OK.  I understand now.  Not an easy knot to untie!

The other interesting finding are your 12/12 matches.  We have to wait
for the 25 marker results to see if those hold up.


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> wrote:
>
> Yes, Victor I realize that the name Aranzazu is Basque, but since 
> this was the name of the adoptive father or Joseph Ramon, it is not 
> necessarily my real lineage.  To further complicate that issue, his 
> adoptive grandfather was an illegitimate child and only took the name 
> Aranzazu, because apparently that is where he was born (Real de 
> Aranzazu in Mazapil, Zacatecas).  His father's name was Juan de 
> Barreda.
> 
> The five full 12-marker matches that I get for my YDNA are:
> 
> Belarus Ashkenazi
> Puerto Rico
> Russia
> United Kingdom
> Unknown Origin Ashkenazi
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Arturo,
> > 
> > You have to follow all the leads in search of the answers you are
> > looking for.  One quick observation regarding your message:  
> Aranzazu
> > is most definitely a Basque surname and while everything is 
> possible,
> > the Basque population is predominatly R1b, with just a mere 2.1%
> > belonging to E3b, so this is something to consider.
> > http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2004_v74_p1023-1034.pdf
> > 
> > Victor
> > 
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Victor:
> > > 
> > > This is very insightful and valuable feedback.  I totally agree 
> with 
> > > you that one should not jump to any conclusions on this, 
> especially 
> > > with this haplogroup which seems to be so widely spread and 
> undefined 
> > > in terms of actual "ethnic" identity.
> > > 
> > > I suppose that the most valuable piece of news from this is that 
> it 
> > > gives me some idea as to the genotype of my Joseph Ramon 
> Aranzazu, 
> > > who as "expuesto" and taken in by a family.  The reason why I did 
> > > this DNA test to begin with was to hopefully find someone with a 
> > > direct lineage to his adoptive Aranzazu family and see if perhaps 
> he 
> > > was in fact an illegitimate child.
> > > 
> > > This definitely keeps that door open, as it is definite that this 
> > > lineage is of Iberian origin (as was the adoptive father).
> > > 
> > >
> >
>