 23 Jul 1896 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 19 Jan 1986. Magdaleno

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Jonathan:

hola, Ramón Santana Villalpando was my grandfather.

Revisé la información que me enviaste, coincido en muchos datos, a continuación te menciono algunos que no se encuentran en el archivo que enviaste:

-JOSE ROSALIO SOTERO GARCÍA married ISIDRA PRECIADO DE SANTA ANA (Parents: José María Preciado y Maria de las Nieves Santa Ana)

- MARIA JOSEFA GARCIA SANTANA married JOSE MARIA ROSENTO DE SANTA ANA ARAIZA (parents: Juan María de Santa Ana and Josefa Araiza)

- MA. MARCELINA GARCIA RAMIREZ married with MANUEL MAGAÑA GARCÍA 8oarentes: Miguel Magaña y Leonor García)

- I have other brother, that you dont': JOSE GUADALUPE MACEDONIO GARCIA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA (1795)

- PETRONILA GARCÍA DE ALVA and ALEJANDRO PRECIADO had:

- JOSE MARIA VISENTE PRESEADO (01-NOV-1774)

- JOSE CLEMENTE PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALVA, married with MARIA GUADALUPE LUNA SANTA ANA (parents: Rafael de Luna Villegas y María Santa Ana Mora, Grandparents: Tomas Santa Ana Gomez and Josefa

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Blanca,

By any chance do you have any Ibarra y Santa Ana? I have a marriage in
Sayula, Jalisco in 1711 between Antonio de Ibarra y Santa Ana and Gertrudis
de Aguilar y Mungia. Does this sound familiar to you?

-Angelina-

Comentario

Blanca,

Disculpame, no me fije que el mensaje estaba en espanol. Vi el apellido
Santa Ana y me enthusiame. Por casualidad no tienes Ibarra y Santa Ana en tu
arbol?

En Sayula, Jalisco en el ano 1711 tengo el matrimonio de Antonio de Ibarra y
Santa Ana con Gertrudis de Aguilar y Mungia.

Conoces algo sobre esta pareja?

-Angelina-

Comentario

Hola Angelina:

lamento decirte que no tengo nada sobre lo que me pides, ninguno de mis antepasados son de Sayula, sino de Tecolotlán, }Tenamaxtlan, Autlán y Tuxcacuezco.

Saludos

Blanca Isabel

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Patricia,

I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what I found:

Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
First Generation
1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
Second Generation
2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
3. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
They had the following children.
+ 1 F i. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
M ii. Adolfo Vergara Medina was born in 1926. He died in 2004.
M iii. David Vergara Medina was born in 1932. He died in 1990.
Third Generation
4. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 26 Dec 1849 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ on 24 Feb 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
5. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ was born

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I don´t know were do you find this, but you even have my mother there, Luz
Georgina Vergara Medina, let me see it carefully but it might be my own
research!, it´s a lot of data, what is an Ahnentafel chart?.

Thank you for helping me, I´ll tell you in a few days if you provide me
aditional info and that means someone is doing the same reseach that I am
doing.

Gracias again.
Patty

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM, wrote:

> Patricia,
>
> I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what
> I found:
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> Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
> First Generation
> 1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
> Second Generation
> 2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz
> Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 3. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
> They had the following children.
> + 1 F i. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was

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No, It is not my reseach, it is quite more complete with the christening
datas, so far.
Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!,

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, patty haro wrote:

> I don´t know were do you find this, but you even have my mother there, Luz
> Georgina Vergara Medina, let me see it carefully but it might be my own
> research!, it´s a lot of data, what is an Ahnentafel chart?.
>
> Thank you for helping me, I´ll tell you in a few days if you provide me
> aditional info and that means someone is doing the same reseach that I am
> doing.
>
> Gracias again.
> Patty
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM, wrote:
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>> Patricia,
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>> I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what
>> I found:
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>> Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
>> First Generation
>> 1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
>> Second Generation
>> 2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz
>> Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in

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Patty,

In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member, who I have given suggestions to.

I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.

Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call researching) with the information. I just apply the different research strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find additional information, and other times I don't.

So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today. And now it is yours again.

In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some suggestions, feel free to contact me.

As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business, for a few years now. So some you may be wondering if I will

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Jonathan,

You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives without expecting anything in return.

I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with those who are just beginning.

Thank You Jonathan and thanks to all of the world class researchers.

Sincerely,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update

Patty,

In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member, who I have given suggestions to.

I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it

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I agree with my cousing about Johathan and I would include Arturo Ramos
Sylvia Corona

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have
> so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives
> without expecting anything in return.
>
> I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may
> know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with
> those who are just beginning.
>
> Thank You Jonathan and thanks to all of the world class researchers.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Calif
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>
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> ________________________________
> From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
>
> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at

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Yes, thank you Jonathan for your generous and insightful assistance. I have been searching for my family lines for several decades and in a short time you came up with a couple of more generations of my family.
 
You are a genealogical genius.
 
Rolando M. Romo
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Sylvia H Corona wrote:

From: Sylvia H Corona
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:48 AM

I agree with my cousing about Johathan and I would include Arturo Ramos
Sylvia Corona

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have
> so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives
> without expecting anything in return.
>
> I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may
> know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with
> those who are just beginning.
>
>

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Jonathan,
Well, what can I tell you MIL GRACIAS, you help me a lot!!!!!, I had some of
the names buy you provide me with many dates that would be very useful to
find the records, it seems that what you have done is easy, but it is a lot
of work, and you done it overnight, so you are very good at this.
Thanks again for taking the time to help us!

Patty

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM, wrote:

> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I

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Good Evening to All,
I've got a pretty simple question: How many members belong to Nuestros Ranchos? Thanks so much, Alice BB
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> ________________________________
> From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
>
> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research.  And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent.  I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years.  Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I don't.
>
> So basically, it was your research, until I

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