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hola a todos
alguien sabe como puedo encontrar el testamento
de francisco de sotelo esposo de clara jaen?

o alguien tiene los padres de francisco sotelo?

que relacion tiene francisco sotelo con los moctezuma?

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Hi Gary

His testament might be here:
http://eservicios.aguascalientes.gob.mx/seggob/acervodigital/notarial.a…

but I have never gotten the links to the actual documents to work...

If you try the links and they work for you, let me know. Maybe I am doing something wrong or its my computer. But there are lots of documents I'd like to read which are listed at this site.

Regards
Denise Fastrup

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Carlos Peredo

Hi Denis, Hi Gary

I think we are about to clarify some part of this family:

To start I just read the image of 1632 of the link you posted and it says the following :

…..en 22 días del mes de abril de 1632 años se murió Doña Francisca Sotelo, hizo una declaración amodo de testamento que passó ante Diego de Isla Heredia Juéz público de esta Ciudad; su fecha en 14 de este dicho mes y año. Manda su cuerpo sea enterrado en la Iglesia Cathedral de esta Cd. y que Don Juan sotelo Moctezuma haga bien pos su alma como se lo ha prometido por cuanto le perdona seicientos pesos que le debía su padre Don Fernando Sotelo Montezuma. Con cargo que de ellos de ciento a Juan que … para ayuda para criar una niña güerfana (sic) que deja encomendada por el amor que la dicha difunta le tenía…..

So now we know that Francisca was one of the ten children of Fernando Sotelo Moctezuma and Juan was surely her brother.

We can be sure also that she didn´t marry and had no children.

Now, I have

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Hi Carlos

I look forward to seeing the rest of the information you have on the family of Don Juan de Sotelo y Moctezuma. I have not found anything new since my last post.

Regards,
Denise

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Hi Gary and Edgar

I have not found a record of anyone in Aguascalientes with the surname combination Sotelo Montesuma. Earlier this year I was looking to find a clear connection between Petronila de Moctezuma and the Sotelos of Aguascalientes. I read in the Codex Chimalpahin (a tranlation - Codex Chimalpahin: Society and Politics in Mexico Tenochtitlan, Vol 1. p. 109 - 111) that Hernando Sotelo Montezuma, the son of Diego Arias Sotelo and Leonor Valderrama Moctezuma, had 10 children, of which five were listed in the Codex with their name:Diego,Leonor, Juan, Hernando, and Ana. The man who wrote the codex in 1619 said they were all Spanish because their mother was Spanish, and that the five unnamed children were living with their father in Michoacan. His wife was named Dona Maria Cervantes (from Andariegos y Pobladores - Nueva Espana and Nueva Galicia, by Jose Miguel Romero de Solis, entry for Fernando Sotelo Montezuma)

Maybe Francisco Sotelo was one of the unnmamed 5 children living

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Hola Edgar,

Aún no he encontrado el acta matrimonial de Francisco Sotelo y Clara de Jaén, pero como Francisco era originario de Zacatecas y Clara de Michoacán talvez se encuentre entre los archivos de Michoacán. Como sabes, se acostumbraba casarse en el pueblo o ciudad donde vivía la novia (pretensa). Francisco y Clara se casaron ca.1634 y tuvieron varios hijos, de los cuales he logrado identificar a los siguientes: 1) Elena 2) Antonio 3) Francisca 4) Juana 5) Juan y 6) María Sotelo de Jaén. Elena nació en Michoacán al igual que Antonio. Todos los demás nacieron en Aguascalientes. Tanto Francisco Sotelo como Clara de Jaén fueron sepultados en Aguascalientes el 8 de octubre de 1669 y el 3 de marzo de 1683 respectivamente. Desconozco si existió alguna relación o parentesco entre Francisco Sotelo y Diego Arias de Sotelo.

Saludos

BILL FIGUEROA

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Hi Bill,

You have some details which are new for me, therefore I was wondering if you could post the links to the sources for:
1. Francisco identified as a native of Zacatecas
2. Clara identified as a native of Michoacan
3. Birth of Elena
4. Birth of Antonio

Every once in a while I tackle the old books from Michoacan, but the writing from the 1500s and early 1600's is really a challenge. Plus, the records are sometimes mixed up in terms of subject. So I was wondering if you could provide links to images for the above four people mentioned in your recent reply. Even with known dates, I think it would take me just about forever to find them myself!

Regards,
Denise