This question is for those of you (probably all of you) who are using genealogy software to keep track of your information. Specifically Family Tree Maker, since this is what I'm using.
As you probably know... in Mexican(Latin) culture. Most people have 2 surnames starting with their own paternal then maternal name. I started my records listing only the paternal surnames in my list, with the exception of one name where I listed both surnames. When I went to go look for that person on my master list to the left of the program, I noticed that it was alphabetized by the maternal surname as opposed to the paternal. So in essence it threw it out of place.
I was wondering how most of you are listing your names? And what benefits do you see in doing it one way as opposed to the other.
Sometimes I think its more beneficial listing both names. Here's my reasoning... If you come across an ancestor with both surnames but don't know the parents. The surname can give you a clue as to the surname of the father as well as the mother. But the draw back, in my point of view, is that your index listing will be out of whack making it just a bit harder to find alphabetically.
Interested in hearing your opinions.
Thanks
Jose Acosta
What I've decided to do is list only the first surname. If I find a person with two surnames, I'll create a mother with a blank given name and the second last name of the child. I think that I'm better organized this way and sort better, particularly because half of the people in my file don't use dual surnames.
-Patti
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An alternative to "Family Tree Maker" is "My Heritage Family Three Builder", that allows compound non-hyphenated surnames to be listed. Also, is multilingual, and you can choose from dozens of languages within the same platform, allowing you to produce reports in any of the languages supported.
Jaime
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Jose,
I always use both surnames in my entries. I use the free PAF software and have
not had problems with the sequencing.
Because I've always known that both surnames are used in our culture I began to
use them both. I wouldn't do it any other way. Let's see what other people are
doing.
Good question to pose to the group at large.
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Double surnames and how thy should be listed
This question is for those of you (probably all of you) who are using genealogy
software to keep track of your information. Specifically Family Tree Maker,
since this is what I'm using.
As you probably know... in Mexican(Latin) culture. Most people have 2 surnames
starting with their own paternal then maternal name. I started my records
listing only the paternal surnames in my list, with the exception of one name
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Jose
PAF has three different options for dealing with surnames:
First name(s) surname
Surname first name(s)
First name(s) surname1 surname 2
The PAF coding for surnames is to place the name in between slash marks: /Fulton/ You can have any number of names between the slashes, and it will alphabetize beginning with the first one. If you use "de" as the first word of the name, it will alphabetize beginning with the "de". This can be problematic as the "de" gets dropped in more modern usage.
With some cultures, Dutch is the best example, proper alphabetization does not include the "little words" (in Dutch: the "tussenvoegsel") before the actual surname. The name "van der Meer" is properly alphebetized under M and not v. PAF does not handle this correctly, unless you code the surname as "van der /Meer/" rather than /van der Meer/.
Similarly terms like Jr and Sr, in my opinion, should be coded as "/Fulton/ Jr." and not /Fulton Jr./ Otherwise, when PAF builds the index (or PAF companion
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José:
You bring up a good point surnames are very important not only in our culture but our history especially in genealogy. These are only simple surnames though. In genealogy I usually don’t follow the paternal vs. maternal surname system in genealogy for the reason that I may not remember the combination, I personally do not have time to look through thousands of records for one name in my database. Whereas in the world how many Gutiérrez de Hermosillo existed, far less then than the millions of Gutiérrez alone.
Surnames become a double-edge sword once you begin to deal with compound and hyphenated surnames. One they’re longer and stand for one lineage. It gets more complicated when different people use different surnames for different reasons. A family of twelve back in the 1600s-1700s could have had all but six kids use say Gómez de Cervantes while one used de la Cotera y Rivas-Cacho, two kids used López de Peralta, etc. Many reasons why people used different surnames, they
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Estimado Daniel:
¿Serías tan amable de proporcionarme la filiación de tu línea López de
Peralta? Me interesa mucho pues yo tengo un estrecho parentesco con esa
familia por mis líneas maternas y me gustaría cotejar la información.
Gracias.
Saludos
Guillermo Tovar de Teresa
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Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Double surnames and how thy should be listed
José:
You bring up a good point surnames are very important not only in our
culture but our history especially in genealogy. These are only simple
surnames though. In genealogy I usually dont follow the paternal vs.
maternal surname system in genealogy for the reason that I may not remember
the combination, I personally do not have time to look through thousands of
records for one name in my database
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My solution to dual surnames