Some of the names of the ranches in Jalisco are rather interesting. My grandfather was identified as being from La Jabonera, San Juan de los Lagos when he married. I looked up the definition of La Jabonera and it means soapdish. I then saw on Google Maps that there was a La Jabonera in San Juan de Los Lagos, as well as Lagos de Moreno. This left me confused, because an aunt once told me our Campos family had land in Lagos de Moreno, yet christening/wedding records say La Jabonera, San Juan de Los Lagos. Did the people of Lagos de Moreno use the church in San Juan de Los Lagos? Also, does anybody know why a ranch would have a name like soapdish? I would love to figure out which is the right ranch and view it using Google Maps.
Alice
There is book entitled "Haciendas of Mexico," published in 1886 that names the principal haciendas by state, along with the owner/proprietor, and the town where it is located.
The introduction is in English, and the rest of the book is just tables.
The book can be downloaded as a pdf from www.archive.org.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
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There's a Jabonera in the municipio of San Juan de Los Lagos, population: 9
It's mapped here: http://www.microrregiones.gob.mx/catloc/contenido.aspx?refnac=140730282
This is a very handy website: http://www.microrregiones.gob.mx/catloc/Default.aspx
I posted this website earlier this year, which I prefer above all the other map search engines because this lists any and all populated areas in Mexico whether they are still populated or no longer active. I also like it because you search by name, rather than hunt around on a map. Maybe I'll make a separate post for it because it really is helpful.
This government site is excellent for looking up the locations of towns & ranchos including those *that may no longer exist*. You can find non-existent or very small, unmapped towns/ranchos by clicking first on the name of the state, then municipality, then on the name of the town/rancho you're looking for, and whether it's currently active or no longer inhabited, it will be listed
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Luis Arturo Huerta Rodrìguez
Hi Alice!
There is another ranch named "La Jabonera" in Nochistlán, Zac. About 80km from San Juan. My mother was born there.
Now you say it, I realize I hadn't investigate what signifies the name, I live in México and for me it may signify soap store or soap factory more than soapdish.
Greetings!!
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There was a time when the two major industries in Nochistlan were soap making and shoemakers.
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Luis Arturo Huerta Rodrìguez
Hi Alice!
There is another ranch named "La Jabonera" in Nochistlán, Zac. About 80km from San Juan. My mother was born there.
Now you say it, I realize I hadn't investigate what signifies the name, I live in México and for me it may signify soap store or soap factory more than soapdish.
Greetings!!
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Hello Alice,
I do a lot of research for Lagos de Moreno which is where my family is
from. I don't remember ever seeing the hacienda La Jabonera mentioned in
records from Lagos de Moreno and it isn't in the books I have or PDF
documents I have. I don't see it as being in Lagos de Moreno on Google Maps
or PueblosAmerica http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/jalisco/lagos-de-moreno/
What did you use for the search in Google Maps? I have only seen La
Jabonera mentioned in the records for San Juan de Los Lagos and
PueblosAmerica
http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/jalisco/san-juan-de-los-lagos/
I have asked cousins and uncles that still live in Lagos where certain
ranches are but they aren't familiar with all of them, even though they
live there, which is why I had to use the books, PDFs, and PueblosAmerica
site.
Lagos de Moreno and San Juan de Los Lagos share a border and sometimes
people that lived in one city had land in the adjacent city. I do know that
my father, aunts, and uncles from
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There is another Jabonera near my parents hometown of El Bajio de San Jose, Jalisco which is in the municipio de Encarnacion de Diaz. My Dad told me that they used to make soap there and that is why it was named Jabonera.
Austin Perez
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Jabonera also means Soap Factory, so it may be a town next to such enterprise as Austin said. Some time ago we discussed a place called La Fábrica which turned to be next to a textile factory:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16791
Regards
Victoriano Navarro
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I have MA Delores Franco Campos who was baptized (1880) and married (1898) at San Juan Batista in San Juan de Los Lagos. I don't know if this is the same Campos family, or if it's of any help to you, but I do have siblings, parents, etc. all in San Juan de Los Lagos with some documents from the church records archived by Family Search.
You can contact me directly if you wish. Alejandro
AJB
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Thank you Armando. I have seen the mother of MA Delores Franco Campos written as both Rosalia Martín del Campo & Rosalia Campos, and wasn't entirely sure about the inconsistnecy before.
MA Delores Franco Campos married Ramon Becerra Ledesma, and I believe they were my great-grandparents.
AJB
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