Pacorro73@... wrote:

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lang="0">Joseph and all members of Ranchos:



In light of last weekend's discussion over the surname Martín del Campo,
and because of a very hectic weekend, I decided to belatedly throw in my
two cents worth.  The Martín del Campo family, as María Cortéz mentioned,
is indeed a family of purely Alteño origins.  Several of us, including María
Cortéz, Roberta Romero, Irma Gutiérrez Lucero, and myself, are descended
from the progenitor of the Martín del Campo clan.  I'm sure there are several
others out there who are also descendants.  Anyone with this surname is undoubtedly
related to one another.  The surname is still kept by many as Martín del
Campo, but over the centuries some descendants have shortened it to Martín
or changed it to Martínez.

So then in 1931 the doctor who signed my grandfathers death certificate:
Rafael Martin del Campo is probably related. Has anyone out there ever heard
of Rafael Martin del Campo, MD who worked around the San Fernando Valley
in the 1930's? The reason I'm asking is that Grandfather, Luis Perez, is
one of my serious challenges. My moms side of the family is a big information
void for me so whenever i see even a glimmer of possible information i get
excited.

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Hopefully, this little history on one of Los Altos' many Spanish hidalgo
families satisfies Joseph's plea

I'm a hard man to satisfy. . .content and happy yes very much and . . .thankful.
I might be able from time to time contribute some introductory material but
what you and others from the group can contribute are your deep pockets of
knowledge. thanks.

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lang="0"> Incidentally, given the latest uploads of data from Gloria Delgado,
I think that the geography of our Ranchos should be expanded to include the
state of Aguascalientes for the following reasons:



1) Aguascalientes is surrounded on the north by Zacatecas and on the south
by Jalisco.

2) "Aguas" was created out of chunks of territory from both larger states.

3) "Aguas" has many cultural, genealogical, and traditional connections
with both Jalisco and Zacatecas. 



Aguascalientes is an extension of both states in a way, although the small
state is quite unique in its own little way.  I would venture to say that
many out there besides myself also have ancestors that came from Aguascalientes. 
Right?

Well yes I believe I might have relatives from that area, but I haven't persued
that line just yet.



I know that present day Jalisco is nowhere close to what the configuration
of estados and providencias used to be. I'm real flexible and have no problem
at all including Aguascalientes.



If no one has a serious objection I'm going to include it in the area of
study.



thanks again,



joseph

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lang="0">Well I'll part on that note.  Blessings to all.



Sincerely,

Steven Francisco Hernández López