Ed, It is probably not the same Diego Pinedo they you speak of, but I was just wondering if you have additional information on this couple. Diego PINEDO married to Juana DE ESCOVEDO. They had at least one daughter, Augustina PINEDO. She married on 15 Sep 1734 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan DE AYON, son of Nicolas DE AYON and Petra DE LA MADERA. This couple had at least five children. Thanks, Angie --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Serros" <ed@s...> wrote: > Jessica, > > I have been trying to figure out how to respond to you and to Arturo's comments. I agree > with what Arturo has said in general. The Valparaiso data is indexed well in the Mormon > films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight forward after those dates; the Internet IGI > (familysearch.org data) is another story and is sparse to say the least. Before 1880 it is a > real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came in and out of the Valparaiso area and I > sometimes wonder if that was not the norm, rather than the exception. A few months ago I > asked one of my patients who grew up in the area about that migratory movement of the > Valparaiso people and he stated that people moved to where they had to go in order to > survive. The extreme example of course is a move to the USA. How true this is I have no > idea. > > I would like to introduce the following type of thinking to the group that perhaps we have > not discussed much. The surnames (apellidos) typically reflect the paternal lines. With the > paternal surnames come: Spanish surnames, Spanish Y-DNA, and migratory patterns that > perhaps can be traced. The maternal lines generally reflect Native American Indian > processes: NAI mothers, relatively (and I emphasize relatively) stable locations, unstable > surnames (because of illegitimacy, culture, etc.), and NAI mtDNA. > > Therefore, it is more and more clear to me that I can more easily follow the migration > patterns of my paternal (Spanish) ancestors and have less of a chance with my maternal > (NAI) ancestors. Having said that, my paternal Cerros family came to Valparaiso in 1890 or > so and were essentially gone by 1920. My Felgueres family, who were hacendados, came > to Valparaiso in 1855 or so and were essentially gone by 1928. The maternal sides, e.g. > Pinedos, may have been there for centuries perhaps---I don't know. > > I leave you with what Arturo Ramos had to say to me about the Pinedo family members > that we both claim; I hope he does not mind. I find the Pinedos in Valparaiso, Mesquitic, > Colotlan, amongst other "rancho" places. > > "The first Pinedo arrived in Jerez from Spain the 1580s from what Leonardo (de la Torre) > tells me. The family was quite prolific there and married into many of the > wealthy families in the area, including the Calderas, De Avilas, etc. > Branches spread throughout the Jerez/Colotlan area including to Monte > Escobedo and Totatiche (my branches). There are a number of ranchos around > Monte Escobedo called "de los Pinedos" and thus many africans and indiands > also took on the name... there was one very prolific mulato in Colotlan in > the 1700s by the name of Diego Pinedo." > > Good luck. Let me know of your findings. > > Ed >
