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Hello Zacatecano

"que fue SU mayor accidente" I think it means she dead of being more than
80 !

Julieta

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Objet : [Nuestros Ranchos] Defunto of My GGGGGGG Grandmother Maria De La
Candelaria (1735) wife of Antonio Madera

First of all I want to give so much thankfulness to a good friend Ruben of
nuestrosranchos for locating this difunto record of my GGGGGGG Grandmother
Maria De La Candelaria (1655 - 1735) who is the wife of my GGGGGGG
Grandfather Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709?). They were at Minillas of
Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico.

This is a copy of the defunto record found on page 43 of "Defunciones (1712
- 1770)" on the LDS Records of San Juan Bautista Church of Mezquitic,
Jalisco, Mexico:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/6iws2f.jpg

Says she passed away in 1735 at the

Rubén,

Gracias por su dedicación y amor hacia la genealogía e historia. Tengo interés en estudiar el censo, como lo puedo ver en la red?

Un saludo,

Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

Edgar Olguin Diaz
buenas tardes a todos
aqui les dejo el link para ver los documento original de la confirmacion de oficio de diego arias de sotelo

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=2&tx…

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=100

espero y les ayude

saludos
excelente dia a todos

Hi Steven

Thanks so much, this is great! Like a window onto the past to be able to read the text. Looking forward to reading it in detail after wednesday ( i have a final exam). In general after wednesday I'll have more time to go through records. I also have some questions regarding citations and posts from several contributors from the past month, but i'll post on that next weekend...

Regards
Denise

Steven

Thank you very much!!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

También desciendo de José maneul Pérez de Alencastre y su esposa Maria Rita Vasques, a través de su hija Antonioa Ubalada Pérez de Alencastre.

Yo también estoy muy intersted en la búsqueda de línea de la familia Diego Pérez de Alencastre de nuevo a rey Jorge de Portugal. Hasta ahora mi búsqueda ha sido un proceso lento de eliminación y que para proporcionar el enlace a un libro google escaneado que puede ayudar a centrar la investigación addiontional.

El libro es Arboles De Costados de Gran Parte De Las Primeras Casas De Estós Reynos: Cuyos Duenos Vivian En El Año De 1683 por Luis de Salazar y Castro y Alfonso de Manuel y Arriola.

https://play.google.com/books/reader2?id=6MwWAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcov…

Tiene muchos, muchos árboles, pero la página 20 y la página 27 son específicos de nuestra investigación para confirmar todo, desde el post de Yaomautzin Olvera.

Página 10, tiene un error en mi opinión, con el nombre de doña Violante Coutiño

De encontrar el nexo entre ambas familias, estaríamos hablando que existe un nexo directo con la Casa de Avís de Portugal, y por ende con la Casa de Capeto en Francia, con la Lancaster en Inglaterra, con las Coronas de Castilla y la de Aragón, las de Saboya, Nápoles y Sicilia, puediendo extender esa línea genealógica hasta el 700 d.C.

Yaomautzin Olvera

Si tienen los datos, corrijanme o añadan datos de ser posible. Yo desciendo de María Josefa Teodora Corona Pérez de Alencastre (1791-?), quien casó con José Andrés Michel Corona (3 Dic 1785-1829). Ella fue hija de Ignacio Corona y de Francisca Eufrosina Guadalupe Pérez de Alencastre Vázquez (17 Feb 1773 Ejutla, Jalisco - ?), hija de José Manuel Pérez de Alencastre García de Alba y María Rita Vázquez. José Manuel fue hijo de Manuel Antonio Pérez de Alencastre Ruiz Contreras y de María Josefa García de Alba De la Madrid (a su vez hija de Francisco García de Alba y Teodora de la Madrid), quienes casaron el 25 Jul 1724 en Tecolotlán, Jalisco. Manuel Antonio fue hijo de María Ruiz Contreras y Diego Pérez de Alencastre. No estoy seguro de si Diego es hijo de Manuel Pérez de Alencastre y Juana Beltrán Dorantes, pero de ser así he encontrado que supuestamente éste fue Alférez y falleció el 16 Ene 1656 en Sayula, Jalisco.

De la rama de Juana Beltrán Dorantes tengo que ella fue hija de Pedro

Enrique, yo también desciendo de los Pérez de Alencastre, pero no tengo más información que tú... has logrado encontrar más información?

Hello Paige,
I know that they are not the same couples because their children were born in the 1600's. Their names are extremely similar and as you know many couples named their children after ancestors. I know it isn't Kosher, but you could possibly use the information to follow the lines down.

I have Jose Alonso de los Hinojos/Theresa Ruis de Esparsa y Lopez de Lisalde (daughter of Jacinto and Juana Lopez de Lisalde) Her birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-52719-99?cc=1410092&…
Marriage in Aguascaliente: 18 June, 1666 Page 13 Image 16

I'm sure you already have Josef Alonso de los Hinojos/Theresa Ruis de Esparsa (daughter of Ignacio and Elena Sotelo de Jaen). This is the birth of their son Marcos: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12047-88063-96?cc=1410092&…

Good Luck,
Deedra Corona

Hi Paige,
María Margarita de los Dolores López de Velarde and Antonio Alonso de los Hinojos are my 9th Great Grandparents, but, unfortunately I don't have too much information on her. I do know that Margarita de los Dolores López de Velarde married Antonio Alonso de los Hinojos in Teocaltiche on 7 Feb 1734 and according to the marriage record her parents are Francisco López de Velarde  and Juana Marín de Peñalosa, but, beyond that I don't have any more information on her.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19052-57017-98?cc=1874591&wc…
Christopher de Cuellar

Pretty interesting about the Inquistion which were terrible times. I tried looking it up and now see that many people of Nuevo Leon, Mexico were originaly from Portugal that were expelled from Portugal during the persecution of Crypt Jews:

http://www.geni.com/projects/Archive-of-the-Inquisition/12658

I would suggest we organize this meeting at the time that might bring as
many people as possible. Can you help with that. See my phone number below
in the event we need to talk. Thank you.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*
*(323) 728 8455 x212*

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM, pnettleship@lasenora.org
pnettleship@lasenora.org> wrote:

> One of La Senora Research Institute Academic Fellow is an expert on these
> Codices. Dr. John Pohl is his name. When Mexico was celebrating its 150th
> year John got the Museo to mount a major exhibition at the Getty. It was
> phenomenal and John walked around our Patron Members Small Group Tour and
> explained everything that was in the exhibit. But it was LACMA's exhibit
> on Quatzequatel a few months later that most pertained to the Codices.
> There are very, very few copies in existence....John was able to get the
> Bodleian Library at Oxford to loan their copy because they said his
> exhibit was the very first time the

I would suggest we organize this meeting at the time that might bring as
many people as possible. Can you help with that. See my phone number below
in the event we need to talk. Thank you.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*
*(323) 728 8455 x212*

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM, pnettleship@lasenora.org
pnettleship@lasenora.org> wrote:

> One of La Senora Research Institute Academic Fellow is an expert on these
> Codices. Dr. John Pohl is his name. When Mexico was celebrating its 150th
> year John got the Museo to mount a major exhibition at the Getty. It was
> phenomenal and John walked around our Patron Members Small Group Tour and
> explained everything that was in the exhibit. But it was LACMA's exhibit
> on Quatzequatel a few months later that most pertained to the Codices.
> There are very, very few copies in existence....John was able to get the
> Bodleian Library at Oxford to loan their copy because they said his
> exhibit was the very first time the

Ruben

There is a Manuel Santos Tinoco who married Maria de San Juan de Esparza on 9 January 1730, in Aguascalientes, but the matrimonial investigation from December 1729 has him "padres no conosidos."

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

I would be interested. I began my acquisition of copies of codeces with a gift from the Ex-Consul Gen. of Mexico, José Ángel Pescador. His son lives in Los Angeles and I am sure we can also reach out to him.The head of the Latin American museum of art in Long Beach is also a good friend of mine.he may have access to this material plus any artwork.maybe a conference can be set up where many other people can be invited. It is a fascinating subject.

José de Jesús Legaspi
(213) 247-5020

Please forgive my brevity and any errors. This communication is being sent via my PDA.

> On Oct 10, 2014, at 9:02 AM, alice wissing wrote:
>
> There was a posting that asked whether there would be interest in hearing a presentation by Dr. John Pohl about the codices. My answer is an emphatic yes! I've always found the codices fascinating and would love to hear an expert explain what they mean. Are there around 50 members in the L.A. area who would be interested, as well? Please speak up, people!
>
>

I would be interested. I began my acquisition of copies of codeces with a gift from the Ex-Consul Gen. of Mexico, José Ángel Pescador. His son lives in Los Angeles and I am sure we can also reach out to him.The head of the Latin American museum of art in Long Beach is also a good friend of mine.he may have access to this material plus any artwork.maybe a conference can be set up where many other people can be invited. It is a fascinating subject.

José de Jesús Legaspi
(213) 247-5020

Please forgive my brevity and any errors. This communication is being sent via my PDA.

> On Oct 10, 2014, at 9:02 AM, alice wissing wrote:
>
> There was a posting that asked whether there would be interest in hearing a presentation by Dr. John Pohl about the codices. My answer is an emphatic yes! I've always found the codices fascinating and would love to hear an expert explain what they mean. Are there around 50 members in the L.A. area who would be interested, as well? Please speak up, people!
>
>

I would like to learn more. Venue, compensation, dates, etc.

Paul J Gomez
President, Geneological Society of Hispanic America-Southern California Chapter

Paul J Gomez
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2014, at 9:02 AM, alice wissing wrote:
>
> There was a posting that asked whether there would be interest in hearing a presentation by Dr. John Pohl about the codices. My answer is an emphatic yes! I've always found the codices fascinating and would love to hear an expert explain what they mean. Are there around 50 members in the L.A. area who would be interested, as well? Please speak up, people!
>
> Many years back I was in a bookstore and found a book about an Aztec codex. The first page of the actual codex was dedicated to a Viceroy Hurtado de Mendoza. I was later told by another researcher that the viceroy had a half-sister named Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza, who appears in the genealogy of many people from the Los Altos area. Although I have never been able to substantiate this

Alcalde Ordinario - magistrate or the one you would see for the first
hearing

Alcalde Mayor - Administrator of justice, the final administrator of
justice after the magistrate

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Mia Montemayor
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Can anyone in the forum tell me what the difference is between an alcalde
> ordinario and an alcalde mayor?
>
> Mia

R A Ricci...how do I get in touch with you, by phone or email?

I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one for
the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well as
pre-hispanic history.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM, wrote:

> Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial times.
> There are so many of them as I am looking at them.

I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one for
the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well as
pre-hispanic history.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM, wrote:

> Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial times.
> There are so many of them as I am looking at them.

Jose Ignacio Anaya Gomez
me uno a la pena que te embarga y espero en Dios te de consuelo y fortaleza descanse en paz .

Hola Ruben,

Donde se encuentra este censo? Tiene un enlace/link?

Gracias
Sergio

And, ojalá for Inch Allah.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Raul Padilla
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And, ojalá for Inch Allah.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Raul Padilla
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My Greek friends also told me that they use "camisa" for shirt and "pantalones" for trousers. What was the common language that Arabic and Greeks, etc derived from?

> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:13:52 -0700
> From: raulyblanca826@gmail.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22
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> My Palestinian relatives have also told me about azuc for azucar and zapat
> for zapatos, who knew? Very interesting, I think.
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Sorry everyone I attached the wrong file, let me try this again.

Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

Arturo Ramos wrote:
I have today made a breakthrough in one of my paternal grandmother's
lineages that takes me back to Jalostotitlan and Tepatitlan. I know
that there are lots of members with Alteno lineages so I am hoping I
can tie in with someone that has researched this family:

Generation: 1
Jose VALLEJO
Jose m. Micaela CORNEJO

Children:
2. (Juan) Lucas VALLEJO CORNEJO

Generation: 2
(Juan) Lucas VALLEJO CORNEJO (1.Jose1)
(Juan) m. Tomasa HERRERA DELGADILLO 30 Jul 1713, Tepatitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO.

Children:
3. Micaela VALLEJO HERRERA
4. Juan Lucas VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1725; c. 3 May 1725, Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco, MEXICO.
5. Miguel Gordiano VALLEJO DELGADILLO b. 1727; c. 13 Jul 1727,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO.
6. Antonio Justo VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1729; c. 28 Aug 1729,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO; d. 11 May 1789.
7. Francisco Gregorio VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1734; c. 24 Mar

Arturo Ramos wrote: I have today made a breakthrough in one of my paternal grandmother's
lineages that takes me back to Jalostotitlan and Tepatitlan. I know
that there are lots of members with Alteno lineages so I am hoping I
can tie in with someone that has researched this family:

Generation: 1
Jose VALLEJO
Jose m. Micaela CORNEJO

Children:
2. (Juan) Lucas VALLEJO CORNEJO

Generation: 2
(Juan) Lucas VALLEJO CORNEJO (1.Jose1)
(Juan) m. Tomasa HERRERA DELGADILLO 30 Jul 1713, Tepatitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO.

Children:
3. Micaela VALLEJO HERRERA
4. Juan Lucas VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1725; c. 3 May 1725, Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco, MEXICO.
5. Miguel Gordiano VALLEJO DELGADILLO b. 1727; c. 13 Jul 1727,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO.
6. Antonio Justo VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1729; c. 28 Aug 1729,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO; d. 11 May 1789.
7. Francisco Gregorio VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1734; c. 24 Mar 1734,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, MEXICO.
8. Ana Gertrudis VALLEJO HERRERA b. 1736; c. 5 Aug 1736

No.
On Oct 3, 2014 5:08 PM, wrote:

> Have any of you have an personal or favorite items such as jewelry,
> watch, painting, etc of your ancestors that was passed down for
> generations?

Do check out our website www.thelegaspi.com and the various malls we own
and or manage in the US. They all celebrate Hispanics year round.

La Gran Plaza de Fort Worth; Plaza Fiesta de Atlanta; Desert Sky Mall in
Phoenix, Panorama Mall Los Angeles, Pacific View in Ventura; Plaza Mayor in
Oklahoma City. We hold Fiestas Patrias and events such as Dia de la Virgen
de Guadalupe.

*Very sincerely yours,*

*José de Jesús Legaspi*

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:54 PM
> To: mimilozano@aol.com
> Subject: Somos Primos October 2014
>
> Somos Primos, October 2014
> Please cut and paste:
> http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2014/spoct14/spoct14.htm
> Dear Primos and Friends:
>
> Lots of good news: Not only is the general public being informed about
> the historic presence of Latinos in the United States through public media,
> more and

Alice,
I have been trying to find someone with the Jaurigui name and was wondering if you might have a connection that I haven't found.

My father-in-law Henry Michael Ortega's father was Jose Manuel Jauriqui y Ortega Sanchez. He immigrated from Mexico City to New York in approximately 1933. He changed his name and used aliases but I was able to find his christening record from 30 August 1904 and says he was born 30 July 1904. In the Mexico, Distrito Federal, Parroquia de Santa Ana records. His father is listed as Crescencio Jauriqui y Ortega and his mother as Enriqueta Sanchez.

I was not able to find anything prior to them so I don't know if they come from somewhere other than Mexico City. Could Crescencio Jauriqui y Ortega come from your Jauriqui line that you are researching?

Thanks for any help.
-Julia

That is superinteresting. My family name is Legaspi. My grandfather was Legaspi Jauregui. The Legazpi name came to Nochistlan in the early 1600s. When it first appeared in Tlaxcala w Miguel Lopez de Legazpi who was born in Zumarraga within the Province of Guipuzcoa. The reason Basques were active in the military and subsequent exploration of the world for imperial Spain was because of the iron works and ship building. I would like to know more about your work, Alice.

José de Jesús Legaspi
(213) 247-5020

Please forgive my brevity and any errors. This communication is being sent via my PDA.

> On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:06 AM, alice wissing wrote:
>
> I found information on a Jauregui family of Seville while reading the book "Linajudos and Conversos in Seville" by Ruth Pike. I think it is possible this family from Seville has a connection to the one mentioned on Nuestros Ranchos. Miguel Martinez de Jauregui was a Northerner from Najera, Logrono (his father from Vergara) who migrated to

That is superinteresting. My family name is Legaspi. My grandfather was Legaspi Jauregui. The Legazpi name came to Nochistlan in the early 1600s. When it first appeared in Tlaxcala w Miguel Lopez de Legazpi who was born in Zumarraga within the Province of Guipuzcoa. The reason Basques were active in the military and subsequent exploration of the world for imperial Spain was because of the iron works and ship building. I would like to know more about your work, Alice.

José de Jesús Legaspi
(213) 247-5020

Please forgive my brevity and any errors. This communication is being sent via my PDA.

> On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:06 AM, alice wissing wrote:
>
> I found information on a Jauregui family of Seville while reading the book "Linajudos and Conversos in Seville" by Ruth Pike. I think it is possible this family from Seville has a connection to the one mentioned on Nuestros Ranchos. Miguel Martinez de Jauregui was a Northerner from Najera, Logrono (his father from Vergara) who migrated to

The marriage record is at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15188-351-83

There were many families with the surname Jáuregui. We shouldn't be jumping
to conclusions that it is the same family just because there is a surname
in common. There needs to be more substantial evidence.

Armando

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM, alice wissing
wrote:

> I found information on a Jauregui family of Seville while reading the
> book "Linajudos and Conversos in Seville" by Ruth Pike. I think it is
> possible this family from Seville has a connection to the one mentioned on
> Nuestros Ranchos. Miguel Martinez de Jauregui was a Northerner from Najera,
> Logrono (his father from Vergara) who migrated to Seville in the sixteenth
> century to engage in trade with the New World. He made a fortune shipping
> iron to America, which was a typical activity of Basque merchants. He also
> owned a vessel in the carrera de Indias. The woman he married, Isabel
> Hurtado de la Sal, was the daughter of

Andelmo Perez

So is this census just for Mexico City or all of Nueva Galicia? Anyway which quartel covers which part?

Regards,
Andelmo

Where on the website can I find it?

Jose de Jesus Legaspi

This sounds terrific. It will be great to attend. I will check my schedule and RSVP. Can you tell me how long as the group been together? Any results from the effort? I would be very interested. I have been doing quite a bit of work on this subject matter, especially as it relates to my family name, Legaspi, which has been in area since the early 1600s. I have been able to piece together quite a few branches with noticeable info which has not been confirmed as yet. Also, about Nochistlan and its history relevance to the Nueva Galicia and the subsequent evolution of the Altos de Jalisco.

unfortunately i can't come. it's too far away and i'm not sure how to get transportation there.