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Abram,

When you do a search for a baptism, marriage, or death record and there is a hit the result will provide a film number. The desired document will ALWAYS be found in the film that corresponds to the number provided. You can then do a search of the film at https://familysearch.org/catalog-search in order to see what they have the book(s) labeled as.

In this case your film is 615009. In the Catalog Search the film 615009 is labeled as Bautismos 1666-1705,1711-1726.

This means the record you are looking for is within the digitized film that Victoriano sent you a link to. There can be multiple books within the film and the records can jump around between baptisms, confirmations, and marriages. So there is a chance you will have to search through a lot of pages to find the desired record.

There are many localities that are like that for years previous to 1700. Whenever you aren't sure if you are looking at the right film always cross reference the film number provided with the

¿Quién quiere dar una clase sobre cómo utilizar PARES?

Hagalo facil y dar muchos detalles.

Who would like to teach a class on how to use PARES?

Make it simple and give a lot of details.

Thanks,

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com

I believe the hash tags make crosses. 1 cross meaning they took confession and 2 crosses that they also took communion. I'm basing this on what I learned from the Padron de Jerez. Deedra Corona

Cut and paste what I put, that is what I did. These links are too long to type in, IMO.

I just tried cutting and pasting the link from my post and it worked perfectly!

Rob

Here you go!

Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico
San Miguel Church
Matrimonios 1825 – 1827
22 Sep 1827
Juan Antonio Nandino, native of Cocula, single, 18 years old, legitimate son of Jose Maria Nandino and Maria Vizenta Maldonado
With
Maria Ysabel Sevilla, native of Cocula, young girl and single, 16 years old, legitimate daughter of Jose Blas Sevilla and Maria Nicolasa Ybarra
This is a four page marriage investigation with witnesses
Link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18432-20971-98?cc=1874591&wc…

Etzatlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Purisima Concepcion, Matrimonios 1781 - 1812
12 July 1800
Don Jose Maria Nandino, son of unknown parents and Maria Luisa Vizenta Maldonado, espanola, legitimate daughter of Francisco Manuel Maldonado and Maria Antonia Ruis[?]
Witnesses: Antonio Chino, Mateo Ruis and Jose Benito Damian
NOTE: Document is difficult to read, and is stained.
Link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18569-37109-57?cc=1874591&wc…

Cocula

Here is the marriage record at San Miguel Church in Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico for Alonso Rodriguez Naranjo and Melchora Gerrero:

1 Aug 1683

Alonsso Rodriguez Naranjo, hijo de Juan Rodriguez Naranjo y de Melchora de los Reyes, difuntos
y
dona Melchora de Cardenas, hija de Juan Guerrero y de dona Maria de Cardenas, vecinos deste pueblo de Cocula

In the margin it says they are espanoles.

Here is a link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-24926-12?cc=1874591&wc…

Pedro de Sevilla and Catarina Flores de Archiga were espanoles in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico, where they were married:

Sagrario Metropolitano

27 April 1678

Pedro de Sevilla y a dona Catarina Flores de Archiga, espanoles

Velaronse en 29 de Junio de 1679

Here is a link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-33129-2?cc=1874591&wc=…

I then found a marriage record at San Miguel Church in Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico for Nicolas de Sevilla and Simona Rodriguez Naranjo, parents of Joseph Antonio de Sevilla:

15 Sep 1728

Nicolas de Sevilla, hijo legitimo de Pedro de Sevilla y de dona Catharina Flores de Arechiga
con
Simona Rodriguez Naranjo, hija legitima de Alonso Rodriguez Naranjo y de dona Melchora Guerrero, espanoles de Cocula
Padrinos y testigos: Ygnacio Antonio de Santa Cruz y Agustina de Santa Cruz Nicolas de Figueroa y Francisco de la Cruz

Here is a link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-26367-13?cc=1874591&wc…

I found a marriage investigation at Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico at the church of San Miguel dated 25 January 1771:

Joseph Antonio Sevilla, espanol, soltero, hijo de originario y vecino deste pueblo, hijo legitimo de don Nicolas de Sevilla, difunto, y de dona Simona Naranjo.

He petitions to marry

Maria Ysabel de Andrade, soltera, originaria deste pueblo, hija legitima de don Joseph Manuel de Andrade y de dona Juana Francisca de Santa Cruz.

Here is a link, I hope it works:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18430-42749-2?cc=1874591&wc=…

No se mandó el anuncio de tu mensaje al grupo por correo. ¿puedes volver a escribirlo y asi algun miembro lo podrá leer y ayudar con la paleografia?

Armando

Carlos Peredo

Hola Ricardo,

Estoy iniciando investigación en mi rama Aceves que enseguida comparto y al mismo tiempo solicito cualquier información relacionada que me pudiera ayudar a continuarla y complementarla.

Mi rama Aceves localizada inicia en Arándas con Juan Bautista Andrés Aceves que casó por 1780 con María Candelaria Gonzales de Hermosillo y tuvieron en 1783 a Juan José Aceves, el cual casó en 18-May-1807 en Arándas con Ma de Jesús Padilla y de la Loza que tuvieron entre otros a:

José María Julio Aceves Padilla b.20-dic-1810, el cual casó el 18-oct-1838 con Isabel Villarruel y tuvieron a:

Feliciana Aceves Villarruel que casó por 1860 con Braulio Peredo Hernández (mi bisabuelo)

Por otra parte, veo que mencionas una pagina en la que has subido diversos documentos, podrías compartir el nombre de la pagina y como accesarla ?

De antemano mi agradecimiento y me pongo a tus órdenes.

Carlos A. Peredo

Ronnie,

If you look at the children of José Muñoz de Nava on the site of Javier
Sanchiz Ruiz you will notice a source of info which is Luz Montejano
Hilton, Expedientes de la Serie de Matrimonios, Sagrada Mitra de
Guadalajara which might mean there is another dispensa that has conflicting
information. This would not be the first time for this to happen. I have
seen dispensas with errors at least six different times. Twice with Macías
Valadez family members, once with Moreno de Ortega, once with Villalobos,
once with Santoyo, and another one mentioned here on Nuestros Ranchos. You
should attempt to find the dispensas for the following people.

http://gw5.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=agustin;n=munoz+de+nava+gomez…

http://gw5.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=juan+francisco;n=munoz+de+nav…

Can you give me more info about where at familysearch.org you found Jose
Munoz de Nava,listed as son Francisco Munoz de Nava and leonor Ramirez de

When in doubt...go to the GuadalajaraDispensas blog...I posted this a while ago :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-16949-52?cc=1874591&wc…

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hola, Sergio.

Mariano González Leal, en Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, escribió que Cristóbal Martín Lozano o Martínez Lozano era hijo de Juan Lozano e Inés Martínez Vaca y González. Recomiendo que busques un ejemplar de la colección para obtener mas datos sobre esta familia.

Yo todavía estoy intentando encontrar los abuelos paternos de, mi ancestro, José Luciano Lozano y Martín del Campo bautizado el 17 de junio 1725 en San Juan de los Lagos cuyos padrinos fueron Juan Caytetano Lozano Gutiérrez de Mendoza y María Aldonza Galván de Rojas Liébano. Los padrino probablemente eran a la vez los abuelos paternos de José Luciano. Los padres de José Luciano fueron Joseph Antonio Lozano y María de la Concepción Martín del Campo Delgado

Saludos,
Armando

when I was in Mexico in 2003 we went to El Limon, Jalisco since my cousins husbands family had lived there (Santana) He was looking for a marriage record for his gr-grandmother that was not online.  The priest said no and then they discovered they were cousins so he had the girl bring out the book wrapped in cellophane.. When he opened the book the pages turned to dust in front of us.. it broke our hearts.. we had him seal it up again.
We should be so grateful for the great number of records that are available to us.
Linda in Boulder City, Nv.

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From: "makas@nc.rr.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] El Limon, Jalisco

Noticed that a few in the group have made reference to El Limon, Jalisco. Here is a book about that area. It might be available via ILL, check for it on WorldCat:

Historia del valle de El Limón
stmt. resp.: Ing. Ignacio Gomez Zepeda  authors: Gómez Zepeda

Yvonne,
It seems that at least 4 children to this couple were born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon. Starting with Felipa, 24 May 1869; Ma. Virginia, 21 Sep 1870;
Antonio, 14 Apr 1872 and Fidencia, 8 Jan 1874 (this one from Nuevo Laredo,
Tamaulipas.) Have you looked for Sabino's & Sipriana's marriage in Nuevo
Leon or Tamaulipas?

-Esther

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM, wrote:

> I have reached a block wall with my maternal line and could really use
> some help.
>
> I am attempting to find my ancestors on my Rodarte line.
>
> My great grandmother was Maria Rodarte, her parents were SABINO RODARTE
> and CIPRIANA LOPEZ. The other children they had were Maria, Virgina,
> Felipa, Pedro, Faustino and Antonio. I have been unable to locate any info
> any further back that Sabino Rodarte and Cipriana Lopez. The lived in San
> Buenaventura, Coahuila which were most of their children were born. I know
> that they are also related to the Rodarte bullfighter family. Maria Rodarte
> was my great

http://piqc.com.pk/3/news.facebook.com.php?s2k0o4a4u7k2s4k5z7h2h2

Hello Sergio,

The two Joseph de Santana's you speak of are not the same person. The first Joseph you speak of that is married to Juana Lopes Bueso is my 9th GreatGrandfather and I have recently been working on that line. I found a death record for that Joseph that states he died in Tecolotlan on 25 November 1717 and was indeed married to Juana Lopes Bueso.
They were the parents of the 2nd Joseph de Santana you speak of that was married to Maria Gonzalez Corona. You are right he married a 2nd time with Efigenia de Zambrano in 1719 and married again in 1724 to Efigena Garcia de Alba. He died in Ejutla on 24 September 1747. I could not find a marriage record for Maria Corona, but here is a link to the marriage record with Efigenia Garcia de Alba:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-10103-83?cc=1874591&wc….

Also you'll find a genealogical tree in the Diocesis of Guadalajara, Marriage Dispensas that shows Joseph Santana was the son of Juana Huezo who

hola,
Me acabo de encontrar con una partida matrimonial que no dice "case y vele", tiene tachado esa parte del machote y dice "tomo de manos".

Alguien se ha encontrado con estos?, sabe que quiere decir?

Mil Gracias por su ayuda

Lo único que tengo es el acta de matrimonio de Antonio Santana Gomez, hijo de Antonio Santana Lopez Bueso y Feliciana Gomez
Casado con Mariana Peña Castillo el 11 de febrero de 1730 en Tecolotlán

Espero te sirva la referencia...

Moderator,
I have some technical background, mostly in educational technology, but I am willing to help a couple hours a week. I am not sure what your setup is or what I would need to do, but I am teachable.
Leni Rivera
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org; general@nuestrosranchos.org; announce@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:57:47 -0500
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Volunteers NEEDED/Se Necesitan Voluntarios
>
> Do you have a technical background? Have you worked on websites before or
> would like to learn to do so? We are an all volunteer group and as such,
> the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
> shoulders that could use some help.
>
>
>
> If you have any experience in programming, content management systems, MySQL
> databases, your skills could be very valuable to the Nuestros Ranchos
> community. The website is in dire need of some maintenance and updates and
> unless we can get more volunteers, we may

Sorry, Joseph. All I know how to do is talk. You and Arturo are the main
shoulders on whom this burden falls. Hugs, Marge:)

2013/3/7 Joseph Puentes

> Do you have a technical background? Have you worked on websites before or
> would like to learn to do so? We are an all volunteer group and as such,
> the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
> shoulders that could use some help.
>
>
>
> If you have any experience in programming, content management systems,
> MySQL
> databases, your skills could be very valuable to the Nuestros Ranchos
> community. The website is in dire need of some maintenance and updates and
> unless we can get more volunteers, we may need to hire programmers to keep
> the site alive. In the spirit of volunteerism this would be your
> opportunity to give a little back and help us keep this group free from the
> solicitation of financial support.
>
>
>
> If you can help, please use the contact form to contact Arturo Ramos or
>

where can i find padrinos for colotlan(i would like to find one near the year 1803)

HI Joseph,

Do you know where I can have access to padrones of Tlaltenango, zacatecas before 1930? Also Land ownership information?

Let me know. I really would appreciate your help.

Thanks!

Pauline Maven200