Cool about your brother. I wish I knew him better as all that computer
stuff sounds great. Anyway mandale un que tal from me.



as for the procedure its very painless. Some morning you don't eat or
drink and immediately take this scraper and vigoriously scrape the
inside of your cheek. After about a minute you take the "residue"
that's on the scraper and insert the tip and all in the collection vial
and push and the whole tip gets injected into the solution. You cap it
and wait a few hours and do it again making sure you haven't eaten for
an hour or so before the other collection. Details are on the website
http://www.familytreedna.com/ they have a nice set of tutorial videos
and give info on the male/female testing question.



and yes I'll let you all know what my results are,



joseph







Irma GomezLucero wrote:

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class="721434317-21042004">Hello Joseph,

class="721434317-21042004">    Please keep us up to date on your
results.  I've been interested in this myself, but I had thought that
it could only be done with samples from a male member of the family.  I
had been working on my brother to do this.  He's a criminalist and has
access to computer software that tests DNA for solving crimes, etc., 
As a test, he and other co-workers ran DNA on their blood samples--I'm
sure it wasn't as detailed as this project.  The results concluded that
he had DNA that was consistant with being descended from two
individuals who had some similar DNA.  He and the only other Hispanic
had the same results.  :)  He was told that this was common in small
towns.  Of course by then, I had already connected some of my lines. 
Interesting, huh?  I find the Jewish link interesting too being that I
have a Perez line.

class="721434317-21042004">    Could you give us more info on the
procedure?

class="721434317-21042004">Thanks, Irma  

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From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:09 AM

To: LosRanchos; Ciudad_Juarez@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] DNA Testing

This is not directly related to our geographical areas of research but
of general importance to our geneological advancement



Just wanted to share this message sent to me by George Gause on DNA
testing. It is so interesting that connections were made and now they
are striving to make the paper connection. I became part of the DNA
testing project about 3-4 weeks ago. My results are not back yet but
I'd like to encourage some of you to be part of this project as well.



joseph



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Villarreal DNA Testing Match

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you know the Villarreal DNA project which is part of the Mexican Dna
Project has had some success. Danny Villarreal from
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and Ed Villarreal who lives in
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have come up as exact genetic matches. This means that we have a same
common ancestor. I think the common ancestor is Diego de Villarreal my
9th great grandfather who was born in 1601. We are working at tracing
Ed's family tree and are within one generation away from Diego. We are
just trying to figure which son he came from.  One common finding is
that we are classified as Haplogroup E3b which means we are of Jewish
origins and our closest genetic cousins so far are mostly Eastern
European Jews.  A small percentage of Sephardic Jews or Spanish Jews
are Ashkenazi Jews. I have made big leaps in my own research and have
found more than one Villarreal family in
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Diego had an uncle and several cousins. His father was General
Francisco de Villarreal and there were two in the family whom were
priests one was the tercer cura de
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1647 to 1667 . This was either his brother or cousin. It seems strange
that the inquisition was after them and they were clergy. The parish
priest of
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once complained to the inquisition about Don Diego whom he described as
riding a horse, wearing silk clothing and jewelry even though those
privileges were denied by law to a descendant of parents who had been
converted from Judaism to Catholicism
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adults. This contradicts what I have found. One strange fact is that I
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find the names of any of the mothers or wives of his father and
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thought Id share this with you.



This is the link for the Mexican DNA project
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Villarreal

SOURCE: Danny Villarreal
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