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Published by vhvillarreal – Sun, 2005-10-09 14:54 | Permalink

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Emilie,

The word "partido" has a lot of definitions. The one that applies here
is the following:

12. m. Distrito o territorio de una jurisdicción o administración que
tiene por cabeza un pueblo principal. (From the "Real Academia
Española" http://buscon.rae.es/diccionario/drae.htm)

You have to consider that the entry from "Diccionario Geográfico,
Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos." is an old one
and does not necessarily reflect current word usage.  Not even the
political divisions of the states and municipalities are guaranteed to
be the same today.  But being an old book and having old records is
what makes this resource valuable.

For the current political division of Zacatecas check the official web
page: http://www.zacatecas.gob.mx/  (Click "Estado" at the top menu
bar and then "Municipios" at the left side links.)  Indeed Jerez is
now an autonomous "Municipio".

Regards.
Victor Villarreal



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
> Oh, thanks, Victor,
> 
> My ancestors must have been living in the Salitrillo that was in the
municipality of Tepetongo, partido de Jerez, since my father was born
in Jerez.  What is a partido?  I thought Jerez was a municipality, no?
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA  ----
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: v.h.villarreal<mailto:raices_regias@y...> 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> 
>   Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:50 PM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Re: El Salitrillo, Zacatecas
> 
> 
>   Hello Emilie,
> 
>   Have you read the description of Salitrillo in the "Diccionario
>   Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos."
> 
>  
http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm<http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm>
> 
>   Salitrillo. 5 ranchos del Estado de Zacatecas: Uno del partido de
>   Fresnillo, municipalidad de Valparaíso. - Dos del partido de Jerez,
>   municipalidad de Tepetongo. - Otro del partido de Nochixtlán,
>   municipalidad de Toyahua. - Otro del partido de Villanueva,
>   municipalidad de Jalpa.
> 
>   The coordinates that you found are completely in a different area of
>   Zacatecas, right in the border of Coahuila.
> 
>   Victor.
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > Hello, all,
>   > 
>   > I have recently discovered more generations on my father's side. 
>   They include the surnames Tinajero, Olague, Valdez, Feliz, Flores,
>   Suriano, Salasar, Munos, Lucio, Vasquez, Garcia, Quijas, Banegas,
>   Escobedo and possibly Mata.  Most of these were baptized or married in
>   Tepetongo, Zacatecas, but they lived in a community called El
>   Salitrillo in the early 1700's to the late 1800's.  Does anyone else
>   have any connection to these families from this location?  Both the
>   men and the women used various surnames, but my research has proved
>   that they are one and the same. For example, my great-grandmother
>   Rafaela used the surnames Tinajero, Flores, Felix, or Suriano.  Her
>   father Hilario (Ylario) used the surnames Tinajero or Felix.  Her
>   mother Teodocia Flores also would sometimes use the surnames Felix or
>   Suriano. This made finding their children a challenge, to put it
>   mildly.  I finally found my grandfather as Francisco Olague Felix,
>   when I expected to find him as Francisco Olague Tinajero.  Many of the
>   other branches did the same thing, and the same surnames run in my
>   father's paternal and maternal sides.  It seems no one ever moved and
>   everyone would marry into the same clans over and over again.  Kind of
>   reminds me of the stories you hear of clans in the Appalachians.  
>   > 
>   > I have not been able to find El Salitrillo on any map, but I did
>   find a list of several places with the same name in the states of
>   Aguascalientes, Zacatecas, Nuevo Leon, and Tamaulipas.  The list gives
>   the Latitude and Longitude for each.  The El Salitrillo in Zacatecas
>   is at Latitude 24.5333333 and Longitude -101.1166667.  Does anyone
>   know of a map showing this El Salitrillo?
>   > 
>   > Thanks,
>   > 
>   > Emilie Garcia
>   > Port Orchard, WA  ---
>   >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Published by vhvillarreal – Sat, 2005-10-08 22:50 | Permalink

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Hello Emilie,

Have you read the description of Salitrillo in the "Diccionario
Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos."

http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm

Salitrillo. 5 ranchos del Estado de Zacatecas: Uno del partido de
Fresnillo, municipalidad de Valparaíso. - Dos del partido de Jerez,
municipalidad de Tepetongo. - Otro del partido de Nochixtlán,
municipalidad de Toyahua. - Otro del partido de Villanueva,
municipalidad de Jalpa.

The coordinates that you found are completely in a different area of
Zacatecas, right in the border of Coahuila.

Victor.



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
> Hello, all,
> 
> I have recently discovered more generations on my father's side. 
They include the surnames Tinajero, Olague, Valdez, Feliz, Flores,
Suriano, Salasar, Munos, Lucio, Vasquez, Garcia, Quijas, Banegas,
Escobedo and possibly Mata.  Most of these were baptized or married in
Tepetongo, Zacatecas, but they lived in a community called El
Salitrillo in the early 1700's to the late 1800's.  Does anyone else
have any connection to these families from this location?  Both the
men and the women used various surnames, but my research has proved
that they are one and the same. For example, my great-grandmother
Rafaela used the surnames Tinajero, Flores, Felix, or Suriano.  Her
father Hilario (Ylario) used the surnames Tinajero or Felix.  Her
mother Teodocia Flores also would sometimes use the surnames Felix or
Suriano. This made finding their children a challenge, to put it
mildly.  I finally found my grandfather as Francisco Olague Felix,
when I expected to find him as Francisco Olague Tinajero.  Many of the
other branches did the same thing, and the same surnames run in my
father's paternal and maternal sides.  It seems no one ever moved and
everyone would marry into the same clans over and over again.  Kind of
reminds me of the stories you hear of clans in the Appalachians.  
> 
> I have not been able to find El Salitrillo on any map, but I did
find a list of several places with the same name in the states of
Aguascalientes, Zacatecas, Nuevo Leon, and Tamaulipas.  The list gives
the Latitude and Longitude for each.  The El Salitrillo in Zacatecas
is at Latitude 24.5333333 and Longitude -101.1166667.  Does anyone
know of a map showing this El Salitrillo?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA  ---
>

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