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I've come across a notation under the Padres title that I don't know what it means. It looks like w enclosed in a circle. Does anyone know what this means? Thanks

Juanita Henniger

Published by victorianonavarro (no verificado) – Dom, 2012-10-07 15:46 | Enlace permanente

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Since the notation is below each given name and surname, it seems to me it is "id.", which is an abbreviation of the Latin "idem" (identical), which as you guessed was used is like the " " when we mean "same as previous entry".
Victoriano Navarro

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I'm sorry. I seems I provided the wrong link. Here is the link I need help with. The symbol is used under the titles Padres and Padrinos. I've never seen it before in my research and I wondered if it was sort like the " " when we mean "same as previous entry". Thank you for taking the time to look at this.

Juanita

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Juanita,

No link was provided.

Alicia

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Notations in Confirmation

I'm sorry.  I seems I provided the wrong link.  Here is the link I need help with.  The symbol is used under the titles Padres and Padrinos.  I've never seen it before in my research and I wondered if it was sort like the " " when we mean "same as previous entry".  Thank you for taking the time to look at this.
Juanita

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Robert,

Thank you for clarifying the records. I assumed one was the dispensa that
had been mentioned on Nuestros Ranchos as well as another being the chart
from PARES

Regards,
Armando

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Enviado por gpf13 el Vie, 2014-01-03 14:47.

Some comments on these documents ...

(1) This is apparently the reference in the Jaime Holcomb family group
sheet for Lope Ruiz de Esparza: "Documentos proporcionados por el
Licenciado Luis Lopez Martinez: Prueba de nobleza y limpieza de sangre
hecha por el esposa en Aguascalientes con su ascendcia en Espana varias
generacions, Historia familiar y muy escueta genealogia de la esposa - dice
que la madre de la esposa fue nieta del ultimo Emperador Azteca,
Moctezuma." My attempts to find this have not been successful.

(2) This is apparently well documented. For example, see, AGI, Patronato,
245, R.5." This is a chart made in about 1574 that shows the descent of

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Sorry, I meant thank you George.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Armando wrote:

>
> Robert,
>
> Thank you for clarifying the records. I assumed one was the dispensa that
> had been mentioned on Nuestros Ranchos as well as another being the chart
> from PARES
>
> Regards,
> Armando
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Enviado por gpf13 el Vie, 2014-01-03 14:47.
>
> Some comments on these documents ...
>
> (1) This is apparently the reference in the Jaime Holcomb family group
> sheet for Lope Ruiz de Esparza: "Documentos proporcionados por el
> Licenciado Luis Lopez Martinez: Prueba de nobleza y limpieza de sangre
> hecha por el esposa en Aguascalientes con su ascendcia en Espana varias
> generacions, Historia familiar y muy escueta genealogia de la esposa - dice
> que la madre de la esposa fue nieta del ultimo Emperador Azteca,
> Moctezuma." My attempts to find this have not been successful.
>
> (2) This is

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Published by victorianonavarro (no verificado) – Sáb, 2012-10-06 15:34 | Enlace permanente

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I can't find the word Padres nor the notation you describe in the document. Is it written or printed? Below the surname of the priest (Mata) there is a drawing which is the rúbrica, some kind of personal drawing which may be part of one's signature. Nowadays many people use a rúbrica as their signature.
Victoriano Navarro