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Arturo,

 

I thought Gary Felix' was the Mexico DNA group.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---


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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:52
AM

Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A
ancestor---we are a match


Margarita:

Is your father still living?  If he
did the test, you would be able
to trace both his maternal (mtDNA) and
paternal (yDNA) lineages.  If
your cousin Humberto did it, he would
not have your father's yDNA but
would have his mtDNA, whereas if your
cousin Bobby did it, he would
have your father's yDNA but not your
father's mtDNA.  However, his
father (your uncle) would have the same
yDNA and mtDNA as your
father.  I guess you could have to have both
of them do the test...
Humberto can do the mtDNA and Bobby can do the
yDNA.

If you join Gary Felix's project you can get a 12-marker yDNA for
$99
and a low-resolution mtDNA for $129.  You get a discount on the
yDNA
through Gary's project but not for the mtDNA (because his is a
yDNA-
based project only)...

Maybe we need to start up a Mexico
mtDNA project!





--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com,
Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@k...>
wrote:
>
> Well,
as I've said before, I can't do this test at all because me
mum 

> wasn't Hispanic.  If I have one of my male cousins do this,
would I
get 
> some usable answers if his mother is my aunt or
his father my
uncle?  
> In other words, if my cousin
Humberto did it, his mother is my
father's 
> sister or if my
cousin Bobby did it, his dad was my dad's brother, 
> which would
be the better candidate?  Marge V:)
>
> On Nov 17, 2005, at
10:35 AM, Edward Serros wrote:
>
> > Josie,
>
>
> >  I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us are
related
since 
> > we are studying our
> > 
ancestors that came from the same area. Today I checked my
mtDNA 

> > results which I
> >  haven't done for awhile and
you are an exact match at a low 
> > resolution level to
my
> >  paternal grandmother, Maria Felguerez (via Cecilia
Isordia).  I
did 
> > not realize who you
>
>  were.
> >
> >  Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2
mtDNA tests? If you did not do the
HVR2 
> > and you
have
> >  extra money lying around, I would be interested to see
if we
are 
> > related at an even closer
> > 
(high resolution) level.
> >
> >  Welcome to the tribe.
Now I have to look up all the material you
have 
> > in the
Ranchos
> >  database. My grandmother's data is below.
>
>
> >  Even though I said that we shouldn't be surprised, I
am. Amazing.
> >
> >  Abrazos,
> >
>
>  Ed
> >
> >  HVR1 Haplogroup A
>
>  HVR1 differences
> >  from CRS
> > 
16223T
> >       
>
>  16290T
> > 
     
> >  16319A
>
>       
> > 
16362C
> >
> >  HVR2 differences
> > 
from CRS
> >  64T
> > 
     
> >  73G
> > 
     
> >  146C
> > 
     
> >  153G
> > 
     
> >  182T
> > 
     
> >  235G
> > 
     
> >  263G
> > 
     
> >  315.1C
>
>       
> >  522-
>
>       
> >  523-
>
>
> >
> >  --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T.
Trevino"
<Josiett3@s...> 
> > wrote:
>
>  >
> >  > Arturo......it seems that I match four
of your six
mutations.  Does 
> > this
>
>  > mean we are related 'way 'way back?   Linda.....I
also match
four 
> > of yours.
> >  >
Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am pretty sure we
share 

> > a few
> >  > also.  I haven't had a
chance to do much more on this but
hopefully 
> > I
will
> >  > after the holidays.   
Thanks!    Josie in San Antonio
> > 
> 
> >  > 
> >  >
>
>  >
> >  > HVR1 Haplogroup
> > 
>
> >  > A
> >  >
> > 
>
> >  > HVR1 differences
> >  >
>
>  > from
> >  > 
> > <
title=http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?
href="http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?">http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?

> > kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9
> >  >
2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%
85%
>
>  A4%9E%C9%A
> >  >
7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%
7C%
>
>  83%B9%AD%C
> >  > F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1>
CRS
> >  >
> >  > 16223T
> > 
>
> >  > 
     
> >  > 16290T
>
>  >
> >  > 
     
> >  > 16319A
>
>  >
> >  > 
     
> >  > 16362C
>
>  >
> >  > 
> >  >
>
>  >  
> >  >
> > 
>
> >  >   _____ 
> > 
>
> >  > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
On 
> > Behalf Of
>
>  > Arturo Ramos
> >  > Sent: Wednesday, November
16, 2005 1:06 PM
> >  > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>
>  > Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
>
>  >
> >  >
> >  > Victor, Josie,
Linda, et al.
> >  >
> >  > I too am a
haplogroup A with the following mutations:
> >  >
>
>  > 16111T
> >  > 16223T
> >  >
16290T
> >  > 16319A
> >  > 16362C
>
>  > 16390A
> >  >
> >  > I have
traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa Magallanes
born
>
>  > circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most likely

Tepecano
> >  > (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by
that time the Spanish
were
> >  > really pushing up the
production of the mine in Bolanos and
brought
> >  > in a
lot of other labor to the area.
> >  >
> > 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" 
> >
<raices_regias@y...>
> >  > wrote:
> > 
> >
> >  > > Josie & Linda,
> > 
> >
> >  > > We share the same haplogroup A. 
Although we're not an
exact match
> >  > we
>
>  > > do match on some numbers.  Since we're dealing here
with
> >  > mitochondrial
> >  > > DNA,
in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that our
female
>
>  > common
> >  > > ancestor lived thousands
of years ago, in prehistorical
times.
> >  > >
>
>  > > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine what is

called "Deep
> >  > > Ancestry" of our maternal
lineage.  We definitely share the
same
> >  > >
Native American roots in the distant past.
> >  >
>
> >  > > Warm Regards,
> >  >
>
> >  > > Victor
> >  > >
>
>  > >
> >  > > --- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
<Josiett3@s...>
>
>  > wrote:
> >  > > >
> > 
> > > Message: 8       Date: Wed,
19 Oct 2005 03:55:34
-
000        
> >
From:
> >  > > "Erlinda
> >  > > >
Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@y...>
> >  > >
>
> >  > > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup A
ancestor
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group
A 
>
> 16111T
> >  > > 16223T
> >  > >
> 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A
> >  > >
>
> >  > > > Josie, what were your numbers if you
don't mind sharing?
> >  > > >
> >  >
> > Linda in Everett
> >  > > >
>
>  > > >
> > 
=======================================================
> > 
==========
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
Hi Linda.....Hi Victor!
> >  > > >
> > 
> > > Is this what you are referring to (below)
> > 
> > >
> >  > > > HVR1> CRS
>
>  > > > 16223T
> >  > > >
16290T
> >  > > > 16319A
> >  > >
> 16362C
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> I just printed all this out last night and really did not
read 

> > it
> >  > > (properly)
> > 
> > > due to a lack of time.  I have been in Houston for a week

and
> >  > unable
> >  > > to
do
> >  > > > "my thing" with my genealogy/DNA
projects.  What do
these 
> > numbers
>
>  > > mean?   If
> >  > > >
any match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we have
a 

> > common
> >  > > ancestor
> > 
> > > "somewhere"....?  Please feel free to enlighten me as I

know
> >  > absolutely
> >  > > >
nothing about "this new DNA stuff"......I guess that tells
my
>
>  > age!   :-)
> >  > >
>
> >  > > > Abrazos desde San Antonio,
>
>  > > >
> >  > > > Josie
>
>  > > >
> >  > >
> > 
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