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Juan, Domingo, and Christobal HERNANDEZ GAMINO

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Thursday, January 22, 2009

To Whom It May Concern--

Without places and dates, it is hard to tell whom we are talking about. I looked at my old files and this is what I came up with:

Christobal HERNANDEZ GAMINO born about 1631 in Ayo el Chico, Jalisco, Mexico. Married 23 Feb 1653 in Leon, Guanjuato, Mexico to Maria RUIZ de VELASCO, daughter of Pedro RUIZ de VELASCO and Anna NUNEZ BOJORQUEZ.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Dom, 2009-02-15 17:24 | Enlace permanente

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It looks as if Cristobal was born in Aguascalientes with some of his siblings before the family moved to leon and then to ayo el chico and arandas region

R.A.Ricci

Preguntas/Questions......Hurtado de Mendoza

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Hola a Todos!

I have a couple of questions, which I would like to ask.
I know now the parents of the wife of Rodrigo Cristobal Olivares 1563, Maria Hurtado de Mendoza 1567, were Toribio Hernandez de Arellano Ab1550 and Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza Ab1550. Aguas.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Sáb, 2009-02-14 21:24 | Enlace permanente

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Can you tell me where you saw this information on isabel mendoza. Now that her husbands ancestry has been clarified I would like to work on her ancestry.
R.A.Ricci

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Sophia,
I have the wife of Cristobal Gutierrez-de-Mendoza (abt. 1659) as Maria Gutierrez-de-Laris (abt. 1663). I show he died on 24 Mar 1718. Is this the same person? Have I made a mistake in my Tree?

Eloise Gomez Reyes

How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?

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I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came from portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son was born in 1567, and then the rest is just what the royals except the genealogy.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (no verificado) – Sáb, 2009-02-14 21:31 | Enlace permanente

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I descend from the ornelas family, Do you know who the parents of Alvaro Ornelas' wife petronila orosco are?
Can you please send me the info.
I have done extensive research on the connections of european royalty, the lara, mendoza and guzman familes To the families of los altos de jalisco and I missed the ornelas connection.
When you reesearch european royalty over the internet be careful of errors. I have found many of their conclusions to be unreliable.
Our work is only as good as our sources. Genealogists are like computers. Input good information and you get good results. Input feces and you get toilet paper. and you would only use that hard paper in an emergency.
R.A.Ricci

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You said "the rest is just what the royals except the genealogy". I don't understand that sentence. The "rest" is what?

I am interested in your message because my husband has Ornelas in his ancestry. Who are your Ornelas after the one born in Lagos de Moreno in 1567? Do you have a straight unbroken line from then until the late 1700s? I have traced my husband's Ornelas back to a Jph. Benito de Ornelas who was born in San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco in 1759. His parents were Jose de Ornelas and Maria Gusman or Maria de los Dolores Martin. Jose Benito married Ma. Ylaria Villalobos in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on Jan 16 1790. She was born in 1737 in Ayo el Chico. Did any of your Ornelas end up in Lagos, Encarnacion or Ayo el Chico?

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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From: mormonboy74
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?

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Hello Emile, I have a solid line from 1770-1527 and then I just used the royal genealogies records and such. which extended from 1527 to about the year 900ad so far as i have looked, theres MUCH more but havent looked at alot of it. Im sure your husband and I connect because all Ornelas in Mexico are related. The Patriarch of the Ornelas surname was Alvaro de Ornelas, who came in 1527 to Mexico City and some of his children were born in Jalisco and Michoacan. My guess some of his children went settled throughout the rest of Nueva Galicia. Yes, many of my Ornelas were born in Encarnacion and Lagos, so your husband and i should connect, Ill see what i can find on Benito Ornelas, the name sounds familiar. I had gone on IGI and wrote down all the childrens name for each generation but havent had time too add them to my PAF so, Im not really done yet. I can tell you that your husband does descend from Isabel de Mendoza and Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. You can tell your husband he's a

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Daniel,

Thank you so much. My husband will be so pleased. He always acts so royal, now I can tell him he comes by it naturally, ha, ha. It will really go to his head. I will be pleased just to close that gap from Benito Ornelas and his father back to what you have found. Keep up the good work!

Emilie
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From: mormonboy74
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:30 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?

Hello Emile, I have a solid line from 1770-1527 and then I just used the royal genealogies records and such. which extended from 1527 to about the year 900ad so far as i have looked, theres MUCH more but havent looked at alot of it. Im sure your husband and I connect because all Ornelas in Mexico are related. The Patriarch of the Ornelas surname was Alvaro de Ornelas, who came in 1527 to Mexico City and some of his children were born in Jalisco and Michoacan. My guess

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For those of you who would like it. I can send a file that supposibly
traces the European Royality back to Adam. It is about 2.6 meg in size.

Jonathan

--------- Original Message --------
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?
Date: 06/15/07 18:23

>
> I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came from
portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de
Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up
through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son was
born in 1567, and then the rest is just what the royals except the
genealogy.
>
> Here is what it looks like
>
> Alvaro de Ornelas, Count of Dornelas, born ca. 1462 in Dornelas, Portugal
>
> Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1494 in Lisbon, Portugal
>
> Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1531 in Mexico City
>
> Alvaro de Ornelas born 24 Mar 1567 in Lagos de

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For those who want a copy of the Nobility line file, send me a email.

Jonathan

--------- Original Message --------
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal
lines?
Date: 06/17/07 12:36

> For those of you who would like it. I can send a file that supposibly
> traces the European Royality back to Adam. It is about 2.6 meg in size.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org

> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?
> Date: 06/15/07 18:23
>
> >
> > I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came
from
> portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de
> Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up
> through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son
was

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Jonathan
is it possible to add the file on the yahoo group?
if not could you send it to me in a zip?

Gracias
Yolanda

Jonathan wrote:
For those who want a copy of the Nobility line file, send me a email.

Jonathan

--------- Original Message --------
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal
lines?
Date: 06/17/07 12:36

> For those of you who would like it. I can send a file that supposibly
> traces the European Royality back to Adam. It is about 2.6 meg in size.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org

> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?
> Date: 06/15/07 18:23
>
> >
> > I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came
from
> portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de
> Dornelas" his name was also

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Pintura of Don Martin Casillas...

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Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008

Dear Group--

Many years ago when I was an active part of SHHAR in Orange, California, I was given a poster which was about Don Martin Casillas--
Architect/ Alarife of the cathedrals Puebla de Los Angeles, Mexico City and Guadalajara. Listed as his some of his descendants were the following seven SHHAR members; Tony Campos and his wife Clarisa Vega, Ramon Godinez, George Herrera, Ophelia Marquez, Mary Lou Montagna, and Lillian Wold.

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R.A.Ricci
I have been disappointed so far in my search for Martin Casillas's parents but there is information concerning his relatives. In my research I found that he was said to be related to the viceroy Lorenzo Suarez de Mendoza, through the Suarez de Mendoza line.

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The father of Martín Casillas was :Pedro Casillas, acording to the book , *La Epopeya de la raza extremeña en indias* by Vicente Navarro Del Castillo.
I wrote a book about him and my family tree.
El padre de Martin Casillas Fue: Pedroi Casillas, de acuerdo al libro: La epopeya de la raza extremeña en indias, escrito por Vicente Navarro del Castillo. escribi un libro aserca de el y mi arbol genealogico, soy descendiente directo de el , soy la 12 TH generación.
Ruben Casillas M.

--- El jue 12-feb-09, R.A.Ricci escribió:

> De:: R.A.Ricci
> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] el alarife Marin Casillas
> A: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Fecha: jueves, 12 febrero, 2009, 11:50 am
> R.A.Ricci
> I have been disappointed so far in my search for Martin
> Casillas's parents but there is information concerning
> his relatives. In my research I found that he was said to be
> related to the viceroy Lorenzo Suarez de Mendoza, through
> the Suarez de Mendoza line.

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R.A.Ricci
Where can I buy the book? Where can I buy your book also?

I descend from Martin Casillas many times over and so does my wife. My wife is from the casilllas that branched out to san miguel el alto. She is a niece of gregorio casal and mario casillas the actors.

Do you have any other information regarding his ancestry? Was his name pedrio Casillas or was it a typograhical error?

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The name was Pedro. and Im from San Miguel El Alto , and IM related to Gregorio Casals,(I know Lalo very well) the book that I wrote is my family tree back to 1557, i have also have my DNA history.
I have the information of must of the Casillas from San Miguel, and Im writing a second book that includs Gregorio´s information, have brith and marriage certificates back to 1550.and I have pictures of old houses where they lived.
write me , my EMAIL is: rubenazo_casillas@yahoo.com.mx

I hope you understand my english,my first lenguage i spanish.
Ruben Casillas M.

--- El jue 12-feb-09, R.A.Ricci escribió:

> De:: R.A.Ricci
> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Martin Casillas' father
> A: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Fecha: jueves, 12 febrero, 2009, 3:53 pm
> R.A.Ricci
> Where can I buy the book? Where can I buy your book also?
>
> I descend from Martin Casillas many times over and so does
> my wife. My wife is from the casilllas that branched out to
> san miguel el alto. She is a

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R.A.Ricci
Then you are related to my wife. Is your book published and if so can I buy it. I have met Lalo but not his brothers. My father in law who recently passed away is his 2nd cousin. I sent Lalo a small family tree through my father in laws sister Lourdes T. G. but I don't know if he ever rec'd it. Just last week I stated working on his tree again. I have a lot (many generations)of his mother's side of the family (both sides had casillas) but just recently started work on his father's side. Were the paternal grandparents Asencion Casillas andJuliana Lozano and the maternal grandparents Tiburcio Lozano and Maria Martin.

My wife descends from camilo del carmen casillas brother to Bacilia Casillas

Thanks

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Hola Ruben, I think I know Rricci, If his name is Rick, live in Los Angeles County. He is related to my cousins on my father's side. We met a couple of times until my Tia Lola passed away.
----- Original Message -----
From: ruben casillas moreno
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Martin Casillas' father

The name was Pedro. and Im from San Miguel El Alto , and IM related to Gregorio Casals,(I know Lalo very well) the book that I wrote is my family tree back to 1557, i have also have my DNA history.
I have the information of must of the Casillas from San Miguel, and Im writing a second book that includs Gregorio´s information, have brith and marriage certificates back to 1550.and I have pictures of old houses where they lived.
write me , my EMAIL is: rubenazo_casillas@yahoo.com.mx

I hope you understand my english,my first lenguage i spanish.
Ruben Casillas M.

--- El jue 12-feb-09, R.A

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Diana & Ramon

Merry Christmas

Carlos & Nancy Yturralde

---- patricia burton wrote:
> Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008
>
> Dear Group--
>
> Many years ago when I was an active part of SHHAR in Orange, California, I was given a poster which was about Don Martin Casillas--
> Architect/ Alarife of the cathedrals Puebla de Los Angeles, Mexico City and Guadalajara. Listed as his some of his descendants were the following seven SHHAR members; Tony Campos and his wife Clarisa Vega, Ramon Godinez, George Herrera, Ophelia Marquez, Mary Lou Montagna, and Lillian Wold.
>
> There were pictures of two cathedrals and various people. In the center was a large picture of Don Martin Casillas. We were told later that the picture was actually that of Miguel de Cervantes, the writer of Don Quixote. Ha-ha-ha, what a laugh we got from that.
>
>
> Here is more from the poster which was given to me by Lillian RAMOS Wold:
>
> Don Martin CASILLAS was born in Almendralejo, Extremadura, Spain about

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Quieren Ayuda a encontrar sus antepasados? Do you want help in finding your ancestors?

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Si quieren tener mejores resultados, simplemente pongan más datos. No se limiten a nada mas poner los dos apellidos que buscan. Pongan información de familiares: hermanos, cónyuge(s), hijos, etc.... ¿Cual es el primer nombre? ¿Cuando nació, se caso, murió- en que fecha, y lugar y mas importante por que cree eso? Personas no siempre utilizan los dos apellidos, a veces utilizan el de la madre, ciertas familias utilizan el apellido de un pariente famoso, por muchas generaciones. Poniendo mas información le va a abrir las puertas y personas le van a poderle ayudar con mas eficacia.

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Estimado Eduardo:
 
Tendras informacion de Elena Cueto Diaz nacio en Sayula, Jalisco en 1888 estuvo casada con Manuel C. Michel Zamora ;se que era hija de Francisco Cueto Vale y Maria Diaz Gonzalez, me gustaría saber si tienes informacion sobre hermanos, ancestros de ella,
 
Saludos
 
Jorge A. Michel

--- El lun 9-feb-09, Eduardo H Seoane escribió:

De:: Eduardo H Seoane
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Quieren Ayuda a encontrar sus antepasados? Do you want help in finding your ancestors?
A: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: lunes, 9 febrero, 2009, 10:48 pm

Si quieren tener mejores resultados, simplemente pongan más datos. No se
limiten a nada mas poner los dos apellidos que buscan. Pongan información de
familiares: hermanos, cónyuge(s), hijos, etc.... ¿Cual es el primer nombre?
¿Cuando nació, se caso, murió- en que fecha, y lugar y mas importante por que
cree eso? Personas no siempre utilizan los dos apellidos, a veces utilizan el
de la madre, ciertas familias utilizan el

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[Genealogia.org.mx] 8999 Ayuda con una busqueda de informacion

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Hola Daniel, Juan Pablo y Enrique:

Gusto en saludarlos, y que bueno que estan tocando el tema de
los Ruiz de Velasco, ya que por via materna me interesa mucho
este linaje, y yo no he avanzado mucho en el, es un gusto leer que

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Estoy buscando el apellido CUETO DIAZ que al parecer tiene origenes en Sayula, Jalisco.
Alguien tiene datos sobre este apellido?
Gracias

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hola,
En mi árbol tengo unos Sanchez-Cueto, que luego se quitaron el Sanchez, pero
ellos no son de Jalisco, son del D.F.,y sus abuelos son originarios
del Principado de Asturias de q fechas son los q estas buscando?

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, jorge a. michel gómez <
michelgja@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:

>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> Estoy buscando el apellido CUETO DIAZ que al parecer tiene origenes
> en Sayula, Jalisco.
> Alguien tiene datos sobre este apellido?
> Gracias
>
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hola otra vez,
El que si podriamos tener en comun es el Michel, te suena Maria Josefa
Michel, casada en 1806 con Abundio Medina, ellos eran de Tecolotlan Jalisco?

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, jorge a. michel gómez <
michelgja@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Estoy buscando el apellido CUETO DIAZ que al parecer tiene origenes
> en Sayula, Jalisco.
> Alguien tiene datos sobre este apellido?
> Gracias
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
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Estoy buscando el apellido GOMEZ ACEVES que al parecer tiene origenes en los
Altos de Jalisco.
Alguien tiene datos sobre este apellido?
Gracias

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Totatiche 1842 Census

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This last weekend, I scanned the entire 1842 Census of Totatiche, Jalisco. For anyone who is interested in the document, it can be downloaded from the following URL. You should be warned that it is a very large file (approximately 100MB) and will therefore take a very long time to download 10-15 minutes even with DSL.

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Hola Maria:
Totatiche esta ubicado al norte del estado de Jalisco. como a 20 minutos de Colotlan Jalisco.
Casualmente en el mes de octubre.visite a mi Hija mayor que vive ahi.Y tambien tengo en mi poder el libro de la Historia de Totatiche y sus primeros Habitantes ,si tienes alguna pregunta sobre ese pueblo o sobre algun apellido abisame.
Saludos
Jose Luis Felix> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: maria.cortes@trin.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:24:47 -0800> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Totatiche> > > Maria Cortes> > > Where is Totatiche? This file is hard to read.> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Ando buscando el apellido de Cortez Alvarado Hernandez pero ellos proviened de Matansas Jalisco sercars de Ojuelos de Jalisco. No se si sepa de por ahi?

Gracias.

Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8739

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:55 PM
To: research@ nuestros ranchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Totatiche

Hola Maria:
Totatiche esta ubicado al norte del estado de Jalisco. como a 20 minutos de Colotlan Jalisco.
Casualmente en el mes de octubre.visite a mi Hija mayor que vive ahi.Y tambien tengo en mi poder el libro de la Historia de Totatiche y sus primeros Habitantes ,si tienes alguna pregunta sobre ese pueblo o sobre algun apellido abisame.
Saludos
Jose Luis Felix> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: maria.cortes@trin.net> Date: Thu, 5

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Record of my Grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas

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I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900, Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3.  The record is only for view at this time. 

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Eduardo, you are right, I did some extractions many years ago and I do remember not taking all the information from the record. I will order the film, at least I know the film number now. Thank you for all your efforts. ---Esther Jordan (Lopez)

I recommend that you look at the origianal record. The piolt site does have
information about what is on the record. However, it is often incomplete.
The original image often has additional information that was never
extracted. Often the extractors ommited information about the parents or
grandparents depending on the training that they received at the time or the
focus of the particualar project. Always go to the original when and if
possible. I have often found this to be the case.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Santos Luna wrote:

> Esther: If you are interested in securing the copy as it appears on
> the pilot site:
> Click on to the record
> just above your grand mothers name - click "copy to clip board"
> then click ok.
> I then

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Thank you, Eduardo, that is what I need.
--Esther Jordan (Lopez)

Let me clarify, I will get you a digital copy of the record from the
microfilm. If that is not what you want then you might need to persue a
different avenue. Don't worry about money, I am glad to help when I can.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Esther wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> Thank you, yes
> will you get me that record. I would be forever grateful! I will send you a
check
> also if you give me your address.
>
>
> The reason I know this is my grandma is because I got this information from
her before she
>
> passed away. I do have a copy of her marriage record to verify her parents
but I am hoping that
> maybe her grandparents might be listed in her birth record.
>
>
>
> I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther wrote:
>
> > I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
>
> > pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b

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the pilot site:
Click on to the record
just above your grand mothers name - click "copy to clip board"
then click ok.
I then open my word program
under "file" I click "paste"
and there appears your file.
 
If you need further assistance, contact me directly and I can
take you through the steps in detail.
Lots of luck in your research.
Helyn
San Jose, CA
 

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Esther wrote:

I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the pilot
program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900, Jesus,
Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa Cortez. The
film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3.  The record is only for view at this
time. 

Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record?  Or
maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease?  I could
order the film but it takes forever. 
 

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I recommend that you look at the origianal record. The piolt site does have
information about what is on the record. However, it is often incomplete.
The original image often has additional information that was never
extracted. Often the extractors ommited information about the parents or
grandparents depending on the training that they received at the time or the
focus of the particualar project. Always go to the original when and if
possible. I have often found this to be the case.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Santos Luna wrote:

> Esther: If you are interested in securing the copy as it appears on
> the pilot site:
> Click on to the record
> just above your grand mothers name - click "copy to clip board"
> then click ok.
> I then open my word program
> under "file" I click "paste"
> and there appears your file.
>
> If you need further assistance, contact me directly and I can
> take you through the steps in detail.
> Lots of luck in your research.
> Helyn
> San Jose, CA

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Gracias, Eduardo, encontre la informacion sobre mi abuelita Carmen. Yo se que en este caso la informacion es correcta porque tengo datos que verifican esto. Ella vivia en Jamay, Jalisco cuando en Censo Federal fue tomado.

Quisiera saber donde esta Santa Cruz de Astilleros. My abuelita me dijo que estaba en Guadalajara, y como ella nacio en Jesus, Guadalajara, pienzo que debe estar cerca. Perdon por mi Espanol, hace mucho tiempo que no lo uso. Esther Jordan (Lopez-Mendoza) :-)

Esther ya buscaste en el Censo Federal de México de 1930? Esta en el
internet, en Piolot.FamilySearch.Org , no
te lo recomiendo al menos que sepas aproximadamente adonde vivían tus
parientes cuando se tomo el Censo. El censo te va a decir, el nombre,
la edad, si es, soltera, casada por lo civil, casada por le iglesia, viuda,
viviendo en unión libre, divorciada, etc... Lo mejor es que te va a ayudar
para que sepas adonde no buscar. Por ejemplo, si esta viviendo en unión
libre entonces para que buscar en el

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Eduardo, 

Thank you, yes will you get me that record. I would be forever grateful!  I will send you a check
also if you give me your address.

The reason I know this is my grandma is because I got this information from her before she
passed away.  I do have a copy of her marriage record to verify her parents but I am hoping that
maybe her grandparents might be listed in her birth record.

I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther  wrote:

> I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
> pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900,
> Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa
> Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3.  The record is only for
> view at this time.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record?  Or
> maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease?  I could
> order the film but

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Let me clarify, I will get you a digital copy of the record from the
microfilm. If that is not what you want then you might need to persue a
different avenue. Don't worry about money, I am glad to help when I can.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Esther wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> Thank you, yes
> will you get me that record. I would be forever grateful! I will send you a check
> also if you give me your address.
>
>
> The reason I know this is my grandma is because I got this information from her before she
>
> passed away. I do have a copy of her marriage record to verify her parents but I am hoping that
> maybe her grandparents might be listed in her birth record.
>
>
>
> I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther wrote:
>
> > I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
>
> > pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900,
>
> > Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco. Her father, Doroteo

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Esther ya buscaste en el Censo Federal de México de 1930? Esta en el
internet, en Piolot.FamilySearch.Org , no
te lo recomiendo al menos que sepas aproximadamente adonde vivían tus
parientes cuando se tomo el Censo. El censo te va a decir, el nombre,
la edad, si es, soltera, casada por lo civil, casada por le iglesia, viuda,
viviendo en unión libre, divorciada, etc... Lo mejor es que te va a ayudar
para que sepas adonde no buscar. Por ejemplo, si esta viviendo en unión
libre entonces para que buscar en el registro civil o parroquial. Lo único
que a lo mejor encuentras en esos registros son los hijos; bajo este
ejemplo. Si esta casada por lo civil y o por la iglesia entonces con las
edades de los hijos te puedes aproximar a la fecha de su boda y encontrar
los registros de los niños.

Otra cosa que puedes encontrar ahí son los padres de ella si aun viven.
Tendrían aproximadamente, unos cincuenta a setenta años. Lo bueno es que te
da la edad y su estado civil, y otra cosa que no

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I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther wrote:

> I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
> pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900,
> Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco. Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa
> Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3. The record is only for
> view at this time.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record? Or
> maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease? I could
> order the film but it takes forever.
>
> Doroteo Ornelas came from Guanajuato and Rosa Cortez de Leon from Santa
> Cruz de Astilleros. I cannot find Santa Cruz de Astilleros by Guadalajara.
> Could it have changed names later? If any one can help me I would be most
> greatful.
>
> Escribanme si necesitan traduccion. Gracias. Esther Jordan (Lopez)

Datos de Felix

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Gracias por la informacion.

Emilie
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Event(s):
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA TEODOCIA FLORES Family
Marriage: 10 JAN 1835 Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico

Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco

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For those who might be interested we have one copy of : Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por Fr. Nicolas Antonio de Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia. Pulished in 1952 by Instituto Jalisciense de Antropologia E Historia. The price of the book is $46.00, which includes US shipping costs. The book is in good condition, but has light spot on face and the front edge of book has darkened. Inside page have some yellowing, but are clean.

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Carlos,
I would be interested in the book, I love books

Carlos,
A mi me interesaria mucho este libro, los libros valen mas que el oro.

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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From: "cyturralde@cox.net"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:56:46 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco

For those who might be interested we have one copy of : Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por Fr. Nicolas Antonio de Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia. Pulished in 1952 by Instituto Jalisciense de Antropologia E Historia. The price of the book is $46.00, which includes US shipping costs. The book is in good condition, but has light spot on face and the front edge of book has darkened. Inside page have some yellowing, but are clean.

Carlos Yturralde
Hispanic Heritage Project

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Hi Alicia,

The book is yours. I will hold it and you can send us a check or if you give me you phone number I can call your for your credit card information and you charge the book to your account. You tell me what is most convenient for you.

Carlos Yturralde
Hispanic Heritage Project
1400 Oak Hill Drive #811
Escondido, CA 92027
760-420-6955

---- Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Carlos,
> I would be interested in the book, I love books
>
> Carlos,
> A mi me interesaria mucho este libro, los libros valen mas que el oro.
>
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Calif
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "cyturralde@cox.net"
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:56:46 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco
>
> For those who might be interested we have one copy of : Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por Fr. Nicolas Antonio de Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia. Pulished in 1952 by Instituto

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Since the subject of books just came up - does any lucky list member have a
copy of
Genealogía de Nochistlán Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia
en el Siglo XVII según sus Archivos Parroquiales
by osé Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías? I think it was published in a very
limited edition in 2007.

I would be interested to purchase, or perhaps someone could do a look up for
us?

Thanks in advance-
Susan and Joe Cadena

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I can do a lookup for you, I do have it.

Alicia

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From: Susan and Joe Cadena
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:06:16 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Book about Nochistlan

Since the subject of books just came up - does any lucky list member have a
copy of
Genealogía de Nochistlán Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia
en el Siglo XVII según sus Archivos Parroquiales
by osé Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías? I think it was published in a very
limited edition in 2007.

I would be interested to purchase, or perhaps someone could do a look up for
us?

Thanks in advance-
Susan and Joe Cadena

I just found we have the same Line!!!

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paco_romo wrote:
>
> Second : Please guys help me here I'm in Iceland and some times in
Labrador (Canada), there is absolutly no way I can have any microfilms
ordered here can anyone tell me if you guys have any scans from this

Aguascalientes films posted at the LDS Family Search Pilot

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To all:

I discovered today the the LDS church has posted images at the new Family Search Pilot site from the Aguascalientes, AGS, microfilms of baptisms, confirmations, deaths, marriages and matrimonial investigations. The period covered begins in the 1600s and extends to the early 1900s. The images are not by themselves searchable, but when used in conjunction with the IGI, it is very easy to find records of interest. The image quality is quite high; you can also download the images. The image quality is high enough that you can significantly enlarge the images for items of interest. This is a truly marvelous addition to their site!

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Aquí está el enlace:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0

Nada mas haz clic en el mapa de México y vete al final de la pagina y haz clic en el enlace de nombre, México, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records, 1616-1961

Here is the link:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0

Just click on the map of México and scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and click on the link titled, México, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records, 1616-1961

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He puesto un vinculo a la pagina de las imagenes de la microfilmacion de los registros de bautismo y matrimonio de Aguascalientes en la pagina de Vinculos en Nuestros Ranchos.

Tambien he puesto un vinculo a la pagina de los imagenes del censo de 1930 de Mexico.

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Thank You! I am very happy to hear this, I am going to the website NOW! Most of my ancestors came from Aguas and Los Altos and Zacatecas Valles, I just call all of them Nueva Galicia or Los Altos all in general eventhough usually Los Altos usually refers to Jalisco but include the Alteño family of Zacatecas, Aguas Gto. and Michoacán. This is wonderful, I can acutally view entire films at home now to a specific place of my research, it would be conveniant for matching names and recordsbut this is a start! It can also svae me money from ordering films for Aguas. I think for all of us doing Aguas research take advantage of this great opportunity! -Daniel Camino
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La Familia Salas de Bonilla.

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Hola amigos, hace días que estoy aventajando una rama de mi árbol genealógico por el lado de la familia Salas de Bonilla.

Pues resulta que mi ancestros José Santiago Salas de Bonilla casó en Tepatitlán, Jalisco, pero era de Aguascalientes, y me puse a investigar en Aguascalientes y de ahí me lleva hasta Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco con Simón de Salas y Bonilla y Nicolasa de Anda Altamirano, pero quedé hasta ahí porque ya no encuentro nada sobre ésta pareja.

Aguilares and Pinos, Zacatecas

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· Great great grandfather: Ciriaco Medina Aguilar, Birth June 20, 1846 Pinos, Zacatecas, San Matias Church. His parents on birth record: Espidiron Aguilar and Isabel Medina.
· Isabel Medina's' parents, Pedro Medina and Antonia Ponce.

Book Los Señores de Zacatecas

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Just a note to inform everyone that the book has been sold. Thanks to all
who expressed an interest.

Maria Cortez

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Should there be anyone who would like to purchase a copy of Los Senores de Zacatecas, we have one available.

Carlos Yturralde
Hispanic Heritage Project

---- mcortez wrote:
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> who expressed an interest.
>
> Maria Cortez

Genealogy web site with Info on Pasajeros a Indias

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Hello Everyone ,

I came across this site from another group it´s called Sologenealogia.com it´s from Venezuela . They have been extracting information for quite some time .

It shows List, Destinations, Fathers and what group they were in, Wives, Paper works and the years of the paper works.

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As many of you probably already know there are XIV edited volumes of the "Pasajeros a indias" that deal with those who emigrated to "las Indias" between the years 1509 and 1701 these books are available for purchase from the "Archivo General de Indias". I looked up the cost of the last seven and they run about 135 Euros a peace. I found an excellent blog that tells how you can access the information in the books online. I have actually been using the website that is referred in the blog for quite some time. It is called, here is the URL: Pares.mcu.es and it is a tremendous treasure-trove of information.
the URL for the blog article is:
http://genealogiablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/pasajeros-indias-un-viaje-de…
good luck with your searching!

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Eduardo,
Thank you! I knew of the existence of the PARES website - but I hadn't had
any luck navigating the it. This link very clearly explains how it works.
Thank you!

-Angelina-

Pares.mcu.es the URL for the blog article is:
http://genealogiablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/pasajeros-indias-un-viaje-de…
lla.html

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Angelina,
You are welcome, I am also going to be writing an article about some of the
other aspects of Pares that I have found useful for research. I will inform
you when and where I will publish the article.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Angelina Markle wrote:

> Eduardo,
> Thank you! I knew of the existence of the PARES website - but I hadn't had
> any luck navigating the it. This link very clearly explains how it works.
> Thank you!
>
> -Angelina-
>
> Pares.mcu.es the URL for the blog article is:
>
> http://genealogiablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/pasajeros-indias-un-viaje-de…
> lla.html
>

Michaela Pedrosa Anda

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Nicolas de Pedrosa

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Announce Digest, Vol 35, Issue 3

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This is a very interestin site, I had already checked it and has a lot of information. Hope it is useful to everyone, for me only gave mi hints, but not real information that I can take as certain yet (mean, havent gone that far in my ivestigation).

"robados"

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I am not sure of your question....but if I can clarify some things....

Many village and town names were changed after the Revolutionary War. Most
especially, if the town or village was part of an hacienda or resulted

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Esperanza,

Thank so much for the information on robados. The family lore has discussed the class conflict between this two lines of the family. You have clarified this wonderfully.

As for the change of town names, this is surely not the case here. Sierra de Pinos is the established name.

I guess I need to go back to PInos and not be so shy about asking questions. I visited in 1997.

Now my husband and I are retired but in the last 12 years I have new responsibilities and limitations, nine grandchildren of which we babysit 3. Now I have to schedule around them.

SOCAL

Sylvia Rodriguez Robles

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