in some cases, the result of Spaniards marrying the "local girls" ........is
this what you are referring to, Arturo? I do not understand
these numbers.....I am just trying to make heads or tails out of it......and to
justify the $$$$ I spent to get these numbers! :-)
me some clues as to my ancestors, the migration pattern they followed,
etc. I have only researched about three or four generations on my Dad's
maternal line and three or four on my Mom's maternal and paternal lines so I
have a long way to go. I have been focusing on my Dad's paternal Trevino
lineage and go "way back" to about the 1400s in Spain.
regarding Y-DNA and mtDNA because I am slowing learning a little here and
there. What I really like is finding out that I have matches to a few in
this group, Linda, Victor, Arturo and an exact match with Ed! Even though
I have never met any of you in person I do feel a connection! The
only grandparent I knew was my Mom's father and he died when I was 7 years
old. My other grandparents died before I was born. I only have one
brother so you can see that my familia is very small.......maybe that is why I
am always looking for "mi gente!" I have met several primos and
primas (live ones!) through genealogy and it feels good when we share
information and discover that our great-grandparents were brothers/sisters and
here we are digging up their information!
on mtDNA. color=#0000ff size=2>
ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Arturo Ramos
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:04 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A
ancestor---we are a match
Gary is only focused on yDNA... paternal lines and his group is
very
much focused on the "conquistadores" and Spanish lineages.
The
mtDNA data for Mexico shows that most of the maternal genetic
material in
modern Mexico is indigenous and given the demographic
collapse that occured
shortly after contact with the Spanish, and the
subsequent movement of
indigenous labor around the country, the mtDNA
information would draw a very
different picture than the data Gary is
gathering.
We might be able
to trace the ethnic groups of our indigenous
ancestors or at the very least
learn about the migration patterns and
settlement waves that resulted in the
indigenous population of Mexico.
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com,
"Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
>
Arturo,
>
> I thought Gary Felix' was the Mexico DNA group.
>
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: Arturo
Ramos<mailto:arturo.ramos2@v...>
> To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:52
AM
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor---we are a
match
>
>
> Margarita:
>
> Is your father still living? If he did the test, you
would be
able
> to trace both his maternal (mtDNA) and
paternal (yDNA) lineages.
If
> your cousin Humberto
did it, he would not have your father's yDNA
but
> would
have his mtDNA, whereas if your cousin Bobby did it, he
would
> have your father's yDNA but not your father's mtDNA.
However,
his
> father (your uncle) would have the same
yDNA and mtDNA as your
> father. I guess you could have
to have both of them do the
test...
> Humberto can do the
mtDNA and Bobby can do the yDNA.
>
> If you join Gary
Felix's project you can get a 12-marker yDNA for
$99
>
and a low-resolution mtDNA for $129. You get a discount on the
yDNA
> through Gary's project but not for the mtDNA (because his
is a
yDNA-
> based project only)...
>
> Maybe we need to start up a Mexico mtDNA project!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza
<TeaCozyGran@k...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
Well, as I've said before, I can't do this test at all because
me
> mum
> > wasn't Hispanic.
If I have one of my male cousins do this,
would I
>
get
> > some usable answers if his mother is my aunt
or his father my
> uncle?
>
> In other words, if my cousin Humberto did it, his mother is my
> father's
> > sister or if my
cousin Bobby did it, his dad was my dad's
brother,
> > which would be the better candidate? Marge
V:)
> >
> > On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:35
AM, Edward Serros wrote:
> >
> > >
Josie,
> > >
> > > I guess
we shouldn't be surprised that some of us are
related
>
since
> > > we are studying
our
> > > ancestors that came from the same area.
Today I checked my
> mtDNA
> >
> results which I
> > > haven't done for awhile
and you are an exact match at a low
> > >
resolution level to my
> > > paternal grandmother,
Maria Felguerez (via Cecilia
Isordia). I
>
did
> > > not realize who you
>
> > were.
> > >
> >
> Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you did not do
the
> HVR2
> > > and you
have
> > > extra money lying around, I would be
interested to see if we
> are
> >
> related at an even closer
> > > (high
resolution) level.
> > >
> >
> Welcome to the tribe. Now I have to look up all the material
you
> have
> > > in the
Ranchos
> > > database. My grandmother's data is
below.
> > >
> > > Even
though I said that we shouldn't be surprised, I am.
Amazing.
> > >
> > >
Abrazos,
> > >
> > >
Ed
> > >
> > > HVR1
Haplogroup A
> > > HVR1
differences
> > > from CRS
>
> > 16223T
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 16290T
> > >
    Â
> > > 16319A
> >
> Â Â Â Â Â
> > >
16362C
> > >
> > > HVR2
differences
> > > from CRS
>
> > 64T
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 73G
> > > Â Â
  Â
> > > 146C
> >
> Â Â Â Â Â
> > >
153G
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> >
> 182T
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 235G
> > > Â
   Â
> > > 263G
> >
> Â Â Â Â Â
> > >
315.1C
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> >
> 522-
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 523-
> >
>
> > >
> > > --- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
>
<Josiett3@s...>
> > >
wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > Arturo......it seems that I match four of your six
> mutations. Does
> > >
this
> > > > mean we are related 'way 'way
back?  Linda.....I also
match
> four
> > > of yours.
> > >
> Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am pretty sure
we
> share
> > > a
few
> > > > also. I haven't had a chance
to do much more on this but
> hopefully
> > > I will
> > > >
after the holidays.   Thanks!   Josie in San
Antonio
> > > >Â
> >
> >Â
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > > HVR1
Haplogroup
> > > >
> >
> > A
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > > HVR1
differences
> > > >
> >
> > from
> > > >
> > > <
href="http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?">http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?
<
href="http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?">http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?>
> > >
kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9
> > > >
2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%
A7%B3%
>
85%
> > > A4%9E%C9%A
> >
> >
7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%
B2%99%
>
7C%
> > > 83%B9%AD%C
> >
> > F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS
> >
> >
> > > >
16223T
> > > >
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > >
16290T
> > > >
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > >
16319A
> > > >
> >
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > >
16362C
> > > >
> >
> >Â
> > > >
>
> > >Â Â
> > >
>
> > > >
> >
> >Â Â _____Â
> > >
>
> > > > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > > Behalf Of
> > >
> Arturo Ramos
> > > > Sent: Wednesday,
November 16, 2005 1:06 PM
> > > > To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject:
[ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > >
>
> > > >
> >
> > Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
> > >
>
> > > > I too am a haplogroup A with the
following mutations:
> > >
>
> > > > 16111T
> >
> > 16223T
> > > >
16290T
> > > > 16319A
> >
> > 16362C
> > > >
16390A
> > > >
> >
> > I have traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa
Magallanes
> born
> > >
> circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most likely
> Tepecano
> > > > (Southern
Tepehuan) but who knows... by that time the
Spanish
>
were
> > > > really pushing up the production
of the mine in Bolanos
and
> brought
>
> > > in a lot of other labor to the area.
>
> > >
> > > > --- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"
> > >
<raices_regias@y...>
> > > >
wrote:
> > > > >
> >
> > > Josie & Linda,
> > > >
>
> > > > > We share the same haplogroup
A. Although we're not an
> exact
match
> > > > we
> >
> > > do match on some numbers. Since we're dealing here
with
> > > > mitochondrial
>
> > > > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that
our
> female
> > > >
common
> > > > > ancestor lived thousands of
years ago, in prehistorical
> times.
> >
> > >
> > > > > Mitochondrial
DNA is best suited to determine what is
> called
"Deep
> > > > > Ancestry" of our maternal
lineage. We definitely share
the
>
same
> > > > > Native American roots in the
distant past.
> > > > >
>
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
>
> > > > > Victor
>
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > > > > --- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
>
<Josiett3@s...>
> > > >
wrote:
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > Message: 8Â Â Â Â Â Â Date: Wed, 19 Oct
2005
03:55:34 -
> 000Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > From:
> > > >
> "Erlinda
> > > > > > Castanon-Long"
<longsjourney@y...>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup
A ancestor
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Victor you do match me
on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo
group
> A
> > > 16111T
> > > >
> 16223T
> > > > > > 16290T 16319A
16335G 16362C 16526A
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Josie, what were your
numbers if you don't mind
sharing?
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Linda in
Everett
> > > > > >
>
> > > > >
> > >
=======================================================
> >
> ==========
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Hi Linda.....Hi
Victor!
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > Is this what you are referring to
(below)
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > HVR1> CRS
> > >
> > > 16223T
> > > > > >
16290T
> > > > > >
16319A
> > > > > >
16362C
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > I just printed all this out last night and really
did
not
> read
> > >
it
> > > > > (properly)
>
> > > > > due to a lack of time. I have been in
Houston for a
week
> and
> >
> > unable
> > > > > to
do
> > > > > > "my thing" with my
genealogy/DNA projects. What do
> these
> > > numbers
> > > >
> mean?  If
> > > > > > any
match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we
have
> a
> > >
common
> > > > >
ancestor
> > > > > >
"somewhere"....? Please feel free to enlighten me as
I
> know
> > > >
absolutely
> > > > > > nothing about
"this new DNA stuff"......I guess that
tells
>
my
> > > > age! Â
:-)
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > Abrazos desde San Antonio,
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
Josie
> > > > > >
>
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > > >
Aguascalientes
> > > >
> > > <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>
> > >
t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cri
>
> > >
minal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
>
> > +hotel&w6=Fiesta
> > > >
>
+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=3dGDyzZK1JYlft_kl5Y0RA>
>
> > > Criminal
> > > >
> > > <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>
> > >
t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=
>
> > >
Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
>
> > +hotel&w6=Fie
> > > >
>
sta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=rIqx_vlal4c5USviDDmPCQ>
> > > offenses
> > > >
Zacatecas
> > > >
>
> > <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>
> > >
t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal
>
> > >
> > >
>
+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiest
>
a
> > > +amer
> > >
>
icana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=0I9QabaLqZysHNkjQQ8kLA>Â
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> >
> > Zacatecas
> > > > <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Zacatecas<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas>
>
> > +mexico&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=C
> >
> >
riminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
>
> > +hotel&w6=Fies
> > > >
>
ta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=cOINbNYO1WJJy2BT4tgmBA>
> > > mexico
> > > >
Zacatecas
> > > > <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Zacatecas<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas>
>
> > +hotel&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cr
> >
> >
iminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
>
> > +hotel&w6=Fiest
> > > >
>
a+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=IlWErASU8JXH8YNhGBk9hQ>
> > > hotel
> > > >
Fiesta
> > > >
> >
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>
> > >
t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=Agua
> >
> >
scalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas
>
> > +mexico&w5=Zacateca
> > > >
s+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana
> > >
+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=VhhnwMFlUbMHR432Rt
>
> > > NUkw> americana aguascalientes     Â
> > > >
> > >
>Â Â _____Â
> > >
>
> > > > YAHOO! GROUPS
LINKS
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > > *Â Â Â Â Â Visit your group
"ranchos
> > >
<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/r">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/r
anchos>>
"
> > > > on the web.
> >
> >Â Â
> > > >
>
> > > *Â Â Â Â Â To unsubscribe from this group, send an
to:
> > > >Â
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
<mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
>
subject=Unsubscribe>
> > > >Â Â
> > > >
> > >
> *Â Â Â Â Â Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
Yahoo!
> Terms of
> > >
Service
> > > >
<
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/<
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>>
.
>
> > >
> > >
>
> > > >Â Â _____
>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS
LINKS
> > >
> >
> â-ª
 Visit your group "ranchos" on the web.
> > > Â
> > >
â-ª Â To unsubscribe from this group, send
an
email to:
> > > Â
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > Â
> > >
â-ª Â Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
to the
Yahoo!
> Terms of
> >
> Service.
> > >
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS Aguascalientes<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacate
cas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana+aguasca
lientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=3dGDyzZK1JYlft_kl5Y0RA>
Criminal
offenses<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zac
atecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana+agua
scalientes&c=6&s=138&sig=rIqx_vlal4c5USviDDmPCQ>
Zacatecas<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w
4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana+aguascalient
es&c=6&s=138&.sig=0I9QabaLqZysHNkjQQ8kLA>
> Zacatecas mexico<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Zacatecas+mexico&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zaca
tecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana+aguas
calientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=cOINbNYO1WJJy2BT4tgmBA>
Zacatecas
hotel<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Zacatecas+hotel&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacat
ecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana+aguasc
alientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=IlWErASU8JXH8YNhGBk9hQ>
Fiesta americana
aguascalientes<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal+o
ffenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta+
americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=VhhnwMFlUbMHR432RtNUkw>
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
>
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> a.. Visit
your
group "ranchos<
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos>"
on the web.
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send
an email to:
>
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos-
unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
to the Yahoo! Terms
of Service<
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
>
- Log in to post comments
|
Arturo, I thought Gary Felix' was the Mexico DNA group. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ---
|
- Log in to post comments
class=465174104-18112005>Hi to my newest
Primo!
for the warm welcome! The information I received with the test
results states that "No high resolution (HVR1+HVR2) matches were
found." I sent in my brother's DNA sample for the "Y-DNA25" and
the "mtDNA" tests and was informed that on the Low Resolution (HVR1) there
were 10 matches. All this is new to me and I am trying to learn as
much as I can about DNA......believe me, I need all the help I can
get! :-) If you want to review the details let me know and I
will be glad to share with you.
Antonio......Josie
class=465174104-18112005> color=#0000ff>
class=465174104-18112005>
class=465174104-18112005>
class=465174104-18112005> ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Edward
Serros
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:35 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A
ancestor---we are a match
Josie,
I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us
are related since we are studying our
ancestors that came from the same
area. Today I checked my mtDNA results which I
haven't done for awhile and
you are an exact match at a low resolution level to my
paternal grandmother,
Maria Felguerez (via Cecilia Isordia). I did not realize who you
were.
Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you did not do the
HVR2 and you have
extra money lying around, I would be interested to see if
we are related at an even closer
(high resolution) level.
Welcome to
the tribe. Now I have to look up all the material you have in the Ranchos
database. My grandmother's data is below.
Even though I said that we
shouldn't be surprised, I am. Amazing.
Abrazos,
Ed
HVR1
Haplogroup A
HVR1 differences
from
CRS
16223T
16290T
16319A
16362C
HVR2
differences
from CRS
64T
73G
146C
153G
182T
235G
263G
315.1C
522-
523-
--- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" <Josiett3@s...>
wrote:
>
> Arturo......it seems that I match four of your six
mutations. Does this
> mean we are related 'way 'way
back? Linda.....I also match four of yours.
> Victor.....I
don't have your numbers but I am pretty sure we share a few
> also.
I haven't had a chance to do much more on this but hopefully I will
>
after the holidays. Thanks! Josie in San
Antonio
>
>
>
>
> HVR1
Haplogroup
>
> A
>
>
> HVR1 differences
>
> from
> <
href="http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9">http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9
>
2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%85%
A4%9E%C9%A
>
7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%7C%
83%B9%AD%C
>
F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS
>
> 16223T
>
>
> 16290T
>
>
> 16319A
>
>
> 16362C
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Arturo Ramos
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:06
PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup
A ancestor
>
>
> Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
>
> I too am a haplogroup A with the following mutations:
>
>
16111T
> 16223T
> 16290T
> 16319A
> 16362C
>
16390A
>
> I have traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa
Magallanes born
> circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most
likely Tepecano
> (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that time the
Spanish were
> really pushing up the production of the mine in Bolanos
and brought
> in a lot of other labor to the area.
>
> ---
In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...>
>
wrote:
> >
> > Josie & Linda,
> >
> >
We share the same haplogroup A. Although we're not an exact match
>
we
> > do match on some numbers. Since we're dealing here with
> mitochondrial
> > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it
means that our female
> common
> > ancestor lived thousands of
years ago, in prehistorical times.
> >
> > Mitochondrial DNA
is best suited to determine what is called "Deep
> > Ancestry" of our
maternal lineage. We definitely share the same
> > Native
American roots in the distant past.
> >
> > Warm
Regards,
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
>
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" <Josiett3@s...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Message:
8 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:34
-000 From:
> >
"Erlinda
> > > Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@y...>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > >
> > > Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group A
16111T
> > 16223T
> > > 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C
16526A
> > >
> > > Josie, what were your numbers if you
don't mind sharing?
> > >
> > > Linda in
Everett
> > >
> > >
=======================================================
==========
>
> >
> > > Hi Linda.....Hi Victor!
> > >
>
> > Is this what you are referring to (below)
> > >
>
> > HVR1> CRS
> > > 16223T
> > > 16290T
>
> > 16319A
> > > 16362C
> > >
> > > I
just printed all this out last night and really did not read it
> >
(properly)
> > > due to a lack of time. I have been in Houston
for a week and
> unable
> > to do
> > > "my thing"
with my genealogy/DNA projects. What do these numbers
> >
mean? If
> > > any match to you (Linda & Victor)
does that mean we have a common
> > ancestor
> > >
"somewhere"....? Please feel free to enlighten me as I know
>
absolutely
> > > nothing about "this new DNA stuff"......I guess
that tells my
> age! :-)
> > >
> > >
Abrazos desde San Antonio,
> > >
> > > Josie
>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Aguascalientes
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cri">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cri
>
minal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fiesta
>
+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=3dGDyzZK1JYlft_kl5Y0RA>
>
Criminal
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=
>
Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fie
>
sta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=rIqx_vlal4c5USviDDmPCQ>
offenses
> Zacatecas
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal
>
+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta
+amer
>
icana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=0I9QabaLqZysHNkjQQ8kLA>
> Zacatecas
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
+mexico&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=C
>
riminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fies
>
ta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=cOINbNYO1WJJy2BT4tgmBA>
mexico
> Zacatecas
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
+hotel&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cr
>
iminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fiest
>
a+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=IlWErASU8JXH8YNhGBk9hQ>
hotel
> Fiesta
> <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=Agua">http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=Agua
>
scalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas
+mexico&w5=Zacateca
>
s+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana
+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=VhhnwMFlUbMHR432Rt
>
NUkw> americana aguascalientes
>
> _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
>
* Visit your group "ranchos <
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos>
"
> on the web.
>
>
>
* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
to:
> ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
<mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use
of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
.
>
>
> _____
>
- Log in to post comments
On Nov 17, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:
Margarita:
Is your father still living? If he did the test, you would be able
to trace both his maternal (mtDNA) and paternal (yDNA) lineages. If
your cousin Humberto did it, he would not have your father's yDNA but
would have his mtDNA, whereas if your cousin Bobby did it, he would
have your father's yDNA but not your father's mtDNA. However, his
father (your uncle) would have the same yDNA and mtDNA as your
father. I guess you could have to have both of them do the test...
Humberto can do the mtDNA and Bobby can do the yDNA.
If you join Gary Felix's project you can get a 12-marker yDNA for $99
and a low-resolution mtDNA for $129. You get a discount on the yDNA
through Gary's project but not for the mtDNA (because his is a yDNA-
based project only)...
Maybe we need to start up a Mexico mtDNA project!
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@k...>
wrote:
>
> Well, as I've said before, I can't do this test at all because me
mum
> wasn't Hispanic. If I have one of my male cousins do this, would I
get
> some usable answers if his mother is my aunt or his father my
uncle?
> In other words, if my cousin Humberto did it, his mother is my
father's
> sister or if my cousin Bobby did it, his dad was my dad's brother,
> which would be the better candidate? Marge V:)
>
> On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Edward Serros wrote:
>
> > Josie,
> >
> > I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us are related
since
> > we are studying our
> > ancestors that came from the same area. Today I checked my
mtDNA
> > results which I
> > haven't done for awhile and you are an exact match at a low
> > resolution level to my
> > paternal grandmother, Maria Felguerez (via Cecilia Isordia). I
did
> > not realize who you
> > were.
> >
> > Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you did not do the
HVR2
> > and you have
> > extra money lying around, I would be interested to see if we
are
> > related at an even closer
> > (high resolution) level.
> >
> > Welcome to the tribe. Now I have to look up all the material you
have
> > in the Ranchos
> > database. My grandmother's data is below.
> >
> > Even though I said that we shouldn't be surprised, I am. Amazing.
> >
> > Abrazos,
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > HVR1 Haplogroup A
> > HVR1 differences
> > from CRS
> > 16223T
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 16290T
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 16319A
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 16362C
> >
> > HVR2 differences
> > from CRS
> > 64T
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 73G
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 146C
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 153G
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 182T
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 235G
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 263G
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 315.1C
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 522-
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > 523-
> >
> >
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
<Josiett3@s...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Arturo......it seems that I match four of your six
mutations. Does
> > this
> > > mean we are related 'way 'way back?  Linda.....I also match
four
> > of yours.
> > > Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am pretty sure we
share
> > a few
> > > also. I haven't had a chance to do much more on this but
hopefully
> > I will
> > > after the holidays.   Thanks!   Josie in San Antonio
> > >Â
> > >Â
> > >
> > >
> > > HVR1 Haplogroup
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > >
> > > HVR1 differences
> > >
> > > from
> > >
> > <http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?
> > kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9
> > > 2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%
85%
> > A4%9E%C9%A
> > > 7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%
7C%
> > 83%B9%AD%C
> > > F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS
> > >
> > > 16223T
> > >
> > >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 16290T
> > >
> > >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 16319A
> > >
> > >Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > > 16362C
> > >
> > >Â
> > >
> > >Â Â
> > >
> > >
> > >Â Â _____Â
> > >
> > > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Arturo Ramos
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:06 PM
> > > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > >
> > >
> > > Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
> > >
> > > I too am a haplogroup A with the following mutations:
> > >
> > > 16111T
> > > 16223T
> > > 16290T
> > > 16319A
> > > 16362C
> > > 16390A
> > >
> > > I have traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa Magallanes
born
> > > circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most likely
Tepecano
> > > (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that time the Spanish
were
> > > really pushing up the production of the mine in Bolanos and
brought
> > > in a lot of other labor to the area.
> > >
> > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"
> > <raices_regias@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Josie & Linda,
> > > >
> > > > We share the same haplogroup A. Although we're not an
exact match
> > > we
> > > > do match on some numbers. Since we're dealing here with
> > > mitochondrial
> > > > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that our
female
> > > common
> > > > ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in prehistorical
times.
> > > >
> > > > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine what is
called "Deep
> > > > Ancestry" of our maternal lineage. We definitely share the
same
> > > > Native American roots in the distant past.
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Victor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"
<Josiett3@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 8Â Â Â Â Â Â Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:34 -
000Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
> > From:
> > > > "Erlinda
> > > > > Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@y...>
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > > > >
> > > > > Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group
A
> > 16111T
> > > > 16223T
> > > > > 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A
> > > > >
> > > > > Josie, what were your numbers if you don't mind sharing?
> > > > >
> > > > > Linda in Everett
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > =======================================================
> > ==========
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Linda.....Hi Victor!
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this what you are referring to (below)
> > > > >
> > > > > HVR1> CRS
> > > > > 16223T
> > > > > 16290T
> > > > > 16319A
> > > > > 16362C
> > > > >
> > > > > I just printed all this out last night and really did not
read
> > it
> > > > (properly)
> > > > > due to a lack of time. I have been in Houston for a week
and
> > > unable
> > > > to do
> > > > > "my thing" with my genealogy/DNA projects. What do
these
> > numbers
> > > > mean?  If
> > > > > any match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we have
a
> > common
> > > > ancestor
> > > > > "somewhere"....? Please feel free to enlighten me as I
know
> > > absolutely
> > > > > nothing about "this new DNA stuff"......I guess that tells
my
> > > age!  :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Abrazos desde San Antonio,
> > > > >
> > > > > Josie
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SPONSORED LINKS
> > > Aguascalientes
> > >
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cri
> > > minal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
> > +hotel&w6=Fiesta
> > >
+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=3dGDyzZK1JYlft_kl5Y0RA>
> > > Criminal
> > >
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=
> > > Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
> > +hotel&w6=Fie
> > >
sta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=rIqx_vlal4c5USviDDmPCQ>
> > offenses
> > > Zacatecas
> > >
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Criminal
> > >
> >
+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiest
a
> > +amer
> > > icana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=0I9QabaLqZysHNkjQQ8kLA>Â
> > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > Zacatecas
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
> > +mexico&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=C
> > > riminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
> > +hotel&w6=Fies
> > >
ta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=cOINbNYO1WJJy2BT4tgmBA>
> > mexico
> > > Zacatecas
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
> > +hotel&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cr
> > > iminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
> > +hotel&w6=Fiest
> > >
a+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=IlWErASU8JXH8YNhGBk9hQ>
> > hotel
> > > Fiesta
> > >
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=Agua
> > > scalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas
> > +mexico&w5=Zacateca
> > > s+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana
> > +aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=VhhnwMFlUbMHR432Rt
> > > NUkw> americana aguascalientes     Â
> > >
> > >Â Â _____Â
> > >
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > >
> > >
> > > Â Â Â Â Â
> > > *Â Â Â Â Â Visit your group "ranchos
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos> "
> > > on the web.
> > >Â Â
> > >
> > > *Â Â Â Â Â To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >Â ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
subject=Unsubscribe>
> > >Â Â
> > >
> > > *Â Â Â Â Â Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
Terms of
> > Service
> > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
> > >
> > >
> > >Â Â _____
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> > â–ª Â Visit your group "ranchos" on the web.
> > Â
> > â–ª Â To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Â ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > Â
> > â–ª Â Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
>
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
▪ Visit your group "ranchos" on the web.
▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
- Log in to post comments
According to a series on the Discovery Channel on early man that I saw a couple of months ago, we all came from the same grandparents over 200,000 generations ago. But seriously, I believe many of us are related since most of us came from a mixture of common ancestors that settled in the central plains of Mexico. Alberto Duarte Prieto Santa Maria, California --- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote: > BTW, how much does this cost? I'll pay for my > primo, whichever one > decides to do it. Marge V.:) > > On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Edward Serros wrote: > > > Josie, > > > > I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us > are related since > > we are studying our > > ancestors that came from the same area. Today I > checked my mtDNA > > results which I > > haven't done for awhile and you are an exact > match at a low > > resolution level to my > > paternal grandmother, Maria Felguerez (via > Cecilia Isordia). I did > > not realize who you > > were. > > > > Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you > did not do the HVR2 > > and you have > > extra money lying around, I would be interested > to see if we are > > related at an even closer > > (high resolution) level. > > > > Welcome to the tribe. Now I have to look up all > the material you have > > in the Ranchos > > database. My grandmother's data is below. > > > > Even though I said that we shouldn't be > surprised, I am. Amazing. > > > > Abrazos, > > > > Ed > > > > HVR1 Haplogroup A > > HVR1 differences > > from CRS > > 16223T > >      > > 16290T > >      > > 16319A > >      > > 16362C > > > > HVR2 differences > > from CRS > > 64T > >      > > 73G > >      > > 146C > >      > > 153G > >      > > 182T > >      > > 235G > >      > > 263G > >      > > 315.1C > >      > > 522- > >      > > 523- > > > > > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. > Trevino" <Josiett3@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Arturo......it seems that I match four of your > six mutations. Does > > this > > > mean we are related 'way 'way back?  > Linda.....I also match four > > of yours. > > > Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am > pretty sure we share > > a few > > > also. I haven't had a chance to do much more > on this but hopefully > > I will > > > after the holidays.   Thanks!   Josie > in San Antonio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HVR1 Haplogroup > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > HVR1 differences > > > > > > from > > > > > <http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp? > > kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9 > > > > 2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%85% > > A4%9E%C9%A > > > > 7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%7C% > > 83%B9%AD%C > > > F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS > > > > > > 16223T > > > > > >      > > > 16290T > > > > > >      > > > 16319A > > > > > >      > > > 16362C > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > >  _____ > > > > > > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of > > > Arturo Ramos > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:06 PM > > > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor > > > > > > > > > Victor, Josie, Linda, et al. > > > > > > I too am a haplogroup A with the following > mutations: > > > > > > 16111T > > > 16223T > > > 16290T > > > 16319A > > > 16362C > > > 16390A > > > > > > I have traced my strictly maternal line to a > Josefa Magallanes born > > > circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... > most likely Tepecano > > > (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that > time the Spanish were > > > really pushing up the production of the mine in > Bolanos and brought > > > in a lot of other labor to the area. > > > > > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, > "v.h.villarreal" > > <raices_regias@y...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Josie & Linda, > > > > > > > > We share the same haplogroup A. Although > we're not an exact match > > > we > > > > do match on some numbers. Since we're > dealing here with > > > mitochondrial > > > > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it > means that our female > > > common > > > > ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in > prehistorical times. > > > > > > > > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine > what is called "Deep > > > > Ancestry" of our maternal lineage. We > definitely share the same > > > > Native American roots in the distant past. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. > Trevino" <Josiett3@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Message: 8      Date: Wed, 19 Oct > 2005 === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
- Log in to post comments
On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Edward Serros wrote:
Josie,
I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us are related since we are studying our
ancestors that came from the same area. Today I checked my mtDNA results which I
haven't done for awhile and you are an exact match at a low resolution level to my
paternal grandmother, Maria Felguerez (via Cecilia Isordia). I did not realize who you
were.
Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you did not do the HVR2 and you have
extra money lying around, I would be interested to see if we are related at an even closer
(high resolution) level.
Welcome to the tribe. Now I have to look up all the material you have in the Ranchos
database. My grandmother's data is below.
Even though I said that we shouldn't be surprised, I am. Amazing.
Abrazos,
Ed
HVR1 Haplogroup A
HVR1 differences
from CRS
16223T
16290T
16319A
16362C
HVR2 differences
from CRS
64T
73G
146C
153G
182T
235G
263G
315.1C
522-
523-
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" <Josiett3@s...> wrote:
>
> Arturo......it seems that I match four of your six mutations. Does this
> mean we are related 'way 'way back? Linda.....I also match four of yours.
> Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am pretty sure we share a few
> also. I haven't had a chance to do much more on this but hopefully I will
> after the holidays. Thanks! Josie in San Antonio
>
>
>
>
> HVR1 Haplogroup
>
> A
>
>
> HVR1 differences
>
> from
> <http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp?kit=42332&code=P7670&cryp…
> 2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%85%
A4%9E%C9%A
> 7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%7C%
83%B9%AD%C
> F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS
>
> 16223T
>
>
> 16290T
>
>
> 16319A
>
>
> 16362C
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Arturo Ramos
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:06 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
>
>
> Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
>
> I too am a haplogroup A with the following mutations:
>
> 16111T
> 16223T
> 16290T
> 16319A
> 16362C
> 16390A
>
> I have traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa Magallanes born
> circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most likely Tepecano
> (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that time the Spanish were
> really pushing up the production of the mine in Bolanos and brought
> in a lot of other labor to the area.
>
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Josie & Linda,
> >
> > We share the same haplogroup A. Although we're not an exact match
> we
> > do match on some numbers. Since we're dealing here with
> mitochondrial
> > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that our female
> common
> > ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in prehistorical times.
> >
> > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine what is called "Deep
> > Ancestry" of our maternal lineage. We definitely share the same
> > Native American roots in the distant past.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" <Josiett3@s...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:34 -000 From:
> > "Erlinda
> > > Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@y...>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > >
> > > Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group A 16111T
> > 16223T
> > > 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A
> > >
> > > Josie, what were your numbers if you don't mind sharing?
> > >
> > > Linda in Everett
> > >
> > >
=======================================================
==========
> > >
> > > Hi Linda.....Hi Victor!
> > >
> > > Is this what you are referring to (below)
> > >
> > > HVR1> CRS
> > > 16223T
> > > 16290T
> > > 16319A
> > > 16362C
> > >
> > > I just printed all this out last night and really did not read it
> > (properly)
> > > due to a lack of time. I have been in Houston for a week and
> unable
> > to do
> > > "my thing" with my genealogy/DNA projects. What do these numbers
> > mean? If
> > > any match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we have a common
> > ancestor
> > > "somewhere"....? Please feel free to enlighten me as I know
> absolutely
> > > nothing about "this new DNA stuff"......I guess that tells my
> age! :-)
> > >
> > > Abrazos desde San Antonio,
> > >
> > > Josie
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Aguascalientes
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aguascalientes&w1=Aguascalientes&w2…
> minal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fiesta
> +americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=3dGDyzZK1JYlft_kl5Y0RA>
> Criminal
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Criminal+offenses&w1=Aguascalientes…
> Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fie
> sta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=rIqx_vlal4c5USviDDmPCQ> offenses
> Zacatecas
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Crim…
> +offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas+hotel&w6=Fiesta
+amer
> icana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=0I9QabaLqZysHNkjQQ8kLA>
> Zacatecas
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
+mexico&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=C
> riminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fies
> ta+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=cOINbNYO1WJJy2BT4tgmBA> mexico
> Zacatecas
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Zacatecas
+hotel&w1=Aguascalientes&w2=Cr
> iminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas+mexico&w5=Zacatecas
+hotel&w6=Fiest
> a+americana+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=IlWErASU8JXH8YNhGBk9hQ> hotel
> Fiesta
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Fiesta+americana+aguascalientes&w1=…
> scalientes&w2=Criminal+offenses&w3=Zacatecas&w4=Zacatecas
+mexico&w5=Zacateca
> s+hotel&w6=Fiesta+americana
+aguascalientes&c=6&s=138&.sig=VhhnwMFlUbMHR432Rt
> NUkw> americana aguascalientes
>
> _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
> * Visit your group "ranchos <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos> "
> on the web.
>
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
> _____
>
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
▪ Visit your group "ranchos" on the web.
▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
- Log in to post comments
Reply