Hello, I am trying to decipher the difference in the following abbreviations, or if they actually mean the same thing just written differently?
These are all in three different baptism records I am trying to figure out:
Ps (sorry, the "s" is supposed to be written as an exponent character, but can't find that option on my keyboard)
P. nos
P.P.
I know P.s is for padrinos, and P is for padre, but trying to figure out these other ones and how they all fit in.
If anyone can help, I would be most grateful.
Thank you!
Ok, great! thank you. Appreciate the help!
I thought that might be it, but was not sure.
Kristine
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P.P. is definitely Padrinos in many of the records I've looked at. I suspect P.nos is also padrinos, but it would be helpful to see it in context.
Incidentally, some abbreviations I've often seen mistaken or un-noticed:
7bre = Septiembre (September used to be the 7th month, when the year began in March)
Some reseachers have mistaken the 7 for an F and concluded Febrero but it really is 7bre.
8bre = Octubre
9bre = Nobiembre
M (in the margin of the record) = Mujer, often the only clear indication of gender.
H (in the margin of the record) = Hombre ... frequently seen in christening records.
Stuart Armstrong
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Hello Stuart, Thank you for your response. Here are the links for the three records I am looking at. All three have Bernardo Roman for the father and two have Ysavel Ortis and the last one has Ysavel Leogarda.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15048-14522-68?cc=1804458&wc… Bottom right of the page, second to the bottom for Joseph Roman-father Bernardo Roman
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15280-10707-55?cc=1804458&wc… Bottom left of the page, last entry. For Josepha Crestina Roman, father Bernardo Roman
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15048-13156-70
Bottom left hand of the page, last entry. For Joseph Bicente Roman, father Bernardo Roman.
Kristine
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Yes, I'm convinced those are padrinos in all three records. The order is often important - scribes usually wrote the details in the same order each time. Also, the phrase "á quién(es) adbertí su(s) obligación(es) y parentesco espiritual" is also a clue that it's talking about the godparents and their obligations.
Stuart Armstrong
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Hi there,
This site https://script.byu.edu/Pages/Spanish/en/abbrPtoT.aspx is very helpful in deciphering some of the documents I come across. Hope it helps!
-Erika
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Erica, thank you for the link. I have used that site before, and it is helpful. It's a good tool to have. The abbreviations I am looking for are not all on there though.
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Padrinos