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Is there anyone that could answer this question? I have a paternal ancestor
from Aguascalientes that I believe changed his name when coming to Texas,
at least that's what my aunt believes. The name she thinks it originally
was is not that common but it is a name I've seen a lot in Aguascalientes.
And, my question is could a DNA test prove what that original name was?

Paige Herrera

Jose Ignacio Anaya Gomez

Me atrevo a hacer un breve comentario , no sin antes disculparme por mi poca elocuencia , pienso que no todas la Familias de JUDÍOS SEFARDÍES fueron expulsados con lujo de violencia , claro me refiero a casos aislados y regularmente Familiares muy allegados a los Reyes Católicos. como en el caso de los Velasco ya sea de la linea de Gomez Cervantes de Velasco y en la que me llega por los Fernandez de Velasco o Henriquez de Velasco primos muy allegados a los cuales les dieron muy buenas encomiendas en la Nueva España o los Mendoza o Figueroa de Mendoza por igual. creo que en el caso de Jalisco o los Alteños fue mas que expulsión una manera de protegerlos de la Santa Inquisición y de su máximo inquisidor Tomás de Torquemada muchas gracias Atte Ignacio Anaya Gomez

Bertha Alicia,

Yo no dudo que tenemos ancestros sefardíes pero deberíamos usar documentos fidedignos para hacer declaraciones como que Ruiz de Esparza, Macias, González, y Barba son apellidos sefardíes. Yo todavía no he leído que hayan encontrado documentos que lo comprueba.

El ADN de los Macias y los Barba es R1b-P312 que es un marcador europeo. Los mas probable es que son DF27+. DF27 es el marcador que desciende de R1b-P312 que es el mas común de España aunque existe también en otros países de Europa occidental.

Los González de Rubalcava son R1b-M269 y como R1b-P312 y R1b-U106 son descendientes de R1b-M269 y R1b-P312 y R1b-U106 son los marcadores mas comunes en España que descienden de R1b-M269 hay muy poca duda que los González de Rubalcava no son de unos de esos dos marcadores europeos.

Los González de Hermosillo son L142.1 que es un marcador que desciende de E-V13. Encontraron restos humanos en una cueva de España que son de 7,000 antes del presente y uno de las personas

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
Bertha Alicia, hay alguna publicacion de lo que acabas de publicar tu, o es esta es la publicacion de España? Tienes el enlace?

Gracias por aportar este informe,
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

yo tengo Castaneda y Arteaga pero no de Atolinga. Castaneda de Moyahua y Mezquital del Oro y Arteaga de Villanueva.
Sandra Blankinship

Yo tengo los apellidos Castaneda, Perez, Avila, Saldana entre otros mas en mi arbol familiar. Todos estos ancestros Vivian en el Valle de Tlaltenango. En particular en los Ranchos que hoy dia pertenecen al municipio de Atolinga (Rancho Grande, Ojo de Agua, El Durazno, Cerrito Pelon)
Que es lo que buscas en particular?
Sylvia Castaneda

I have an Antonia Gomez married to Diego Estrada on 20 Oct 1692 in Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México, Antonia's parent were Diego Gomez and Mensia Velasco de Espexo. Is this the same Diego and Mensia?

Joe Rubio

Jaime,

You are correct. Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Dominguez married in Sierra de Pinos 3 May 1632 and had ten children before 1650. At least seven of them were baptized at the old "Parroquia de la Asuncion de Aguascalientes", including their daughter Ana Dominguez, who went by her mother's name. This Ana married twice. First, she married Juan Hernandez (I haven't found their marriage record either) who died Feb 1688 in Aguascalientes. After her husband died, she married Francisco Fernandez de Palos Dec 1688 at Las Peñuelas. They had no children, as Ana was already 49 years old. The parents of the first Ana Dominguez (who married Pedro Alonso de los Inojos) were Miguel Diaz and Maria Medel. You're probably wondering: Where does the name Ana Dominguez come from...? Well, it's not that complicated. Maria Medel was the daughter of Pedro Medel and Ana Dominguez. The name of this first Ana Dominguez was used for several generations by her descendants, which is typical of

Hi Jessica,

Will you please post the web address for the record? It makes it much easier for us to look at it.

Rosalinda

Hola Edgar, yo lo tengo,pero no entero, no se de donde lo saque,
probablemente de este foro, tiene comentarios en ingles de la persona que lo
puso :

Testamento de Bernardo Ruiz de Esparza
Sello Tercero, Un Real, Años de Mil Seiscientos y Noventa, y Noventa y Uno.
En Nombre de Dios Todo Poderoso y de su Vendita Madre la Siempre Virgen
Maria concebida en Gracia y Gloria desde el primer instante de su ser. Amen.
Notorio y manifiesto sea a los que este pressente testamento vieren, como
yo, Bernardo Ruys de Esparssa, hijo legitimo de Lope Ruys de Esparssa y de
Francisca Gabai su Lexitima Muxer, vezinos que fueron de esta Villa de Aguas
calientes de donde soy natural y actualmente vezino estando en mi entera
salud cabal, juissio, memoria y entendimiento....etc. etc.
On a different paragraph, he continues
Y ten declaro que fui casado y velado segun horden de Ntra. Sta. Madre
Yglesia Chatolica Romana, con Chatalina Lossano, Hija Lexitima de Juan
Lozano y de Ysabel de Friaz su Lexitima Muxer

There are many people from the region that would like to know which Indian
tribes their ancestors came from but there really is no way to know for
sure. We know that the original Indians in the area were zacatecos,
cazcanes, tecuexes and guachichiles see
http://www.inafed.gob.mx/work/enciclopedia/EMM14jalisco/municipios/1403…

Encarnación cuenta con un gran legado rico en historia y evolución que ha
dejado su huella. Ya en los comienzos del actual milenio se encontraba el
territorio intensamente transitado por diversos pueblos chichimecas como
los tecuexes, guachichiles, zacatecos y caxcanes quienes de una vida social
de cazadores pasaron al nomadismo y luego a la forma aldeana. Dejaron
vestigios de su civilización en la zona arqueológica ubicada en la meseta
del Tule al suroeste del municipio.

There were tribes of Tlaxcaltecas and Otomíes that assisted the Spaniards
in the Chichimeca war and mixed and settled with the local Indians so you
could have a mix.

Here is another page

That's interesting to know about the Sanchez and the Banuelos. I'm stuck right now, because I haven't found my ggg grandfather's baptismal record, nor his parents' marriage information (not sure where they wed). My ggg grandfather was Jose de la Luz Sanchez Banuelos. His parents were Andres Sanchez and Maria Feliciana (Petronila) Banuelos. I'm not sure if Jose de la Luz was the first born (married 7 May 1818 in Guachinango, Jalisco at age: 36, putting him around 1782, but not sure if he was born in Ameca, Jalisco) or if his sister Maria de San Juan Sanchez Banuelos (born in Villa de Xerez around 1783 according to her marriage certificate of 28 Mar 1808 in Ameca, Jalisco. All of their other sibling were born in Ameca, Jalisco, and I've found all of their baptismal records.

marriage for Jose de la Luz Sanches
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18568-36893-99?cc=1874591&wc…

marriage for Maria de San Juan Sanchez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1

Sanchez-Castellanos

Katy if you can contact me by Facebook we can share information. I am the cousin of Rigoberto from Monte Escobedo

thank you for sharing this information since I have Matias and Estefana in my files too
Linda in Olympia, Wa

On Friday, June 13, 2014 4:51 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

Quisera dar gracias a mi Primo Juan Sanchez por sus investigaciones de
nuestra Familia de Sanchez. Por mucho tiempo he pensado que mi Estefana
Sanchez (marida de Matias Banuelos) fue hermana de Antonia Sanchez (marida
de Antonio Banuelos). Pense que dos hermanos se casaron con dos hermanas.
Pero quien es Marizal Banuelos y quien es Rosalia Sanchez:

Tres hermanos Matias, Antonio y Marizal Banuelos casaron tres hermanas
Estefana, Antonia, y Rosalia Sanchez en Monte Escobedo – mire los
Información matrimonial de Monte Escobedo:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15559-51?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-16029-34?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15514

Sanchez-Castellanos

I want to invite everybody to use de DNA to share information, I think this tool is very useful with people like us that have documented the family tree of our families. The amount of Spaniard were so limited that I am sure that at least an important % of us share a comoun DNA. In a few words we are cousins.

Joseph and I have been tested by familytree DNA and many of us too. We just have to use the tools we have.

i could give you more info on the parents since i'm a decendant of antonia sanchez and antonio banuelos

This is an interesting study. The supplements document can be downloaded
without registering. It's at
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2014/06/11/344.6189.1280.DC1/Mo…

Figure S10 shows that the Purépecha and Nahua Jalisco are similar to each
other even though they speak languages from different language families,
Tarascan vs UtoAztecan (see table S1). The Huichol are very different from
Purépecha and Nahua Jalisco even though the Huichol occupy parts of
northwestern Jalisco and Nayarit and the Huichol speak a dialect of
UtoAztecan as do the Nahua Jalisco. Table S1 shows the linguistic families
of each group as well as the region each one inhabits. This goes to show
that DNA and language can be independent of each other because you can have
two different language groups with similar autosomal DNA and you can have
two different autosomal DNA groups that speak the same language.

Two of the authors are from Instituto de Investigación en Genética
Molecular

Mia,

There were in fact members of the García de León who mixed with other caste and did produce mulatos. They continued using their last names, I have also found a couple ilegitimate lines in Aguascalientes, Celaya and Teocaltiche.

Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

Hi Mia,

Technically, it would not be possible to be an Indio if the father was an español, and fairly unlikely to be a mulato, unless the mother was actually black, but, in reality the colonial caste system was mostly based on appearance and features and not on a thorough investigation into their racial or ethnic background. I'm guessing that your question is related to Toribio García de León. You are correct that he is español, but, if you look at George Fulton's Aguascalientes Matrimonial Information here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014 

you'll see that Toribio Garcia de Leon married a Mulata named Juana Hernandes, so, although their children should be more accurately classified as Moriscos, any number of other caste labels are possible based on their appearance.  

Here is the actual IM for Toribio García de León and Juana Hernandes : https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-65970-66?cc=1502404&…
 
Toribio García de León

Hello Mia :

Indian with a spanish father doesn't exist, he could be mestizo from Spanish
and Indian or mulato from Spanish and Black . So a member of the Spanish
family Garcia de Leon that marry with an Indian or a black woman .

But sometimes Black slaves and Indians servants , like they did'nt have last
names use to take those of the master, so I think you should continue to
look until you find where is the conection with that family in Celaya.

Good luck

Julieta

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Hello members,

I saw in the older posts on Nuestros Ranchos a few posts about the Garcia de
Leon family from Celaya Guanajuato and wanted to ask a question. One of my
direct ancestors has parents named Toribio Garcia and Juana Hernandes but my
ancestor is

Hello Katy, It says they are "Having technical difficulties." https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1874591

Last week they had a big crash and even Family Tree Maker wasn't working. I thought it was my computer; I even took it in for service but they couldn't fix it. I saved my tree on another computer and erased the program from my computer then reloaded. Still didn't work. Finally I called their line and there was a recording. Thought me to check before assuming the problem is on my end. Maybe they will upload more files while they are fixing the problem. Deedra Corona

. I read your post with excitement because Roque Gomez and Thomasina Ramirez are very prominent in my tree. This couple did have a son named Nicolas, but he was born in Tecolotlan, 8 April, 1742. I believe the problem is that there are several persons with the name Nicolas Gomez. I hope you agree that we should help each other keep these confusing families straight.
Lic. Nicolas Thadeo Gomez y Aguilar was married 3 times:
To Estefania Fernandez de Monrroy, as you mentioned, on 21 August, 1757:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18377-26959-56?cc=1874591&wc…

This document does mentioned the deceased wife; Manuela Flores, whom he married in Guadalajara on 23 April, 1749.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-16944-31?cc=1874591&wc…

This document also mentions a deceased wife: Juana Maria Villasenor whom he married in Cocula 31 January, 1738

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH

Muy en Especial a el joven mendezdetorres aquí tienen los datos del matrimonio de Maria Ysabel Gomez De Aguilar y Covarrubias y Francisco De San Roman Maria Ysabel fue media Hermana de mi 5o Abuelo Nicolas Crisanto Gomez de Aguilar y Quijas y en efecto todos los Gomez de Aguilar son del mismo tronco Familiar de los Gomez Garcia el patrirca de los Gomez de Aguilar fue José Gomez Garcia de Velasco y Zuñiga y su Esposa Maria Candelaria de Aguilar y Solorzano

Francisco De San Roman Nombre del cónyuge: Maria Ysabel Gomez De Aguilar, Fecha del evento: 27 Mar 1787
Lugar del evento: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Nombre del padre