Thanks for the suggestion. I am sitting
here trying to get started and I guess the best thing would be just to start
ordering the films. My husband says I am crazy and there is now way I will find
anything- I know I can if I can just have a little patience.
- Jessica
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Edward Serros
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10:58 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: New
Member/A personal perspective
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Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> wrote:
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> Jessica:
>
> I think you are going to have somewhat of a
difficult time since I
> think that the Valparaiso films are not
indexed in familysearch. I
> know that Ed Serros is researching family in
that parrish so he can
> probably give you some better tips about what
to do, but it may
> entail simply ordering the films and going
through them. Many of the
> books from the 19th century have indexes by name,
so perhaps it is
> not as daunting as it may seem.
>
> Good luck.
Jessica,
I have been trying to figure out how to respond to
you and to Arturo's comments. I agree
with what Arturo has said in general. The
Valparaiso data is indexed well in the Mormon
films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight
forward after those dates; the Internet IGI
(familysearch.org data) is another story and is
sparse to say the least. Before 1880 it is a
real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came
in and out of the Valparaiso area and I
sometimes wonder if that was not the norm, rather
than the exception. A few months ago I
asked one of my patients who grew up in the area
about that migratory movement of the
Valparaiso people and he stated that people moved
to where they had to go in order to
survive. The extreme example of course is a move
to the USA. How true this is I have no
idea.
I would like to introduce the following type of
thinking to the group that perhaps we have
not discussed much. The surnames (apellidos)
typically reflect the paternal lines. With the
paternal surnames come: Spanish surnames, Spanish
Y-DNA, and migratory patterns that
perhaps can be traced. The maternal lines
generally reflect Native American Indian
processes: NAI mothers, relatively (and I
emphasize relatively) stable locations, unstable
surnames (because of illegitimacy, culture, etc.),
and NAI mtDNA.
Therefore, it is more and more clear to me that I
can more easily follow the migration
patterns of my paternal (Spanish) ancestors and
have less of a chance with my maternal
(NAI) ancestors. Having said that, my paternal
Cerros family came to Valparaiso in 1890 or
so and were essentially gone by 1920. My Felgueres
family, who were hacendados, came
to Valparaiso in 1855 or so and were essentially
gone by 1928. The maternal sides, e.g.
Pinedos, may have been there for centuries
perhaps---I don't know.
I leave you with what Arturo Ramos had to say to
me about the Pinedo family members
that we both claim; I hope he does not mind. I
find the Pinedos in Valparaiso, Mesquitic,
Colotlan, amongst other "rancho" places.
"The first Pinedo arrived in Jerez from Spain
the 1580s from what Leonardo (de la Torre)
tells me. The family was quite prolific
there and married into many of the
wealthy families in the area, including the
Calderas, De Avilas, etc.
Branches spread throughout the Jerez/Colotlan area
including to Monte
Escobedo and Totatiche (my branches). There
are a number of ranchos around
Monte Escobedo called "de los Pinedos"
and thus many africans and indiands
also took on the name... there was one very
prolific mulato in Colotlan in
the 1700s by the name of Diego Pinedo."
Good luck. Let me know of your findings.
Ed
