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Thanks Elvira!!! I knew they were great names, now I'm a little more educated on what they mean. Thanks!
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I started my genealogy research after we named our last child. But recently I told my wife, if I had known the names of my great---grandparents, uncles, and aunts, I would have named our children after them. She saw my list, and told me "No, Way!" In that case, I would of just given their middle names, like or not, since I usually gave her first choice of picking the first names. I still think our early ancestor's names were beautiful. Alberto Duarte Prieto Santa Maria, California --- elviraz <elviraz@...> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emilie Garcia > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Odd names WAS > > > No, Alberto, our ancestor's names were not unusual > in their time and place, but a name like Gorgonia > [Garcia], > > ---------------------------I do not see why it > would sound awful: It is from St. Gorgonia, one of > the early Christian saints. > > my father's mother, sounds so awful to us now, > especially those of us raised here in the US. > > --------------------------that's because they lack > the knowledge of early Christian Greek saints. > > Refugio sounds ugly also, > > -------------------------Since when has refuge > from anything been ugly?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alberto Duarte > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Odd names WAS > > > Hey, there is nothing wrong with our old Spanish > names. My great-----grandaunt's name was Maria > Guadalupe Leogarda De La Cruz Pena Morales, > 1797, > Valle De Allende, Chihuahua,Mexico. > > They were long but beautiful. > > Alberto Duarte Prieto > Santa Maria, California > > --- Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...> > wrote: > > > Marge and Emilie, > > > > Alicia must be a very new name because in > all my > > research I have not once found this name > either in > > my ancestors or any other records. I guess we > are > > modern women hence the new variant of a name. > I > > guess that's also why I am not saintly, no > > precedents in my namesake. > > > > Alicia, a saint in waiting or in the > > making............hope is everlasting, (sigh, > sigh). > > > > Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> > wrote: > > That's what I thought, too, Em! BTW, my > middle > > name is Alicia...my > > folks said it was after a family friend but I > don't > > remember ever > > meeting her. My first name is after my Scots > > mother's sister but in > > Spanish. I've since discovered that my aunt > was > > named after her > > grandmother, who was named after her own > > grandmother. Had I known that > > I would have named one of my own daughters a > variant > > of it. Marge, who > > is Shinju in Japanese.:) > > > > On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Emilie Garcia > wrote: > > > > > Well, Alicia, I have a sister, my only > sibling, > > who is named Alicia > > > Emma. I will have to tell her she should > have a > > saint's name since > > > she has a pagan name. Our parents had > saint's > > names: Luisa and > > > Guadalupe. I wonder where they got the > name > > Alicia. There is no one > > > in the family with that name. I know that > I was > > named after my > > > mother's mother, Emilia. My middle name is > > Christina---can't get any > > > saintlier than that. I was born almost on > > Easter, maybe that is why > > > the name Christina. > > >  > > > Marge, most of the names you mention sound > like > > they came from the > > > classic Greek or Roman---pagan? > > >  > > > Emilie Garcia > > > Port Orchard, WA --- > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Alicia Carrillo > > >> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:15 PM > > >> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Odd names WAS > > >> > > >> Marge, > > >>  > > >> My dad was named Restituto and he went to > court > > to legally change his > > >> name to Jose. Many people called him > ''Tuto'' for > > short but he hated > > >> it. > > >>  > > >>  And yes I am glad my mom named me Alicia > and > > not Juana because Juana > > >> was my saint day and that's the name the > priest > > told my mother she > > >> should name me. He told her Alicia was a > pagan > > name and it had to be > > >> a saint's name. Three cheers for mom who > stuck to > > her guns. > > >>  > > >> Alicia Avelar de Carrillo > > >> San Jose, Ca > > >> > > >> Margarita Vallazza wrote: > > >>> Aren't you glad to not be named Reducindo > or > > Reducinda? One of my > > >>> ancestors is named Narciso, another > Prudencio, > > another Petronilo, and > > >>> another Zenobio...what names!!!! Marge:) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> â-ª  Visit your group "ranchos" on the > web. > > >>>  > > >>> â-ª  To unsubscribe from this group, send > an > > email to: > > >>>  ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>  > > >>> â-ª  Your use of Yahoo! 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No, Alberto, our ancestor's names were not unusual in their time and place, but a name like Gorgonia [Garcia], my father's mother, sounds so awful to us now, especially those of us raised here in the US. Refugio sounds ugly also, but Gorgonia! Heavens, wasn't she the lady in mythology that had snakes for hair? and anyone unfortunate enough to catch a glimpse of her would turn to stone? No wonder I can't find any record of her birth. Emilie Garcia' Port Orchard, WA ---
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Hey, there is nothing wrong with our old Spanish names. My great-----grandaunt's name was Maria Guadalupe Leogarda De La Cruz Pena Morales, 1797, Valle De Allende, Chihuahua,Mexico. They were long but beautiful. Alberto Duarte Prieto Santa Maria, California --- Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...> wrote: > Marge and Emilie, > > Alicia must be a very new name because in all my > research I have not once found this name either in > my ancestors or any other records. I guess we are > modern women hence the new variant of a name. I > guess that's also why I am not saintly, no > precedents in my namesake. > > Alicia, a saint in waiting or in the > making............hope is everlasting, (sigh, sigh). > > Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote: > That's what I thought, too, Em! BTW, my middle > name is Alicia...my > folks said it was after a family friend but I don't > remember ever > meeting her. My first name is after my Scots > mother's sister but in > Spanish. I've since discovered that my aunt was > named after her > grandmother, who was named after her own > grandmother. Had I known that > I would have named one of my own daughters a variant > of it. Marge, who > is Shinju in Japanese.:) > > On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Emilie Garcia wrote: > > > Well, Alicia, I have a sister, my only sibling, > who is named Alicia > > Emma. I will have to tell her she should have a > saint's name since > > she has a pagan name. Our parents had saint's > names: Luisa and > > Guadalupe. I wonder where they got the name > Alicia. There is no one > > in the family with that name. I know that I was > named after my > > mother's mother, Emilia. My middle name is > Christina---can't get any > > saintlier than that. I was born almost on > Easter, maybe that is why > > the name Christina. > >  > > Marge, most of the names you mention sound like > they came from the > > classic Greek or Roman---pagan? > >  > > Emilie Garcia > > Port Orchard, WA --- > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Alicia Carrillo > >> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:15 PM > >> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Odd names WAS > >> > >> Marge, > >>  > >> My dad was named Restituto and he went to court > to legally change his > >> name to Jose. Many people called him ''Tuto'' for > short but he hated > >> it. > >>  > >>  And yes I am glad my mom named me Alicia and > not Juana because Juana > >> was my saint day and that's the name the priest > told my mother she > >> should name me. He told her Alicia was a pagan > name and it had to be > >> a saint's name. Three cheers for mom who stuck to > her guns. > >>  > >> Alicia Avelar de Carrillo > >> San Jose, Ca > >> > >> Margarita Vallazza wrote: > >>> Aren't you glad to not be named Reducindo or > Reducinda? One of my > >>> ancestors is named Narciso, another Prudencio, > another Petronilo, and > >>> another Zenobio...what names!!!! Marge:) > >>> > >>> > >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >>> > >>> > >>> �  Visit your group "ranchos" on the web. > >>>  > >>> �  To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > >>>  ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>>  > >>> �  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > the Yahoo! Terms of > >>> Service. > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > �  Visit your group "ranchos" on the web. > >  > > �  To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > >  ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >  > > �  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Marge and Emilie,
Alicia must be a very new name because in all my research I have not once found this name either in my ancestors or any other records. I guess we are modern women hence the new variant of a name. I guess that's also why I am not saintly, no precedents in my namesake.
Alicia, a saint in waiting or in the making............hope is everlasting, (sigh, sigh).
Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:
Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:
That's what I thought, too, Em! BTW, my middle name is Alicia...my
folks said it was after a family friend but I don't remember ever
meeting her. My first name is after my Scots mother's sister but in
Spanish. I've since discovered that my aunt was named after her
grandmother, who was named after her own grandmother. Had I known that
I would have
named one of my own daughters a variant of it. Marge, who
is Shinju in Japanese.:)
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
> Well, Alicia, I have a sister, my only sibling, who is named Alicia
> Emma. I will have to tell her she should have a saint's name since
> she has a pagan name. Our parents had saint's names: Luisa and
> Guadalupe. I wonder where they got the name Alicia. There is no one
> in the family with that name. I know that I was named after my
> mother's mother, Emilia. My middle name is Christina---can't get any
> saintlier than that. I was born almost on Easter, maybe that is why
> the name Christina.Â
> Â
> Marge, most of the names you mention sound like they came from the
> classic Greek or Roman---pagan?
> Â
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
>> ----- Original
Message -----
>> From: Alicia Carrillo
>> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:15 PM
>> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Odd names WAS
>>
>> Marge,
>> Â
>> My dad was named Restituto and he went to court to legally change his
>> name to Jose. Many people called him ''Tuto'' for short but he hated
>> it.
>> Â
>> Â And yes I am glad my mom named me Alicia and not Juana because Juana
>> was my saint day and that's the name the priest told my mother she
>> should name me. He told her Alicia was a pagan name and it had to be
>> a saint's name. Three cheers for mom who stuck to her guns.
>> Â
>> Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
>> San Jose, Ca
>>
>> Margarita Vallazzawrote:
>>> Aren't you glad to not be named Reducindo or
Reducinda? One of my
>>> ancestors is named Narciso, another Prudencio, another Petronilo, and
>>> another Zenobio...what names!!!! Marge:)
>>>
>>>
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That's what I thought, too, Em! BTW, my middle name is Alicia...my folks said it was after a family friend but I don't remember ever meeting her. My first name is after my Scots mother's sister but in Spanish. I've since discovered that my aunt was named after her grandmother, who was named after her own grandmother. Had I known that I would have named one of my own daughters a variant of it. Marge, who is Shinju in Japanese.:)
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
<x-tad-smaller>Well, Alicia, I have a sister, my only sibling, who is named Alicia Emma. I will have to tell her she should have a saint's name since she has a pagan name. Our parents had saint's names: Luisa and Guadalupe. I wonder where they got the name Alicia. There is no one in the family with that name. I know that I was named after my mother's mother, Emilia. My middle name is Christina---can't get any saintlier than that. I was born almost on Easter, maybe that is why the name Christina. </x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Marge, most of the names you mention sound like they came from the classic Greek or Roman---pagan?</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Port Orchard, WA ---</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller>----- Original Message -----</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Marge,</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>My dad was named Restituto and he went to court to legally change his name to Jose. Many people called him ''Tuto'' for short but he hated it.</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller> And yes I am glad my mom named me Alicia and not Juana because Juana was my saint day and that's the name the priest told my mother she should name me. He told her Alicia was a pagan name and it had to be a saint's name. Three cheers for mom who stuck to her guns.</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...></x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> wrote:</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-bigger>Aren't you glad to not be named Reducindo or Reducinda? One of my</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>ancestors is named Narciso, another Prudencio, another Petronilo, and</x-tad-bigger>
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