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I have looked and looked, and I cannot find the marriage record for Agustin Gonzalez and Maria Josefa Montoya. FamilySearch gives the marriage date as 28 February 1783. There are no certificates with that date. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTQ7-V7F?i=57&wc=M6QF-L68%…
So I thought maybe it's recorded a few days later. But now I have looked twice through all of 1783, 1782 and 1784. No luck.

Maybe I am just missing it. Help!

Daniel

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Vie, 2016-09-23 14:53 | Enlace permanente

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Simon Ruiz de Esparza b. Before 1495 and Graciana Vici (Huici) are the parents of Martin Ruiz de Esparza

Martin Ruiz de Esparza y Vici (Huici), señor del palacio de Esparza (Galar), vecino de Pamplona and Maria de Espinosa (Spinosa) are the parents of Lope Ruiz de Esparza (el viejo)

,Lope Ruiz de Esparza, abogado de las Audiencias Reales, señor de los palacios de Esparza (Galar) y Zariquiegui vecino de Pamplona and Ana Diez de Eguino. They have a son named Lope Ruiz de Esparza

Lope Ruiz de Esparza ( b.1569 d.14 Aug 1651 in Mexico, Distrito Federal) and Ana Francisca Gabai Moctezuma are the parents of Pedro Ruiz de Esparza.

Pedro Ruiz de Esparza and Juana Lozano are the parents of Juan Ruiz de Esparza

Juan Ruiz de Esparza and Rosa Martin de Sotomayor are the parents of Maria de los Dolores Esparza

Maria de Los Dolores Esparza and Cayetano Duron are third cousins.

Rick A. Ricci, book: mygenes2000

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Dear Daniel,

Here is a little more on the first Esparza to come over. His brother also came over but his name was in some records that I lost. I never did have any descendants for the brother. The brother did not come over at the same time.

Lope Ruiz de Esparza crossed the Atlantic on Feb. 8, 1593, as a bachelor & servant of Enrique Maleon. Don Enrique de Manleon, son of Don Miguel de Navarra y Manleon and Doña María Magdalena de Goñi.
(#2.633, III-163, Vol. VII 1586-1599)

Rick A. Ricci, book mygenes2000

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Jue, 2016-09-22 23:29 | Enlace permanente

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Possible?

Agustin Gonzales
Mexico Baptisms
Name Agustin Gonzales
Gender Male
Christening Date 15 Sep 1675
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO, AUTLAN DE NAVARRO, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name Antonio Gonzales
Mother's Name Catalina Agustina
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBRW-JRS : 2 January 2015), Agustin Gonzales, 15 Sep 1675; citing EL SAGRARIO, AUTLAN DE NAVARRO, JALISCO, MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 655,559.

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Daniel

I found your marriage record! It is on images 200 and 201, and is located with 1785 records.

The reason it is not with the rest of 1783 is because it is part of the records of the chapel at the Hacienda of Cieneguilla. Often the records from a chapel are included at the end of records for a given month of the main church, but for some reason these were elsewhere in the volume.

George

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Jue, 2016-09-22 20:58 | Enlace permanente

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Juan Gutierrez Duron is married to Teresa del Castillo on 5/Nov 1665, they are the parents of Esteban Gutierrez Duron b. 1667

Esteban Duron is married in 8/Jan/1689 toJuana Montañez in Aguascalientes. They have a son named Cayetano Duron

Cayetano Duron married Maria de los Dolores Esparza. They are the parents of Juana Gertrudis Duron

Juana Gertrudis Duron is married to Christoval Montoys

A different branch of the family used Duran instead of Duron.

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Jue, 2016-09-22 21:35 | Enlace permanente

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Andres Martin Camacho b.1577 and Maria Ruelas b.1589 are the parents of Maria Sotomayor

Juan Montañes b. 1575 and Ana Vicente b. Bat 1580 are the parents of Juan Montañez

Juan Montañez b. 1599 and Maria Sotomayor are the parents of Bernabe Montañes b. 1650

Bernabe Montañes b.1650 and Isabel Carillo b.1655 are the parents of a daughter named Juana Montañes Carillo b.1673

Juana Montañes Carillo is married to Esteban Duron b. 1668 and they have a son named Cayetano Duron b.1690

Cayetano Duron is married to Maria de los Dolores Esparsa and they have a daughter named Juana Gertrudis Duron

Juana Gertrudis Duron is married to Christoval Montoya (Montolla) and they have a daughter named Maria Josefa Montoya who is married to Agustin Gonzalez

Good Luck,
Rick A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Jue, 2016-09-22 19:06 | Enlace permanente

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Here are some more

Cayetano Duron and Maria de los Dolores Esparza

Cayetano Duron
Father
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979
spouse: Maria de los Dolores
child: Jpha Rosalia de la Trind Duron

Cayetano Duron
mentioned in the record of Pedro Nolasco Duron Esparza
Name Cayetano Duron
Gender Male
Wife Maria De Los Dolores Esparza
Son Pedro Nolasco Duron Esparza
Other information in the record of Pedro Nolasco Duron Esparza
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Pedro Nolasco Duron Esparza
Gender Male
Christening Date 02 Feb 1736
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Cayetano Duron
Mother's Name Maria De Los Dolores Esparza
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK2Y-SY6 : 12 December 2014), Cayetano Duron in entry for Pedro Nolasco Duron Esparza, 02 Feb 1736; citing EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,427.

Gender Male
Wife

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Here is the marriage record of a Nicloas de Montoya (Montolla) and Lugarda Garcia

Image 98 out of 445
Film # 299824

Name Nicolas De Montoia
Spouse's Name Lugarda Garcia
Event Date 13 Oct 1709
Event Place El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHPY-Z9Q : 14 July 2015), Nicolas De Montoia and Lugarda Garcia, 13 Oct 1709; citing El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,824.

Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Jue, 2016-09-22 18:48 | Enlace permanente

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Dear Daniel,

Here are some records that you may want. Christoval Montoy's father is Nicolas de Montolla and his mother is Lugarda Garcia. Juana Gertrudis Duran is the daughter of Cayetano Duran (Duron?) and Maria de los Dolores.

Good luck,
Rick A. Ricci

Christoval Montolla
Spouse's Name Juana Getrudis Duron
Event Date 25 Mar 1743
Event Place Cienega De Mata,Ojuelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Nicolas De Montolla
Mother's Name Lugarda Garcia
Spouse's Father's Name Cayetano Duron
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria De Los Dolores
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCZJ-YHB : 15 July 2015), Christoval Montolla and Juana Getrudis Duron, 25 Mar 1743; citing Cienega De Mata,Ojuelos,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 641,015
Name Petra Sebastiana Gonzales
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Mar 1767
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Antonio Gonzales
Mother's Name

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Daniel

The record must be in the film, somewhere. Perhaps the pages are elsewhere in the film.

There is a matrimonial investigation for this couple dated February 15, 1783, in Aguascalientes. This record begins at image 156, and names parents: Antonio Gonzalez and Maria del Carmen Augustina de Roxas, and Cristobal Montoya and Juana Duran.

George Fulton