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John, The link sent by Jose Munoz was of great interest to me because my husband's maternal grandfather was a Chihuahua (Ciudad de Chihuahua) policeman, a "federal", born in 1853, died in 1951, chased "el Indio Victorio" all over the place, never caught him. I have one picture of him in his uniform, which is very, very different from the ones worn by Leticia's ancestors (it looks more like the uniform worn by the soldiers of the Confederate States of America in the 1860's, light colored with a cap). Unfortunately, in the picture, he is seated holding one of his infant daughters and his left breast is obscured by the child, so I can't see a badge. The photo is very faint in some places, but I can make out the insignia on the cap clearly: it is two light colored bars (vertical----gold or silver?) with a dark bar in the middle. The insignia on the shoulder is too faint to make out. My husband is taking his nightly nap right now (I've been up all night putting up the Christmas décor), but when he wakes up later today, I will ask him if he knows what rank his "tata" held. If he doesn't know, I will call his elderly (more elderly than my husband) cousin and see if she knows. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ----
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it looks fine, but the eagle is bending the head; in the photo the head is up, could be a police; the photo most probably was taken in Jesus Maria or Arandas, Jal. between 1920 and 1930. I think he is my great-grandfather half brother. All of these photos were given to my father when my gg father past the way by, the last and third wife. thank you, Leticia Leon
jose munoz <jmunoz2781@...> escribió:
jose munoz <jmunoz2781@...> escribió:
Leticia Leon and John Gonzales
Curiosity got the best of me. Visit the following
site:
http://www.collectors-badges.com/international.htm
Scroll a smidge past center and you will find a
Chihuahua Mexico policeman badge. What is your
opinions? Where was the ancestor photo taken?
Jose Munoz
--- leticia leon
<caleta58@...> wrote:
> sorry, the last line should be "I have to look for
> the meaning of the ..." thanks. Leticia Leon
> Morales
>
> John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> escribió:
> The last line of your message is confusing...
>
> I believe the eagle was just an emblem and had
> nothing to do with rank. In the U.S. Armed Forces,
> the eagle emblem on the headgear only designates
> "enlisted" or "officer" the enlisted has a circle
> around the eagle, the officer's emblem has a bigger
> eagle without the circle.
>
> I am no expert, but the CP could designate the
> unit to which he belonged, not the rank...Keep on
> digging, Iam sure somebody will come up with an
> answer.
> Good
luck.
> 1gnzlz@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: leticia leon
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:54 PM
> Subject: [ranchos] militar insignia regarding my
> photos
>
>
> ok, in the original picture (I should do this in the
> first place)the
> militar sitting has three bars in the hat and so on
> the shoulders; the
> other, with an eagle badge has two capital letters
> on the collar C and
> P. In the site www.en.wikipedia.org I found for the
> mexican army that
> three bars mean Capitan Segundo (Senior Captain)and
> three bars with
> the one in the middle been shorter means Capitan
> Primero (Captain) so
> I have know why the eagle on the chest and CP on the
> collar.
>
>
>
>
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Leticia Leon and John Gonzales Curiosity got the best of me. Visit the following site: http://www.collectors-badges.com/international.htm Scroll a smidge past center and you will find a Chihuahua Mexico policeman badge. What is your opinions? Where was the ancestor photo taken? Jose Munoz --- leticia leon <caleta58@...> wrote: > sorry, the last line should be "I have to look for > the meaning of the ..." thanks. Leticia Leon > Morales > > John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> escribió: > The last line of your message is confusing... > > I believe the eagle was just an emblem and had > nothing to do with rank. In the U.S. Armed Forces, > the eagle emblem on the headgear only designates > "enlisted" or "officer" the enlisted has a circle > around the eagle, the officer's emblem has a bigger > eagle without the circle. > > I am no expert, but the CP could designate the > unit to which he belonged, not the rank...Keep on > digging, Iam sure somebody will come up with an > answer. > Good luck. > 1gnzlz@... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: leticia leon > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:54 PM > Subject: [ranchos] militar insignia regarding my > photos > > > ok, in the original picture (I should do this in the > first place)the > militar sitting has three bars in the hat and so on > the shoulders; the > other, with an eagle badge has two capital letters > on the collar C and > P. In the site www.en.wikipedia.org I found for the > mexican army that > three bars mean Capitan Segundo (Senior Captain)and > three bars with > the one in the middle been shorter means Capitan > Primero (Captain) so > I have know why the eagle on the chest and CP on the > collar. > > > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - > Release Date: 12/2/2005 > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Aguascalientes Criminal offenses > Zacatecas Zacatecas mexico Zacatecas hotel > Fiesta americana aguascalientes > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "ranchos" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: > ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB > extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. > http://net.yahoo.com.mx __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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sorry, the last line should be "I have to look for the meaning of the ..." thanks. Leticia Leon Morales
John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> escribió:
John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> escribió:
The last line of your message is confusing...I believe the eagle was just an emblem and had nothing to do with rank. In the U.S. Armed Forces, the eagle emblem on the headgear only designates "enlisted" or "officer" the enlisted has a circle around the eagle, the officer's emblem has a bigger eagle without the circle.I am no expert,
but the CP could designate the unit to which he belonged, not the rank...Keep on digging, Iam sure somebody will come up with an answer.Good luck.----- Original Message -----From: leticia leonSent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:54 PMSubject: [ranchos] militar insignia regarding my photosok,
in the original picture (I should do this in the first place)the
militar sitting has three bars in the hat and so on the shoulders; the
other, with an eagle badge has two capital letters on the collar C and
P. In the site www.en.wikipedia.org I found for the mexican army that
three bars mean Capitan Segundo (Senior Captain)and three bars with
the one in the middle been shorter means Capitan Primero (Captain) so
I have know why the eagle on the chest and CP on the collar.
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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