I am researching the Escamilla family of Jalisco and the Noriega family from Zacatecas.
Jose Paulin Escamilla was born about 1740, Marriage records show that he was born in Ayo el Chico or La Barca, Jalisco. His parents are Juan Manuel de Escamilla Maria Perez I have not been a able to find his birth record.
Pablo Noriega son of Joseph Laureno Noriego and Maria de los Nieves Rodarte married Marcelina Urista daughter of Juan Miguel Urista and Antonia Palencia lived in Noria de Angeles, Zacatecas.
Any information that would help me with my research would be greatly appreciated.
Virginia
Dear Virginia,
It may help you to search with Maria Perez’s full name She is also known as Maria Quiteria Perez and Maria Quiteria De Alfaro. The Perez surname comes from her mother. Here are some records of this this family:
Juan Manuel Escamilla Lomelin
Gender	Male
Christening Date	19 Jul 1711
Christening Place	NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Nicolas De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Michaela De Lomelin
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB94-FS4 : 10 February 2018), Juan Manuel Escamilla Lomelin, 19 Jul 1711; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,254.
Bisente Ferrel Escamilla Peres
Gender	Male
Christening Date	02 Apr 1729
Christening Place	SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Jn. De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Quiteria Peres
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGNL-RXM : 11 February 2018), Jn. De Escamilla in entry for Bisente Ferrel Escamilla Peres, 02 Apr 1729; citing SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,670
Juana Getrudis Escamilla
Gender	Female
Christening Date	20 May 1731
Christening Place	SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Juan Manuel Escamilla
Mother's Name	Quitheria Maria
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBV4-QSW : 11 February 2018), Juan Manuel Escamilla in entry for Juana Getrudis Escamilla, 20 May 1731; citing SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,670
Juan Manuel Escamilla
gender	Male
Wife	Maria Quiteria Peres
Daughter	Juana Gertrudis Escamilla
Other information in the record of Franco. Macias and Juana Gertrudis Escamilla
from Mexico Marriages
Name	Franco. Macias
Spouse's Name	Juana Gertrudis Escamilla
Event Date	29 Feb 1756
Event Place	San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name	Macias
Mother's Name	Gertrudis Chaves
Spouse's Father's Name	Juan Manuel Escamilla
Spouse's Mother's Name	Maria Quiteria Peres
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDL-RFT : 10 February 2018), Juan Manuel Escamilla in entry for Franco. Macias and Juana Gertrudis Escamilla, 29 Feb 1756; citing San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,787.
	Joseph Buenaventura Escamilla Alfaro
Gender	Male
Christening Date	02 Jul 1742
Christening Place	SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Juan Manuel Escamilla
Mother's Name	Juana Quiteria Alfaro
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMX4-N2N : 11 February 2018), Joseph Buenaventura Escamilla Alfaro, 02 Jul 1742; citing SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,670.
	Joseph Vicente Escamilla
Spouse's Name	Maria De La Luz Garsia
Event Date	30 Jul 1760
Event Place	San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name	Juan De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Maria Quiteria De Alfaro
Spouse's Father's Name	Juan Christoval Garzia
Spouse's Mother's Name	Maria Antonia Barrera
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDP-6NF : 10 February 2018), Joseph Vicente Escamilla and Maria De La Luz Garsia, 30 Jul 1760; citing San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,787.
Here is Juan Manuel and Maria Quiteria’s marriage record:
Juan Manuel De Escamilla
Spouse's Name	Maria Quiteria De Alfaro
Event Date	08 Oct 1727
Event Place	San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name	Nicolas Joseph De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Micaela De Lomeli
Spouse's Father's Name	Juan De Alfaro
Spouse's Mother's Name	Juana Peres
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDL-FGK : 10 February 2018), Juan Manuel De Escamilla and Maria Quiteria De Alfaro, 08 Oct 1727; citing San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,786
Good luck on your research,
Rick A. Ricci
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Here is Juan Manuel Escamilla’s baptismal record:
Juan Manuel Escamilla Lomelin
Gender	Male
Christening Date	19 Jul 1711
Christening Place	NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Nicolas De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Michaela De Lomelin
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB94-FSH : 10 February 2018), Nicolas De Escamilla in entry for Juan Manuel Escamilla Lomelin, 19 Jul 1711; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,254
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Here is the marriage record of Juan d’ Alfaro and Juana Perez:
	Juan De Alfaro
Spouse's Name	Juana Peres
Event Date	03 Nov 1694
Event Place	San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name	Pedro Briseno
Mother's Name	Augustina De Alfaro
Spouse's Father's Name	Manuel Peres
Spouse's Mother's Name	Maria De Estrada
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHGY-876 : 10 February 2018), Juan De Alfaro and Juana Peres, 03 Nov 1694; citing San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico, reference 2:26WLMN5; FHL microfilm 280,814
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Nicolas Briseno Alfaro
Gender	Male
Christening Date	07 Nov 1682
Christening Place	SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Pedro Briseno
Mother's Name	Augustina De Alfaro
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKQS-ZQY : 10 February 2018), Augustina De Alfaro in entry for Nicolas Briseno Alfaro, 07 Nov 1682; citing SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,669.
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Rick thanks for the information, you have a lot of information on this family. Is this one of the families you are researching?
I do feel this is the family I am looking for, but I was still hoping to find Jose Paulin’s birth record. The information you provided explains the Alfaro/Perez connection, I was looking for Maria Perez and she was listed as Alfaro in the records. His 3 marriage records in Guanajuato showed his place of birth as Ayo el Chico, and La Barca, Jalisco, that could have meant a connection to La Barca.
Thanks,
Virginia
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Dear Virginia,
I used the information that you provided to research this family. I also found a marriage record that you may want to study.
	Juan Manuel De Escamilla
Spouse's Name	Maria Quiteria De Alfaro
Event Date	08 Oct 1727
Event Place	San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name	Nicolas Joseph De Escamilla
Mother's Name	Micaela De Lomeli
Spouse's Father's Name	Juan De Alfaro
Spouse's Mother's Name	Juana Peres
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDL-FG5 : 10 February 2018), Micaela De Lomeli in entry for Juan Manuel De Escamilla and Maria Quiteria De Alfaro, 08 Oct 1727; citing San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,786.
Here is the baptismal record that may help you:
Name	Joseph Domingo Escamilla Guebara
Gender	Male
Christening Date	15 May 1783
Christening Place	SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name	Joseph Paulin Escamilla
Mother's Name	Maria Josepha De Guebara
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1YG-Z6F : 10 February 2018), Joseph Paulin Escamilla in entry for Joseph Domingo Escamilla Guebara, 15 May 1783; citing SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,526.
I know two of Jose Paulin Escamilla’s wives, Theodora Ramona Aguirre and Maria Josepha Ladron De Guevara. I don't know the name of his third wife. I couldn’t figure out the name of the third wife.
I didn’t find Jose Paulin Escamilla’s record. You stated his birth was 1740. Try looking through baptismal records in Ayo el Chico for the year 1738.
I found a baptismal record for Joseph Paulin Escamilla’s brother:
	Joseph Buenaventura Escamilla Alfaro
Gender	Male
Christening Date	02 Jul 1742
Christening Place	SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name	Juan Manuel Escamilla
Mother's Name	Juana Quiteria Alfaro
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMX4-N2N : 11 February 2018), Joseph Buenaventura Escamilla Alfaro, 02 Jul 1742; citing SAN AGUSTIN,AYO EL CHICO,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 280,670.
I’m glad I was able to help you.  I have done much research in the Ayo el Chico, Jalisco area.
Good luck on your research,
Rick
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Rick,
I have looked in that time frame and found many of his siblings.  I will revisit my notes and records to if I missed something.  His third wife was Ygnacia Yzquera, they married in 1812.
  These are the microfilms I used to get my information.  I may never find his birth record, but you gave me a lot of information to work with.  Thanks so much   Virginia  
Marriage of  Jose Paulin Escamilla and Theodora Ramona Navarro, 2 Sept 1772, Nuestra Sra de Guanajuato, microfilm 799478, image 321.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GFR-B5R?i=320&wc=3V4T…
1.	 Death of Theodora Ramona Navarro, 26 May 1778, Santa Fe, Guanajuato, microfilm 645071, image 556.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG6H-QDC?i=555&wc=3V44…
2.	  Marriage of Jose Paulin Escamilla and Maria Josefa Nino Ladron de Guevara, 3 Dec 1778, Santa Fe, Guanajuato, microfilm 0668902, image 36.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GKB-9NCX?i=35&wc=3VHH…
3.	 Marriage investigation of Jose Paulin Escamilla and Maria Josefa Nino Ladron de Guevara, 18 Nov 1778, Santa Fe,  Guanajuato, microfilm 642381, image 151
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG8B-447?i=150&wc=3V4S…
4.	 Death of Maria Josefa Nino Ladron de Guevara, 22 Feb 1809, Santa Fe, Guanajuato, microfilm 645073, image 601.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9G64-VPV?i=600&wc=3V4W…
5.	 Marriage of Jose Paulin Escamilla and Ygnacia Yzquera, 27 Jan 1812, Nuestra Sra de Guanajuato, microfilm 799480, image 158.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGFM-9MX2?i=157&wc=3V4…
6.	 Marriage of Jose Paulin Escamilla with Ygnacia Yzquera, 11 Jan 1812, Nuestra Sra de Guanajuato, microfilm 792335, images 26-29.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GFQ-T5K?i=25&wc=3V4G-…
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Dear Virginia,
Here are records of your Noriega family that are found in San Luis Potosí and not Zacatecas:
Pablo Jose Noriega
Spouse's Name	Maria Marcelina Urista
Event Date	16 Feb 1800
Event Place	La Purisima Concepcion,Catorce,San Luis Potosi,Mexico
Father's Name	Jose Laureano Noriega
Mother's Name	Maria De Las Nieves Rodarte
Spouse's Father's Name	Juan Miguel Urista
Spouse's Mother's Name	Antonia Palencia
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZQF-LC5 : 10 February 2018), Juan Miguel Urista in entry for Pablo Jose Noriega and Maria Marcelina Urista, 16 Feb 1800; citing La Purisima Concepcion,Catorce,San Luis Potosi,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 707,542.
Name	Joseph Alexo Noriega
Gender	Male
Christening Date	01 Aug 1790
Christening Place	LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION,CATORCE,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO
Father's Name	Joseph Laureano Noriega
Mother's Name	Maria De Las Nieves
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLKF-4Z2 : 11 February 2018), Joseph Laureano Noriega in entry for Joseph Alexo Noriega, 01 Aug 1790; citing LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION,CATORCE,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 707,501
Glad I could help,
Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci
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