brick wall in Tamazula Jalisco and Sayula Jalisco

Hi,
I am trying to solve a couple of brickwalls in my family tree

Miguel Munguia, born in Tamazula, Jalisco in 1768 his father is Carlos Munguia and his mother Theresa de Coria.
his wife is Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda daugther of Juan Peres Valdes and Maria Gertrudis de Siordia.

That is as far as I go there

On the other branch is Jose Barragan married on april 25, 1820 in Sayula, Jalisco with Maria Monica Cobian.

Monica´s mother is Nicolasa Michel and her father is Tomas Cobian.

I hope you can help me with this two branches, I am really stock there

Thanks for your help

Hola,

Estoy tratando de encontrar un par de piezas perdidas en mi árbol

Miguel Munguia, nacido en Tamazula, Jalisco en 1768 su padre es Carlos Munguia y su madre Theresa de Coria.
Su esposa es Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda hija de Juan Peres Valdes y Maria Gertrudis de Siordia.

Por otro lado
Jose Barragan casado el 25 de 1820 en Sayula, Jalisco con Maria Monica Cobian
la mamá de Monica es Nicolasa Michel y su padre es Tomas Cobian.

Espero me puedan ayudar estoy atoradisima con estos dos y el sabado tengo una reunion de esa familia y les quiero enseñar el árbol lo mas completo posible

Se que con su ayuda lo puedo lograr, Muchas Gracias

Patty Haro

Dear Patty,

The Brick wall of the Munguia family tree has been knocked down. I just posted the Munguia line going from Carlos Munguia III, born in the 1750's to Nicolas Munguia born in the early 1600's. Look for the post "question regarding the Mollinedo y Villaseñor line"

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Patty,

My cousin also descends from your ancestor Miguel Munguia. i have different dates on him than yours. I have him as getting married on 25/ Nov/1767 so he couldn't have been born in 1768. I also have four siblings in my records and most were born in the 1740's with one born in 1751.

My cousin descends from Miguel's son Jose Athanazio Munguia Valdez (baptized 10/May/1777) and his wife Juana N. Ortiz y Zarate. Jose Athanazio Munguia and Juana are the parents of Ma. Josepha Gpe Munguia (bap. 16/Nov/1810) who married Jose Maria Ramon Natal.

Rick A. Ricci

Jose Carlos de Leon
hope this helps!

Name Maria Monica Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 16 May 1762
Christening place San Antonio, Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco, Mexico
Father name Thomas Cobian
Mother name Nicolasa Michel
Batch number C02641-5
Record group Mexico-EASy
Film number 634895
Reference number v 5 p 43

Name Maria Bonifacia De Jesus Barragan Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 03 May 1806
Christening place SAYULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father name Jose Barragan
Mother name Maria Monica Cobian
Batch number C60348-2
Record group Mexico-ODM
Film number unknown

Name Jose Julian Barragan Cobian
Gender Male
Christening date 09 Jan 1793
Christening place SAYULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father name Jose Barragan
Mother name Maria Monica Cobian
Batch number J60347-9
Record group Mexico-ODM
Film number 224938

Name Maria Josefa Florentina Barragan Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 19 Mar 1791
Christening place SAYULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father name Jose Barragan
Mother name Monica Cobian
Batch number K60347-9
Record group Mexico-ODM
Film number 224938

THIS LOOKS LIKE THEM BUT IN 1793

Name Jose Julian Barragan Cobian
Gender Male
Christening date 09 Jan 1793
Christening place SAYULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father name Jose Barragan
Mother name Maria Monica Cobian
Batch number J60347-9
Record group Mexico-ODM
Film number 224938

Name Maria Josefa Florentina Barragan Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 19 Mar 1791
Christening place SAYULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father name Jose Barragan
Mother name Monica Cobian
Batch number K60347-9
Record group Mexico-ODM
Film number 224938

PARENTS INFO
Name Maria Jervasia Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 13 Aug 1768
Christening place San Antonio, Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco, Mexico
Father name Tomas Cobian
Mother name Nicolasa Michel
Batch number C02641-5
Record group Mexico-EASy
Film number 634895
Reference number v 6

Name Maria Joachina Cobian
Gender Female
Christening date 09 Apr 1764
Christening place San Antonio, Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco, Mexico
Father name Thomas De Aquino Cobian
Mother name Nicolasa Michel
Batch number C02641-5
Record group Mexico-EASy
Film number 634895
Reference number v 5

Groom name Josef Cobian
Bride name Maria Crisanta Samora
Marriage date 17 Dec 1783
Marriage place San Antonio, Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco, Mexico
Father of groom name Thomas Cobian
Mother of groom name Maria Nicolasa Michel
Father of bride name Juan Antonio Samora
Mother of bride name Maria Candelaria Abalos
Batch number M00875-2
Record group Mexico-EASy
Film number 611924
Reference number Film 611924

Patty I also decend from this Munguia line, my ancestor was Merced (Maria
Eulogia) Munguia, married to Longino Gutierrez, they are my gr-grandparents on
my Mothers (Dolores Gutierrez (1924-1979) paternal side.  My records go no
further than yours but I think they were in Michoacan before Jalisco but have
not been able to prove it. My records are posted on Rootsweb.com, file is called
Mexico.  You can go to the index or you can go to family tree, then to pedigree
in text form to see my lineage by putting in my Mothers name and birth date.
I hope we can be of help to each other.
Linda Castanon-Long
Marietta, Ga

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Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 7:59:17 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] brick wall in Tamazula Jalisco and Sayula Jalisco

Hi, I am trying to solve a couple of brickwalls in my family tree

Miguel Munguia, born in Tamazula, Jalisco in 1768 his father is Carlos Munguia
and his mother Theresa de Coria.
his wife is Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda daugther of  Juan Peres Valdes and Maria
Gertrudis de Siordia.

That is as far as I go there

On the other branch is Jose Barragan married on april 25, 1820 in Sayula,
Jalisco with Maria Monica Cobian.

Monica´s mother is Nicolasa Michel and her father is Tomas Cobian.

I hope you can help me with this two branches, I am really stock there

Thanks for your help

Hola,

Estoy tratando de encontrar un par de piezas perdidas en mi árbol

Miguel Munguia, nacido en Tamazula, Jalisco en 1768 su padre es Carlos Munguia y
su madre Theresa de Coria.
Su esposa es Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda hija de  Juan Peres Valdes y Maria
Gertrudis de Siordia.

Por otro lado
Jose Barragan casado el 25 de 1820 en Sayula, Jalisco con Maria Monica Cobian
la mamá de Monica es Nicolasa Michel y su padre es Tomas Cobian.

Espero me puedan ayudar estoy atoradisima con estos dos y el sabado tengo una
reunion de esa familia y les quiero enseñar el árbol lo mas completo posible

Se que con su ayuda lo puedo lograr, Muchas Gracias

Patty Haro

Hernando Garcia De Alva

Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

spouse:
Clara Gusman

record title:
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

name:
Juan Manuel Garcia Gusman

gender:
Male

christening date:
23 Apr 1714

christening place:
CORAZON DE JESUS,TECOLOTLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO

father name:
Hernando Garcia De Alva

mother name:
Clara Gusman

batch number:
J60266-1

record group:
Mexico-ODM

Hernando Garcia De Alva

Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

spouse:
Clara De Gusman

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom name:
Nicolas Garcia De Alva

bride name:
Cecilia Theresa Cobarrubias Y Villasenor

marriage date:
31 Jan 1757

marriage place:
El Sagrario, Autlan De Navarro, Jalisco, Mexico

father of groom name:
Hernando Garcia De Alva

mother of groom name:
Clara De Gusman

father of bride name:
Leonardo Cobarrubias

mother of bride name:
Josepha Cobian Y Villasenor

batch number:
M60445-8

record group:
Mexico-VR

Thereza De Coria

Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

spouse:
Carlos Munguia

marriage:
15 Nov 1739 — San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom name:
Carlos Munguia

bride name:
Thereza De Coria

marriage date:
15 Nov 1739

marriage place:
San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico

batch number:
M39561-7

record group:
Mexico-EASy
Antonia Teresa de coria y Villaseñor

Posibles Padres?..

Catharina De Coria Y Villasenor
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

parents:
Antonio Felis De Coria, Antonia De Villasenor

spouse:
Luis Beltran De Pardo

marriage:
14 Jun 1741 — San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom name:
Luis Beltran De Pardo

bride name:
Catharina De Coria Y Villasenor

marriage date:
14 Jun 1741

marriage place:
San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico

father of bride name:
Antonio Felis De Coria

mother of bride name:
Antonia De Villasenor

batch number:
M39561-7

record group:
Mexico-EASy

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Name
Juana Gertrudis Siordia

Gender
Female

Christening date
30 Sep 1749

Christening place
Amatlán de Cañas, Nayarit, Mexico

Father name
Mariano Siordia

Mother name
Anastasia

Batch number
C60237-1

Record group
Mexico-EASy

Film number
253013

Reference number
2:1B67RCJ

>
> Thanks for your help
>
>
>
> Hola,
>
> Estoy tratando de encontrar un par de piezas perdidas en mi árbol
>
> Miguel Munguia, nacido en Tamazula, Jalisco en 1768 su padre es Carlos Munguia y
> su madre Theresa de Coria.
> Su esposa es Eufrasia Rosalia Castañeda hija de Juan Peres Valdes y Maria
> Gertrudis de Siordia.
>
> Por otro lado
> Jose Barragan casado el 25 de 1820 en Sayula, Jalisco con Maria Monica Cobian
> la mamá de Monica es Nicolasa Michel y su padre es Tomas Cobian.
>
> Espero me puedan ayudar estoy atoradisima con estos dos y el sabado tengo una
> reunion de esa familia y les quiero enseñar el árbol lo mas completo posible
>
> Se que con su ayuda lo puedo lograr, Muchas Gracias
>
> Patty Haro
>
>
>
>
>

Dear Patty,

One brickwall knocked down.

Maria Antonia Theresa Coria y Villaseñor married to Carlos Juan Munguia

Antonia Villaseñor y Borgia and Antonio Felis de Coria- Peralta

Matias Villaseñor Cervantes y Nuñez del Rincon and Antonia Rodriguez Antúñez de Borgia (Borja).

Capitan Francisco de Villaseñor Cervantes y Patiño and Ines Nuñez Hidalgo del Rincon

Juan de Villaseñor Cervantes y Guesca and Maria Patiño de Herrera y Pereyra

Francisco de Villaseñor y Cervantes and Leonor de Guesca (Gasca) y Reus

Conquistador Juan Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (born 1500) and Catalina Cervantes de Andrada Lara

Diego de Burgos Tovar (Villaseñor) (born prior 1455) and his second wife Guiomar Horosco y Sandoval (born prior 1481)

Diego de Villaseñor y Tovar (born between 1405-1420) Isabel de Villaseñor (Daughter of Alfonso Villaseñor)

Comendador Juan Villaseñor Seron (Serone/Seronis) married to Elvira de Tovar y Enriquez de Castilla

Diego Villaseñor alcaide de Segovía married to Maria Serones (Seron)

Fernan A. Villaseñor marries Aldonza Gutierrez de Tapia

Elvira Osórez and Alfonso F. Villaseñor

Fernando Osórez maestro de Santiago, d. 1383)

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The godparents of Carlos Juan Munguia Maciel and Maria Antonia Theresa Coria are Antonio de Villaseñor y Bribiesca and Anna Francisca Munguia Maciel

Antonio de Villaseñor y Bribiesca's Villaseñor ancestral line:

Antonio de Villaseñor Cervantes y Antúnez and Luisa Bribiesca y Galindo

Matias Villaseñor Cervantes y Nuñez del Rincon and Antonia Rodriguez Antúñez de Borgia (Borja)

Capitan Francisco de Villaseñor Cervantes y Patiño and Ines Nuñez Hidalgo del Rincon

Juan de Villaseñor Cervantes y Guesca and Maria Patiño de Herrera y Pereyra

Francisco de Villaseñor y Cervantes and Leonor de Guesca (Gasca) y Reus

Conquistador Juan Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (born 1500) and Catalina Cervantes de Andrada Lara

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Maria Antonia Theresa Coria y Villaseñor married to Carlos Juan Munguia Maciel

Antonio Coria- Peralta Rincon and Antonia Villaseñor Borgia

Alonso Coria Peralta Lopez and Ana Nuñez Hidalgo Fernandez del Rincon

Manuel Coria- Peralta Regado and Cathalina Lomelin Olmo.