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Joseph,

 

You are correct. At least in our family this is how we still call our grandparents and great-grandparents. My mom is to my children an abuela, to my grandchildren a bis-abuela and if my grandchildren were to have children, my mom would be a tatarabuela to them.

 

Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, CA

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:



Emilie Garcia wrote:


OK, then, Joseph,

 

How do you write and pronounce all those subsequent generations:   primera, secunda, tercera,  (I don't know how to say the rest).  Also, why is pentabuelo listed as antepasado de 6th generation when "pent" means "five" to me.  It looks like the pentabuelo should go with "5th". 
well if you look at it in the Spanish the father is the first generation, the grandfather is the 1st grandfather but the 2nd generation, the g-Grandfather is the 2nd grandfather (Bis) but the 3rd generation, the GG grandfather is the 3rd grandfather (Tatara) but the 4th generation, etc.

I would like more feedback from the group is these designations are being currently used in Mexico? I mean I talked with Luz Montejano and she seemed to indicate that this was the old style and not in current use. Then again maybe I didn't quite understand correctly.

joseph




Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA --


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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 5:04 PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] PLACING RELATIVES


my email address is makas@... but just call me Joseph because makas means scissors and isn't my name.

As far as I know there isn't any generally accepted alternative to the Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Great Great Grandfather, etc designations.

there is this in spanish:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm

1.   Padre
2.   Abuelo, antepasado de 2ª generación
3.   Bisabuelo o Segundo abuelo, antepasado de 3ª generación
4.   Tatarabuelo o Tercer  abuelo o Trasbisabuelo o Transbisabuelo o
      Rebisabuelo o Trasabuelo o Tresabuelo, antepasado de 4ª generación
5.   Trastatarabuelo o Cuadriabuelo o Cuatriabuelo o Chozno, antepasado de 5ª generación
6.   Pentabuelo, antepasado de 6ª generación

face="Times New Roman,Times">7.   Hexabuelo, antepasado de 7ª generación

8.   Heptabuelo, antepasado de 8ª generación
9.   Octabuelo, antepasado de 9ª generación
10. Eneabuelo o Nonabuelo, antepasado de 10ª generación
11. Decabuelo, antepasado de 11ª generación

joseph


lili pinzon wrote:

 DEAR MAKAS:

  IS THERE A SYSTEM OTHER THEN USING THE "GREAT" WORD TO NUMBER 

 SITUATION IN THE LINE? WOULD IT BE CORRECT, INSTEAD, TO NUMBER AS

  FALLOWS: SON, FATHER-MOTHER, GRANDPARENTS, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, AND

 THEN MENTION THEM AS THIRD-GRANDPARENTS, FOURTH-GRANDPARENTS AND

 SO FORTH? I THINK THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO VIEW THEIR PLACES IN THE

 GENS LINE.

                                  LETICIA LEON MORALES
                                  AKA LILI PINZON





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Emilie Garcia wrote:


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OK, then, Joseph,
 
How do you write and pronounce all those subsequent
generations:   primera, secunda, tercera,  (I don't know how to say the
rest).  Also, why is pentabuelo listed as antepasado de 6th generation
when "pent" means "five" to me.  It looks like the pentabuelo should go
with "5th". 

well if you look at it in the Spanish the father is the first
generation, the grandfather is the 1st grandfather but the 2nd
generation, the g-Grandfather is the 2nd grandfather (Bis) but the 3rd
generation, the GG grandfather is the 3rd grandfather (Tatara) but the
4th generation, etc.



I would like more feedback from the group is these designations are
being currently used in Mexico? I mean I talked with Luz Montejano and
she seemed to indicate that this was the old style and not in current
use. Then again maybe I didn't quite understand correctly.



joseph



cite="">
Thanks,
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --

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Re: [ranchos] PLACING RELATIVES

my email address is
title="mailto:makas@..." href="mailto:makas@...">makas@...

but just call me Joseph because makas means scissors and isn't
my name.



As far as I know there isn't any generally accepted alternative to the
Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Great Great Grandfather, etc
designations.



there is this in spanish:




title="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm"
href="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm">http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm

1.   Padre

2.   Abuelo, antepasado de
color="#ff0000">2ª generación


3.   Bisabuelo o Segundo
abuelo, antepasado de 3ª generación



4.   Tatarabuelo o Tercer 
abuelo o Trasbisabuelo o Transbisabuelo o


      Rebisabuelo o
Trasabuelo o Tresabuelo, antepasado de
generación


5.   Trastatarabuelo o
Cuadriabuelo o Cuatriabuelo o Chozno, antepasado de
color="#ff0000">5ª generación


6.   Pentabuelo, antepasado
de 6ª generación


7.   Hexabuelo, antepasado de
7ª generación


8.   Heptabuelo, antepasado
de 8ª generación


9.   Octabuelo, antepasado de
9ª generación


10. Eneabuelo o Nonabuelo,
antepasado de 10ª generación


11. Decabuelo, antepasado de
color="#ff0000">11ª generación

joseph





lili pinzon wrote:

 DEAR MAKAS:

  IS THERE A SYSTEM OTHER THEN USING THE "GREAT" WORD TO NUMBER 

 SITUATION IN THE LINE? WOULD IT BE CORRECT, INSTEAD, TO NUMBER AS

  FALLOWS: SON, FATHER-MOTHER, GRANDPARENTS, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, AND

 THEN MENTION THEM AS THIRD-GRANDPARENTS, FOURTH-GRANDPARENTS AND

 SO FORTH? I THINK THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO VIEW THEIR PLACES IN THE

 GENS LINE.

                                  LETICIA LEON MORALES
                                  AKA LILI PINZON





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OK, then, Joseph,

 

How do you write and pronounce all those subsequent
generations:   primera, secunda, tercera,  (I don't know how to
say the rest).  Also, why is pentabuelo listed as antepasado de 6th
generation when "pent" means "five" to me.  It looks like the pentabuelo
should go with "5th".  I did like the list though since it tells me what
comes after abuelo and bisabuelo, etc which I didn't know before.

 

Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA --


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----- Original Message -----



Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 5:04
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] PLACING
RELATIVES


my email address is title=mailto:makas@... href="mailto:makas@...">makas@...r.com
but just call me Joseph because makas means scissors and isn't my
name.

As far as I know there isn't any generally accepted alternative
to the Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Great Great Grandfather, etc
designations.

there is this in spanish:


class=moz-txt-link-freetext
title=http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm
href="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm">http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7215/generaciones.htm


1.   Padre

2.   Abuelo, antepasado de
2ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">3.   Bisabuelo o Segundo abuelo,
antepasado de 3ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">4.   Tatarabuelo o Tercer  abuelo
o Trasbisabuelo o Transbisabuelo o


face="Times New Roman,Times">      Rebisabuelo o
Trasabuelo o Tresabuelo, antepasado de
generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">5.   Trastatarabuelo o Cuadriabuelo o
Cuatriabuelo o Chozno, antepasado de
generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">6.   Pentabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>6ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">7.   Hexabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>7ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">8.   Heptabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>8ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">9.   Octabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>9ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">10. Eneabuelo o Nonabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>10ª generación


face="Times New Roman,Times">11. Decabuelo, antepasado de
color=#ff0000>11ª generación

joseph


lili
pinzon wrote:

 DEAR MAKAS:

  IS THERE A SYSTEM OTHER THEN USING THE "GREAT" WORD TO NUMBER 

 SITUATION IN THE LINE? WOULD IT BE CORRECT, INSTEAD, TO NUMBER AS

  FALLOWS: SON, FATHER-MOTHER, GRANDPARENTS, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, AND

 THEN MENTION THEM AS THIRD-GRANDPARENTS, FOURTH-GRANDPARENTS AND

 SO FORTH? I THINK THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO VIEW THEIR PLACES IN THE

 GENS LINE.

                                  LETICIA LEON MORALES
                                  AKA LILI PINZON





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