Hello,
I am new to Nuestros Ranchos and not sure how to begin. I am looking for information in the city of Encarnacion de Diaz for my deceased father's father (Paz Romero). He was born about 1880. Thank you.
Susan Romero Preciado
Hi Susan
You ask...what does it mean when it states 'this marriage required a consanguinity despensation'? (tercero con cuatro grado).
In the Roman Catholic Church a consanguinity dispensation is required in order to marry a "blood" relative within the fourth degree, which means that the engaged couple has a common great-great grandparent(s). A 'tercero con cuatro grado' means that the common ancestor(s) for the couple is a great-grandparent(s) for one and a great-great grandparent(s) for the other. This bit of information will be helpful as you build your family tree.
As you go farther back in time (prior to approx. 1812), you may want to visit Claudia Casilla's terrific website at http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/p/index-years-1800-1899.html, which has listings of extracted names from the Guadalajara Diocese records.
Austin Perez
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Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally from
Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a lot
of time as a child in that town and its surrounding ranchos. My curiosity
for the history of the area as well my ancestors started at a young age. I
remember a time when I made it a goal to visit as many churches as possible
in that area because the architecture fascinated me. That was when I was
9! My father being a good father took me to all those places. Having the
desire to investigate and learn drove me to ask my older relatives where I
came from. Who where my great grandfathers and Great Grandmothers? I
started my tree early on by asking first hand. I went back to the 1800's
and that was amazing!
Now as an adult I find myself wondering if I can go farther back. I
realize that a lot is out there for me to find, and that the tools are out
there. I also realize that with a group like this I can help others with
their journey.
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Welcome Hector! You could do no better than to join this group. I've had so
much help from everyone at Nuestros Ranchos. I made my daughter a promise I
would work on our family tree, with the help of NR staff, and Family Search,
I have found my grandfather and back 5 more to 1712. Stick with Nuestros
Ranchos they will lead you in the right direction and it will be like going on a
tresure hunt. Good Luck!
Ann M. Gutierrez
Chicago, IL USA
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From: Hector Guerra
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thu, October 25, 2012 6:03:10 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Encarnacion de Diaz
Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally from
Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a lot
of time as a child in that town and its surrounding ranchos. My curiosity
for the history of the area as well my ancestors started at a young age. I
remember a time when I made it a goal to visit as many churches as
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hola,
Tengo varios Guerras en mi árbol pero ellos son de Lagos de Moreno,
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Welcome Hector! You could do no better than to join this group. I've had
> so
> much help from everyone at Nuestros Ranchos. I made my daughter a
> promise I
> would work on our family tree, with the help of NR staff, and Family
> Search,
> I have found my grandfather and back 5 more to 1712. Stick with Nuestros
> Ranchos they will lead you in the right direction and it will be like
> going on a
> tresure hunt. Good Luck!
>
>
> Ann M. Gutierrez
> Chicago, IL USA
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hector Guerra
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thu, October 25, 2012 6:03:10 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Encarnacion de Diaz
>
> Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally from
> Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a lot
> of time as a
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Hola, marthaharo y todos, tambien muchos de mis Guerra's fueron baptizados en sm lagos y san Juan de lagos. Tal vez son de los mismos. Hojala nos puedemos hayudar.
Hector Guerra Polina.
California
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I am trying to put one together. Is there a suggested site? Wikitree? Any
advice is welcomed. Thanks for the email.
Hector Guerra Polina.
On Oct 25, 2012 4:02 PM, "Hector Guerra" wrote:
> Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally from
> Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a lot
> of time as a child in that town and its surrounding ranchos. My curiosity
> for the history of the area as well my ancestors started at a young age. I
> remember a time when I made it a goal to visit as many churches as possible
> in that area because the architecture fascinated me. That was when I was
> 9! My father being a good father took me to all those places. Having the
> desire to investigate and learn drove me to ask my older relatives where I
> came from. Who where my great grandfathers and Great Grandmothers? I
> started my tree early on by asking first hand. I went back to the 1800's
> and that was amazing!
>
> Now as an adult I
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Yes, I normally would not recommend My Heritage, but I must say they have the
most user-friendly tree. I did try others and did not find them easy to
navigate. But then I'm new at this and do not have much experience. Just pay
for the simple My Heritage membership and do not pay for anything
else/extras--- reason being, they do not produce any needed info. Stay away
from Ancestry and most of the others as they charge way too much for very
little. I know...been there and done it. Family Search, which is run by the
Later Day Saints is free and they are most helpful. Nuestros Ranchos is free
and also very helpful. Hector, if you find a user-friendly website for a
family tree, let me know. Have you visited this Wikitree? Does it look easy to
navigate? I will be honest with you genealogy is not easy, at times very
frustrating---especially when you have to search through 2-300 pages to find a
"pariente" but in the end, it's like finding a treasure. Stick with the
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Hi Susan and welcome.
I've only been a member for a few months, but during that time I have everyone here to be very helpful. It seems you already have the info you were looking for. I'm going to post a link a that I have found extremely helpful when I don't know what parish is in the area. This directory has helped me a lot. I hope you find it helpful.
http://www.thecatholicdirectory.com/directory.cfm?useaction=search_dire… De Diaz
Juanita Henniger
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don't forget to try Rootsweb.com.. it's free and the work of other genealogists like me..
good luck in your search for your roots
Linda in Boulder City, Nv
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From: Ann M. Gutierrez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Encarnacion de Diaz
Yes, I normally would not recommend My Heritage, but I must say they have the
most user-friendly tree. I did try others and did not find them easy to
navigate. But then I'm new at this and do not have much experience. Just pay
for the simple My Heritage membership and do not pay for anything
else/extras--- reason being, they do not produce any needed info. Stay away
from Ancestry and most of the others as they charge way too much for very
little. I know...been there and done it. Family Search, which is run by the
Later Day Saints is free and they are most helpful. Nuestros Ranchos is free
and also very helpful. Hector, if you
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I like www.Geneanet.org the most. I have used all of the sites that exist.
Armando
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Hector Guerra wrote:
> I am trying to put one together. Is there a suggested site? Wikitree? Any
> advice is welcomed. Thanks for the email.
>
> Hector Guerra Polina.
> On Oct 25, 2012 4:02 PM, "Hector Guerra" wrote:
>
> > Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally from
> > Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a lot
> > of time as a child in that town and its surrounding ranchos. My
> curiosity
> > for the history of the area as well my ancestors started at a young age.
> I
> > remember a time when I made it a goal to visit as many churches as
> possible
> > in that area because the architecture fascinated me. That was when I was
> > 9! My father being a good father took me to all those places. Having
> the
> > desire to investigate and learn drove me to ask my older relatives where
> I
> > came from. Who
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I like www.myheritage.com
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Armando wrote:
> I like www.Geneanet.org the most. I have used all of the sites that exist.
>
> Armando
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Hector Guerra wrote:
>
> > I am trying to put one together. Is there a suggested site? Wikitree? Any
> > advice is welcomed. Thanks for the email.
> >
> > Hector Guerra Polina.
> > On Oct 25, 2012 4:02 PM, "Hector Guerra" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everybody! My name is Hector Guerra. My family is originally
> from
> > > Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, better known as "La Chona"!! I spent a
> lot
> > > of time as a child in that town and its surrounding ranchos. My
> > curiosity
> > > for the history of the area as well my ancestors started at a young
> age.
> > I
> > > remember a time when I made it a goal to visit as many churches as
> > possible
> > > in that area because the architecture fascinated me. That was when I
> was
> > > 9! My father being a good father took me to all
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Hi Susan and welcome to the group.
I have a Jose de la Paz Romero baptized on Feb. 1, 1881: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18687-85489-76?cc=1874591&wc…
father's name: Feliciano Romero
mother's name: Felipa Romo
paternal grandparents: Jose Maria Romero & Refugia Gonzalez
maternal grandparents: Antonio Romo & Julia de Alva
padrinos: Antonio Romo & Ynes Cornejo
On the margin it states that Jose de la Paz married Regina Zermeno on Aug. 1, 1908 in: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18532-4073-16?cc=1874591&wc=…
The marriage record states that prior to his marriage, Jose Paz lived in Clito [Clifton] Arizona, it also states that this marriage required a consanguinity dispensation (tercero con cuatro grado).
Best Regards
Agustin Perez
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Hello Ernie,
You need to provide more info than that. What was the name of your father's
mother? Where did they marry? About what year? What were the names of your
father's siblings? Who did they marry and when? Those are all clues needed
in your search.
Armando
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Ernie Preciado <
ernie.preciado@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to Nuestros Ranchos and not sure how to begin. I am looking for
> information in the city of Encarnacion de Diaz for my deceased
> father's father (Paz Romero). He was born about 1880. Thank you.
>
> Susan Romero Preciado
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Romero in Encarnacion de Diaz