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color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Felipe and Rancheros, :)
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color=#0000ff size=2> My dad's family was mainly
from Jalostotitlan, and my mother's family was from Jalostotitlan & San Juan
de los Lagos. My maternal grandmother was a Padilla like just about
everyone in San Juan. Her family was from the following ranchos:
Potrero de en Medio, El Tule, La Estancia Vieja, etc., I still need to do
more research.
from Jalostotitlan, and my mother's family was from Jalostotitlan & San Juan
de los Lagos. My maternal grandmother was a Padilla like just about
everyone in San Juan. Her family was from the following ranchos:
Potrero de en Medio, El Tule, La Estancia Vieja, etc., I still need to do
more research.
color=#0000ff size=2> I used to visit my maternal grandparents
every 5 years, and we would stay with them in San Juan. My grandparent's
"city" home was just about 3 blocks from the Basilica--Calle
Primavera. I have many fond memories. The cantor at the Basilica is
a relative, and my godmother also lives near the Centro Camionera--Bus
Station.
every 5 years, and we would stay with them in San Juan. My grandparent's
"city" home was just about 3 blocks from the Basilica--Calle
Primavera. I have many fond memories. The cantor at the Basilica is
a relative, and my godmother also lives near the Centro Camionera--Bus
Station.
color=#0000ff size=2> Everyone's relative's memories of the
Cristiada have been interesting. My parents were very young, but also have
memories of the event. On my last visit to Los Altos almost 3 years ago,
my father pointed out two very tall hills which surrounded his family
ranch. He told me that he recalled laying on his stomach while the two
factions shot at each other from the two hills. They shot over my dad's
family ranch, La Parada (Jalostotitlan). He also recalls the Government
stringing up an older brother for hanging. Due to his sister's wailing and
pleading, they changed their mind about hanging him. Maybe because he was
such a small boy, he doesn't have any bitterness about the whole
thing. They never left their ranches. Both of my
folks remember both factions coming to their ranches and asking for
supplies which were given to both sides. They both say that they were
fortunate in that the women in both sides of the family were very young.
Others not so lucky had to hide their daughters. This very religious
devout Catholic did blame both sides fro the war.
Cristiada have been interesting. My parents were very young, but also have
memories of the event. On my last visit to Los Altos almost 3 years ago,
my father pointed out two very tall hills which surrounded his family
ranch. He told me that he recalled laying on his stomach while the two
factions shot at each other from the two hills. They shot over my dad's
family ranch, La Parada (Jalostotitlan). He also recalls the Government
stringing up an older brother for hanging. Due to his sister's wailing and
pleading, they changed their mind about hanging him. Maybe because he was
such a small boy, he doesn't have any bitterness about the whole
thing. They never left their ranches. Both of my
folks remember both factions coming to their ranches and asking for
supplies which were given to both sides. They both say that they were
fortunate in that the women in both sides of the family were very young.
Others not so lucky had to hide their daughters. This very religious
devout Catholic did blame both sides fro the war.
color=#0000ff size=2> On a side, the martyr, now Santo Pedro
Esqueda did perform the marriage of my grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos,
Feb 22, 1922 before his horrible torture and death.
Esqueda did perform the marriage of my grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos,
Feb 22, 1922 before his horrible torture and death.
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href="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/saints/ns_lit_doc_20000521_esqueda-ramirez_sp.html">http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/saints/ns_lit_doc_20000521_esqueda-ramirez_sp.html
href="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/saints/ns_lit_doc_20000521_esqueda-ramirez_sp.html">http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/saints/ns_lit_doc_20000521_esqueda-ramirez_sp.html
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color=#0000ff size=2>Any relation to the above Saint?
color=#0000ff size=2>
color=#0000ff size=2>Irma
From: felipe hermosillo
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:35
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] The
Cristero Rebellion
Hi Steven,
I didn't receive the power point presentation but I'm very interested in
having a copy. I don't know know how big the file is but that
could be the reason. I definitely would like to have a copy. How big
is the file?. If it is too big, perhaps you zip it or could you put
it on CD and mail it? I'm also interested in having a
copy of your thesis.
having a copy. I don't know know how big the file is but that
could be the reason. I definitely would like to have a copy. How big
is the file?. If it is too big, perhaps you zip it or could you put
it on CD and mail it? I'm also interested in having a
copy of your thesis.
I've always been interested in La Revolucion
Cristera. You see, I'm from San Juan de los Lagos,
Jalisco, and Los Altos de Jalisco was where many if not the most
important battles took place. My father was just small boy during that war
and when I was young growing up in Mexico, he always used to talk to
us about how his father yelled at the soldiers "Viva Cristo
Rey" when the soldiers were coming into town and my grandmother used to get all
scared. My mother also talks about how during "La
Concentracion" (this is the time during La Revolucion Cristera when all
young adults and men were required to report to the authorities so the
government would have control over its enemies, Los Cristeros) her father
was taken away by the soldiers and put in a quartel so the government
would have control of any potential enemy. During this time the soldiers
took ov! er churches and destroyed many of the records. This is one
of the reasons is difficult to find church records in many parts
of Los Altos de Jalisco.
Cristera. You see, I'm from San Juan de los Lagos,
Jalisco, and Los Altos de Jalisco was where many if not the most
important battles took place. My father was just small boy during that war
and when I was young growing up in Mexico, he always used to talk to
us about how his father yelled at the soldiers "Viva Cristo
Rey" when the soldiers were coming into town and my grandmother used to get all
scared. My mother also talks about how during "La
Concentracion" (this is the time during La Revolucion Cristera when all
young adults and men were required to report to the authorities so the
government would have control over its enemies, Los Cristeros) her father
was taken away by the soldiers and put in a quartel so the government
would have control of any potential enemy. During this time the soldiers
took ov! er churches and destroyed many of the records. This is one
of the reasons is difficult to find church records in many parts
of Los Altos de Jalisco.
A few years back my father opened a little Museo de La Revolucion
Cristera right in the center of town in San Juan de los Lagos.
Cristera right in the center of town in San Juan de los Lagos.
Anyway, I would love to have copies of both of your documents.if
possible
possible
Regards,
Felipe Hermosillo
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Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History
major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis
with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to
them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which
I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as
to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this
topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading
these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Hi all.
No wonder I can't find my grandfather's and great-grandfather's' birth, and marriage' records.
I suspected as such, that the rebellion had not only destroyed livestock, and taken , and burned land, but had also most likely destroyed records.
I can't find anything in the LDS archives, concerning them.
Once, many years ago, I thought I had happened on a micro- film, but the contents were a bit vague, and conflicting, as to my grandfather's parent's names.
Now I know for sure. What a horrid time that must've been, to have made my grand-father trek thousands of miles to a copper mining town in Arizona, and never look back.
A sad chapter in the hard-working and proud lives of some of the most valient, resourceful, and hard-working ranchers in Mexico.
Thanks.
Armando Lopez.
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felipe hermosillo <felherii@...> wrote:
Hi Steven,
I didn't receive the power point presentation but I'm very interested in having a copy. I don't know know how big the file is but that could be the reason. I definitely would like to have a copy. How big is the file?. If it is too big, perhaps you zip it or could you put it on CD and mail it? I'm also interested in having a copy of your thesis.
I've always been interested in La Revolucion Cristera. You see, I'm from San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, and Los Altos de Jalisco was where many if not the most important battles took place. My father was just small boy during that war and when I was young growing up in Mexico, he always used to talk to us about how his father yelled at the soldiers "Viva Cristo Rey" when the soldiers were coming into town and my grandmother used to get all scared. My mother also talks about how during "La Concentracion" (this is the time during La Revolucion Cristera when all young adults and men were required to report to the authorities so the government would have control over its enemies, Los Cristeros) her father was taken away by the soldiers and put in a quartel so the government would have control of any potential enemy. During this time the soldiers took over
churches and destroyed many of the records. This is one of the reasons is difficult to find church records in many parts of Los Altos de Jalisco.
A few years back my father opened a little Museo de La Revolucion Cristera right in the center of town in San Juan de los Lagos.
Anyway, I would love to have copies of both of your documents.if possible
Regards,
Felipe Hermosillo
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Hi Steven,
I didn't receive the power point presentation but I'm very interested in having a copy. I don't know know how big the file is but that could be the reason. I definitely would like to have a copy. How big is the file?. If it is too big, perhaps you zip it or could you put it on CD and mail it? I'm also interested in having a copy of your thesis.
I've always been interested in La Revolucion Cristera. You see, I'm from San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, and Los Altos de Jalisco was where many if not the most important battles took place. My father was just small boy during that war and when I was young growing up in Mexico, he always used to talk to us about how his father yelled at the soldiers "Viva Cristo Rey" when the soldiers were coming into town and my grandmother used to get all scared. My mother also talks about how during "La Concentracion" (this is the time during La Revolucion Cristera when all young adults and men were required to report to the authorities so the government would have control over its enemies, Los Cristeros) her father was taken away by the soldiers and put in a quartel so the government would have control of any potential enemy. During this time the soldiers took over
churches and destroyed many of the records. This is one of the reasons is difficult to find church records in many parts of Los Altos de Jalisco.
churches and destroyed many of the records. This is one of the reasons is difficult to find church records in many parts of Los Altos de Jalisco.
A few years back my father opened a little Museo de La Revolucion Cristera right in the center of town in San Juan de los Lagos.
Anyway, I would love to have copies of both of your documents.if possible
Regards,
Felipe Hermosillo
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Steve,
Hola.
My grandfather Aureliano Lopez came to the U.S. because of the Crsitero Rebellion.
He never ever wanted to return to Mexico after that.
He brought his whole family from Los Altos.
Now I know why he always had a bitterness toward ever setting foot in Mexico, again.
To this day he remains in Los Angeles w/the rest of the family.
He worked in the copper mines of Jerome , Arizona, in the 30's, a ghost town now.
I always wondered, even as a little kid, why he would never come down to San Diego, or Tijuana, to visit my father, and us.
I've recently read about the Cristeros, in my genealogical searches.
I know my ancestors had a ranch in Jalisco., so I figured, why would they have moved?
Sincerely,
Armando Lopez.
Adios por ahora.
Yolanda Bobby Perez <windrocklili@...> wrote:
Yolanda Bobby Perez <windrocklili@...> wrote:
Steve, it sounds like you must have poured your heart into your thesis, I would love to read and learn about the Cristeros, please send me a copy of your work. Yolanda
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Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Steve,
Hola.
My grandfather Aureliano Lopez came to the U.S. because of the Crsitero Rebellion.
He never ever wanted to return to Mexico after that.
He brought his whole family from Los Altos.
Now I know why he always had a bitterness toward ever setting foot in Mexico, again.
To this day he remains in Los Angeles w/the rest of the family.
He worked in the copper mines of Jerome , Arizona, in the 30's, a ghost town now.
I always wondered, even as a little kid, why he would never come down to San Diego, or Tijuana, to visit my father, and us.
I've recently read about the Cristeros, in my genealogical searches.
I know my ancestors had a ranch in Jalisco., so I figured, why would they have moved?
Sincerely,
Armando Lopez.
Adios por ahora.
Yolanda Bobby Perez <windrocklili@...> wrote:
Yolanda Bobby Perez <windrocklili@...> wrote:
Steve, it sounds like you must have poured your heart into your thesis, I would love to read and learn about the Cristeros, please send me a copy of your work. Yolanda
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Steve, it sounds like you must have poured your heart into your thesis, I would love to read and learn about the Cristeros, please send me a copy of your work. Yolanda
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Pacorro73@... wrote:
Dear Ranchos,
When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion. I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography. If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. I do not mind.
Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting. Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.
If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know. I would be quite interested in reading these.
Cordially,
Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez
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Hi Steven, I, too, would like a copy of your theisis. Thanks a bunch. George Luna
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Hi Arturo, I, too, would like a copy of your theisis. Thanks a bunch. George Luna
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