i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request a copy of that pedigree chart?
I have looked at several of the 'ordenes' films and found them to be somewhat disorganized. The years overlap so you have to search several films to cover the year in question. I have found no pedigree charts but instead many loose documents associated with the priest. At least the documents for individual priests are filmed together. They include documentation from various parishes and government authorities concerning birth, baptism, confirmation, seminary records, etc. Although I found no charts, the documents do show parents and locations and can be very useful. Good luck.
Omar Codina
Austin, Texas
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Thanks Omar for this report. I also noticed the overlapping and wondered
if it was the same material repeated on the various films or if it was
different areas and or individuals for those overlapping years. Is that
what you mean by "At least the documents for individual priests are
filmed together" that it does cover different areas and individuals for
the years that overlap?
If you were looking for a certain priest and let me just say that he
starts showing up in the records around 1862 (see one example here:
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/CiprianoPuente.jpg). What would you do to find
his records? Would you start at that year and work back? Seems like he
might have been a priest in another parish before so maybe his records
start many years before that. I wonder how you'd go about finding info
on the priest without ordering 20-30 years worth of films?
thanks again for reporting on these films,
joseph
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irbaca@gmail.com wrote:
> i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the
vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request
a copy of that pedigree chart?
I don't know exactly what is on these films but if you decide to order
one PLEASE give us a full report on the information found on them. I
would love to find out exactly who the Priest name Cipriano Puente was
in the Huejcar area of Jalisco in the late 1800's. Have a look and get
back to us:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetail…
Title
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1604-1898
Authors
Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)
Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en Guadalajara.
Ordenes de los ingresos al sacerdocio.
Documents regarding ordinations to the priesthood within the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
Subjects
México, Jalisco - Church records
México
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I am also very interested what is on these films. They could serve a very valuable purpose for the ancestry charts. I was wondering if anybody has any Camarena lines that go back to Ayotlan, Jalisco. I have a line that ends with Catalina Camarena born in Valencia, Spain who married Francisco Bufreo.
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:57:57 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] priest pedrigree charts
>
>
>
> irbaca@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the
> vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request
> a copy of that pedigree chart?
>
>
> I don't know exactly what is on these films but if you decide to order
> one PLEASE give us a full report on the information found on them. I
> would love to find out exactly who the Priest name Cipriano Puente was
> in the Huejcar area of Jalisco in the late 1800's. Have a look and get
> back to us:
>
> http:/
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This is the same Camarena of Los Altos Camarena was passed down insteadof Bufreo, they eventually reached Guadalajara and then settled in Los Altos.
Daniel
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> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:44:25 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] priest pedrigree charts
>
>
> I am also very interested what is on these films. They could serve a very valuable purpose for the ancestry charts. I was wondering if anybody has any Camarena lines that go back to Ayotlan, Jalisco. I have a line that ends with Catalina Camarena born in Valencia, Spain who married Francisco Bufreo.
>
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:57:57 -0400
>> From: makas@nc.rr.com
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] priest pedrigree charts
>>
>>
>>
>> irbaca@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the
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If this is true, then many mysteries regarding alteno genealogy wouldbe solved we should look into it. Its hard on some of them since somefilms overlap in years. As we know many important figures in Los Altosbecame priest, bishops, archbishops, deacons etc.
Daniel
I am related to the second Priest of Calvillo, Ags. Jose del Valle he is my direct ancestor, eventhough men in the order are not supposed to have kids at least inthat time, it didnt stop them from having illigitimate kids.
Daniel
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:57:57 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] priest pedrigree charts
>
>
>
> irbaca@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the
> vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request
> a copy of that pedigree chart?
>
>
> I don't know exactly what is on these films but if you decide to order
> one PLEASE give us a full report on the information
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Hi there ,
I have several priest friends here in Monterrey , Mexico and they all know about my genealogy madness and as a matter of fact several have made comments that they would like to do thier genealogy .
My point being that what you have heard may not be true . HOWEVER , I will call them and ask them .
I will keep you posted .
Welester
>
> > i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the
> vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request
> a copy of that pedigree chart?
>
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