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Hola PP Chuy,

De pura casualidad el nombre de tu tatarabuelo no sería JUSTO DÍAZ? Casado
con FELICITAS MARTIN el 20 de Mayo de 1875 en San Miguel?
Si es así quizás te pueda conseguir el acta de matrimonio en mi siguiente
ida a San Miguel.

Saludos,

Ricardo

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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de ppchuy
Enviado el: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:41 PM
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] DIAZ DE SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO JALISCO

HOLA A TODOS, UNA RAMA DE MI FAMILIA ES POR PARTE DE MI MAMA , SU BISABUELA
ERA FRANCISCA DIAZ MARTIN NACIDA COMO EN 1885 EN SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO HIJA DE
FAUSTO DIAZ Y FELICITAS MARTIN POR SI ALGUIEN SABE ALGO DE LOS ANCESTROS DE
MI BISABUELA SE LOS AGREDECERE MUCHO CUALQUIER COMENTARIO, UN SALUDO

Amelia:

Welcome to the group. I am sure you will find lots of people here willing to help you with your search.

Genealogy is all about establishing a paper trail that you can follow. You are in for a bit of a rocky ride because it appears that the baptism documents from Jalpa for the relevant period (1860-1880) are not filmed by FHL. I don't know if they were destroyed or simply not filmed. In any case, you will have to look somewhere else.

The first place to start is to find out your grandmother's last name. The birth certificate or baptism record of your father/mother should list this and if it is a Mexican birth certificate or baptism record, it should also list the grandparents' names in which case you would have your great-grandparents' names.

The other place to look is border crossing records and social security death records. If your mother/father immigrated from Mexico, there should be a border crossing record with his/her parents' names and date and place of birth

Primo Joseph, Good to hear from you, and hopefully, all is well after the recent storms. I have been following the recommendation as posted, do believe by David Delgado, of ordering copies from Salt Lake.
On the Family Search site there is a form, "Request for Photocopies", For two dollars, with a maximum of 8 copies per order you will receive a 11X14 copy of the actual document, which certainly beats the poor quality available at the local FHC.

I have been receiving my request in about two weeks time, and since most of my request have been one item per film, beats ordering an entire film for a single record. Also, many of the films I had ordered were months on back order. This is a wonderful service.
Saludos,
Helyn

makas_nc wrote:

Can somone look these up for me next time you're at your FHC?:

ESTANISLAO MARQUEZ MUNOZ
Christening: 10 MAY 1874 San Juan De Los Lagos
Parents: Father: TEODORO MARQUEZ
Mother: ANTONIA MUNOZ
C603411 1873 - 1875 0220669

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HOLA, PRIMO NO ESTOY MUY SEGURO QUIEN ERES PERO TENGO IDEA. SOY NIETO DE MARTIN JIMENEZ TENGO MUCHA INFORMACION QUE PUDIERA SERTE UTIL SOBRE LOS JIMENEZ Y LOS HERMOSILLO, ASI COMO DE OTROS APEIDOS, NO DUDES EN CONTESTARME, ATENTAMENTE LUIS.

PPCHUY- Francisco Jimenez tengo nacido Mayo 31, 1831 San Miguel necesito la acta actual. encontere 2 hermanos Jose de Santa RitaMayo 27, 1820 y J Jose Merced Agosto 7, 1833 hijos de Maximo Hermosill y Paula Gomez film#2794245. Su esposa Nicolasa Jimenez nacio Diciembre 12, 1834 en San Miguel hija de Benigno Jimenez y Mariana (Ana)Gonzalez. de quien deciendes . Que tan cercano eres de mi tio martin Jimenez.

Miguel Angel Gutierrez de la Torre
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From: ppchuy
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] LOS JIMENEZ DE SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO JALISCO

HOLA A ATODOS PUES ME GUSTARIA COMPARTIR PARTE DE MI INVESTIGACION DE MI FAMILIA EN SAN MIGUEL, DE PARTE DE MI PAPA, MI BISABUELO SE LLAMABA PABLO JIMENEZ OROZCO, HIJO DE JUAN JIMENEZ Y FERMINA OROZCO NACIDO EN LA CIENEGA MUNICIPIO DE SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO JAL, PABLO NACIO EN 1877, SUS ABUELOS MATERNOS ERAN PATRICIO OROZCO Y MICAELA JIMENEZ

PPchuy, Pablo Jimenez es papa de mi tio Martin Jimenez casado con mi tia Chona de la Torre.

Escribeme

Miguel Angel Gutierrez de la Torre
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To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] LOS JIMENEZ DE SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO JALISCO

HOLA A ATODOS PUES ME GUSTARIA COMPARTIR PARTE DE MI INVESTIGACION DE MI FAMILIA EN SAN MIGUEL, DE PARTE DE MI PAPA, MI BISABUELO SE LLAMABA PABLO JIMENEZ OROZCO, HIJO DE JUAN JIMENEZ Y FERMINA OROZCO NACIDO EN LA CIENEGA MUNICIPIO DE SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO JAL, PABLO NACIO EN 1877, SUS ABUELOS MATERNOS ERAN PATRICIO OROZCO Y MICAELA JIMENEZ SON LOS UNICOS DATOS QUE TENGO DE ELLOS, POR PAERTE DE MI ABUELA MATERNA MI BISABUELO SE LLAMABA JOSE DE JESUS JIMENEZ HERMOSILLO, HIJO DE TEODORO JIMENEZ LOPEZ Y CAMILA HERMOSILLO JIMENEZ, ABUELOS PATERNOS CASIMIRO JIMENEZ Y DESIDERIA LOPEZ, ABUELOS MATERNOS FRANSISCO HERMOSILLO Y NICOLASA JIMENEZ, NACIO EN

Hi Emilie:

I am sorry but I don't have any knowledge of Profesora Martha Duron Jimenez
having written any books about her own family.
She has author and co-author a number of books and studies, but I don't
recall seeing anything about the "Duron" She has done a lot of research on
Santo Toribio Romo Gonzalez family in addition to historical research in
Saltillo and Los Altos de Jalisco.
It is very possible that she has also researched her own family, but I can't
be sure.
Maria Cortez, from San Jose, has a close, friendly relation with Martha
Duron. You might want to contact Maria to find out more about Profesora
Duron.

I am sorry I couldn't be of any help this time.

John Gonzalez.

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From: "Emilie Garcia"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 16:51
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Martha DuronJimenez Books

> John Gonzalez,
>
> A while ago you mentioned a

Tequila is one of my interests as well. Thanks for the article. There is also a tequila, Tequila Partida, which was started by Sofia Partida from LA and an investor from San Francisco. Sofia has family ties to Amatitan, Jalisco. If you are intersted go to: www.partidatequila.com. She has a similar story to the two brothers you mention in your email.

Enjoy,
Juan C. Aguayo

Hi Natalie,

Yes, I caught the ending of the show last night and became intrigued. So after it ended I logged on to the site and read up. I am going to try and catch the complete documentary when it re-airs.

- Angie Godina

Hola Amador ,

Me llamo Welester G. Alvarado , tengo un amigo que se llama Nestor Gregorio Martinez Caballero es un senor de mas de 70 anos . Hace muchos meses intente a inscribirlo en el grupo pero como era un poco dificil para el .

Bueno el tiene mas o menos 8,000 nombres en su genealogia de los Martinez y Caballero y mi pregunta para ti es si quieres a conocer a Nestor para intercambiar informacion o solo para conocer a otro Caballero .

Hasta Luego ,

Welester
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Pero si nos fijamos las fechas no corresponden >>>>
La familia Rincón Gallardo y su latifundio de Ciénega de Mata, 1593-1740

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David, Lester y María Elena:

Nuevamente les manifiesto mi agradecimiento a los tres. En cuanto a la pregunta de Lester acerca de la ubicación de mi domicilio en la ciudad de México, éste se encuentra en la Colonia Narvarte, en la parte norte de la Delegación Benito Juárez, muy cerca del límite con la Delegación Cuauhtémoc. De esta manera, para mí sería ideal un Centro de Historia Familiar ubicado en la Delegación Benito Juárez o en la Delegación Cuauhtémoc.

En cuanto a visitar el Archivo General de la Nación, me parece una buena alternativa dado que, aunque ya han pasado años, alguna vez fui asistente asiduo al A. G. N., trabajando tanto en la investigación de nombres geográficos como en algunas inquietudes personales. Sin embargo, si pudiera aprovechar la facilidad de la que me han hablado en cuanto a que los Centros de Historia Familiar permiten obtener a préstamo las copias de los documentos, para mí sería estupendo porque cuento con el equipo necesario para escanear los que

Es muy bella tu historia, Claudia. Al leerla recuerdo cuánto quisiera yo poder hacer mil preguntas a mis abuelos, que lamentablemente nunca les hice antes de que se fueran para siempre. No sabes qué gusto me da que tú aún cuentes con tu abuelo. Disfrútalo plenamente por todo el tiempo que te sea posible.

Tu historia también me lleva a una reflexión: tu abuelo pudo experimentar tantas emociones porque para él lo que tú le mostrarte son recuerdos palpitantes de personas vivas y actuantes en su circunstancia; son historias y anécdotas de seres humanos con rostro y personalidad. En cambio, a medida que más retrocedemos en el pasado en nuestras investigaciones, lo que encontramos son nombres, fechas y acontecimientos sin rostro y sin semblanza.

Te felicito una vez más.

Víctor Manuel Ortiz M.

Claudia,
I, too, had the privelege of talking with my father about his years in
Jalostotitlan, his family, the stories, etc. I recorded him as he
shared many of his stories. When I showed him a copy of the family
tree dating back to the 1500's, he was overcome. He kept the tree in a
"safe" place so he could bring it out to share when a relative came
over. The greatest "find" however, was a copy of a border crossing in
Texas of his father when his father was only 17 years old. My dad
cried to see his dad's signature and that he had $20 on his person. My
dad was diagnosed in December with recurring bladder cancer and was
given 6 weeks to live. He died on January 18,2008 at the age of 81. I
am so grateful to my friend, Gloria, and my Tia Regina from Sacramento
for getting me started in this search of my family's ancestors. I just
hope I can get others involved in the research because it is very
time-consuming and I find I have less and less time.

As an aside, I want

What a wonderful anecdote! You are so blessed to have been able to
share with your grandfather. My father and all of my uncles are gone
now. All 4 of my tias are still alive but they don't really care. My
Tia Carmen is the one who I call frequently to ask questions of but
she gets tired of me asking, so I step back a little. But sometimes
she reacts like Claudia's grandfather--with delight and joy and more
information.
My Tia Aurora tells me about people but i have found that she is
"touchy" if I ask her who told her that or how does she know. Tia
Offie is very ill and has had a ministroke and my Tia Vera, the
youngest, suffers from dementia.

Let this be a lesson to all of us...SHARE your info with your
relatives even if they don't want to hear it!!!!!! Marge:)
On Sep 6, 2008, at 2:15 AM, Claudia_Reynoso wrote:

Hello all. I'd like to share a short personal anectdote, which I am
sure most of you will appreciate.

My grandfather visited us this week; he

Well said. You are so fortunate that you can share all your descoveries with
your grandfather. Unfortunately, I started into this about a year too late.
My father would have reacted just like your grandfather. It think of him
each time I make a new connection. He had no idea that his mothers
lineage,he would have been so proud.

-Angelina-

Rincon de Romos is in Aguascalientes. Aguascalientes was, however, part of
the state of Zacatecas.
Jose Aguayo
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon de Romos

>
> I seem to have mental block, can someone tell me if Rincon de Romos is in
> Jalisco or Zacatecas?
>
> thanks, Linda in B.C.

Rincon de Romos is in the State of Aguascalientes, just north of the city of
Aguascalientes.

John Gonzalez

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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:10
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon de Romos

>
> I seem to have mental block, can someone tell me if Rincon de Romos is in
> Jalisco or Zacatecas?

How about right outside of Aguascalientes?

Karr

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longsjourney
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 1:10 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon de Romos

I seem to have mental block, can someone tell me if Rincon de Romos is in
Jalisco or Zacatecas?

thanks, Linda in B.C.

Maria,

I looked up the couple in question but could not find anything on either of them. Both Jose and JOseph Gonzalez de Hermosillo and just Gonzalez turned up zero for the husband. I tried Mora and just Hurtado/Hurtado de Mendoza for the wife. Since you gave a date, I checked by date from 1746 - 1750, but still found nothing. Sorry.

Perhaps I just overlooked something and someone else might give it a try.

Connie Dominguez

---- mcortez wrote:

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I have a lookup request for anyone who has a copy of Luz Montejano
Hilton's book.

Joseph Antonio Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ysabel Josepha de la Mora
Hurtado de Mendoza were married on 28 Aug 1748 at San Felipe, Cuquio,
Jalisco. They received a marriage dispensation because they were
related "en cuarto grado de consanguinidad". I imagine the
dispensation would be dated late July or early to mid August 1748.
Thank you.

Maria Cortez

María Elena:
Quiero agradecerte mucho, a ti y a David Delgado, su interés en mi búsqueda particular, la generosidad con la que le han dedicado parte de su tiempo y, como consecuencia, la ayuda invaluable de ambos. La información sobre la existencia de esos microfilms es verdaderamente motivante. Pero aún voy a molestarlos con algunas preguntas más.

Ya con anterioridad he tratado de buscar en los Centros de Historia Familiar del Iglesia de los Santos de los Últimos Días. He visto la información en el sitio de Family Search y he intentado comunicarme a los teléfonos que allí se proporcionan, pero nunca he recibido ninguna respuesta a mis llamadas. La razón por la que no he acudido personalmente es que no hay ninguno cerca de mi domicilio. Esta ciudad es muy grande y en horas hábiles el tráfico es muy pesado, por lo que es difícil tomar la decisión de perder una mañana solamente en ir a dar palos de ciego. En el mismo sitio de Internet se informa que dichos centros no están abiertos todo

Gracias Welester
Saludos irma sera un placer intercambiar informacion contigo.
A todos los santillan, jauregui,quezada, aguirre que tengan sus raices en zacatecas y jalisco sera un placer contactarlos

Saludos Cordiales

Antonio Santillan