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Just a word on DNA tests for females...of course they can be done.
Females have DNA just like males. But remember from your chapter on
Genetics in your Biology class, females have XX chromosomes and males
have XY chromosomes. Male haploid reproductive cells (sperm cells) are
either X or Y chromosome cells. Female haploid (or ova) are ALL
X-chromosome cells. When an X sperm cell fertilizes a X ovum, a baby
girl is conceived. When a Y sperm cell fertilizes an X ovum, a baby
boy is conceived. That is why males determine the sex of the newborn
child.


As Joseph, and anyone else who has investigated their genetic
genealogy, can attest to, paternal origin can only be checked via the
Y-DNA only. Consequently, only males can have their Y-DNA traced,
because only males have the Y-chromosome (which is where the Y-DNA is
located). Unfortunately, females are XX and have no Y-DNA, so females
have to ask a close male relative (father, brother, or paternal-cousin)
if they want their Y-DNA checked along their direct male line.


But there is good news. Both males and females have X-DNA, so the
mitochondrial DNA can be analyzed through both males and females.
Mitochondrial DNA (or M-DNA) rarely mutates and is passed from mother
to daughter, and directly along the female line. Males have M-DNA but
do not transmit the M-DNA to their sons or daughters. So if two
individuals, either male or female, have the same M-DNA, then they both
descend from the same ancestress.


I am no genetic scientist, so I only have a general understanding. I
hope that this little bit of information helps anyone else out there
with questions.


Sincerely,
Steven Hernandez

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Turner <cdian@...>
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Huejucar!!! Part two

 I will talk to my dad again about this.  Don't they do
DNA tests yet on females?

--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

Thanks Prima,

I haven't heard from you lately. Just thinking about
you as I was
organizing some of our Muro Records. I'm trying to
get my mess into some
kind of a reasonable pile. Thanks again. I'm trying
to find a Muro from
my line of Muro's to consider DNA testing. Any
Muro's on your side that
might be good candidates?

joseph

ps:  Not sure of the time frame but there are films
for that area of
Huejucar back to 1765:

Title
Registros parroquiales, 1765-1973

Authors
Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Huejúcar,
Jalisco) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la
parroquia.
Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations,
marriages and marriage
petitions, and deaths from Huejúcar, Jalisco,
Mexico.

Subjects
Mexico, Jalisco, Huejúcar - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad
Geneal?gica de Utah,
1962, 1978

Physical
102 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm. : 16 mm.



Carol Turner wrote:

>Jospeh that is wonderful news.  The only family
>connection from that area would be my
>great-grandmother Francisca Carrillo who was from
that
>area; she married Casmiro Muro.   However I found
her
>baptism and marriage record in Santa Maria and
>Colotlan.  Francisca was born in the early 1840's;
>it's possible Huejucar didn't have a church until
>after that time-frame?  I wish you good-luck, at
this
>time I don't have any films from Huejucar.
>
>Carol Turner
>
>--- Santos Luna <mistyriver123@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I share your joy.....now go... and take on those
>>films!!!
>>Cheers/Helyn
>>
>>Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
>>
>>I'm soooooo excited. I just got off the phone with
>>my 2nd cousin Roy Raygoza from Antioch, CA. Seems
>>that his grandfather, Nicolas was brother to my
>>Grandmother, Antonia Lopez. The big big big news
is
>>that his parents are from Huejucar, Jalisco the
same
>>place he says that my grandmother is from. That
>>being said I'm off to the races again inserarch of
>>this line of elusive relatives on my maternal
>>Grandmother's side. . .her name is Antonia Lopez.
>>
>>I just ordered two films from Huejucar. . .are
there
>>any Lopez in the group from Huejucar by chance?
>>
>>joseph
>>
>>ps: previous to this discovery I had doubts as to
>>the true name of my maternal Grandmother as she
went
>>by several aliases. But I've heard it from 3
>>separate independant sources and thats good enough
>>for me. If I can find a Lopez family in Huejucar
>>that had two children named Nicolas and Antoniia I
>>think I'll be on the right trail. I can't believe
I
>>found this info.
>>
>>I'm ordering these films:
>>
>>Bautismos 1879-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1158201 ]
>>Bautismos 1891-1904 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 1158202 ]
>>
>>
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I will talk to my dad again about this.  Don't they do
DNA tests yet on females?

--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

> Thanks Prima,
> 
> I haven't heard from you lately. Just thinking about
> you as I was 
> organizing some of our Muro Records. I'm trying to
> get my mess into some 
> kind of a reasonable pile. Thanks again. I'm trying
> to find a Muro from 
> my line of Muro's to consider DNA testing. Any
> Muro's on your side that 
> might be good candidates?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps:  Not sure of the time frame but there are films
> for that area of 
> Huejucar back to 1765:
> 
> Title
> Registros parroquiales, 1765-1973
> 
> Authors
> Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Huejúcar,
> Jalisco) (Main Author)
> 
> Notes
> Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la
> parroquia.
> Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.
> Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations,
> marriages and marriage 
> petitions, and deaths from Huejúcar, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> 
> Subjects
> Mexico, Jalisco, Huejúcar - Church records
> 
> Format
> Manuscript (On Film)
> 
> Language
> Spanish
> 
> Publication
> Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad
> Geneal?gica de Utah, 
> 1962, 1978
> 
> Physical
> 102 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm. : 16 mm.
> 
> 
> 
> Carol Turner wrote:
> 
> >Jospeh that is wonderful news.  The only family
> >connection from that area would be my
> >great-grandmother Francisca Carrillo who was from
> that
> >area; she married Casmiro Muro.   However I found
> her
> >baptism and marriage record in Santa Maria and
> >Colotlan.  Francisca was born in the early 1840's;
> >it's possible Huejucar didn't have a church until
> >after that time-frame?  I wish you good-luck, at
> this
> >time I don't have any films from Huejucar.  
> >
> >Carol Turner
> >
> >--- Santos Luna <mistyriver123@...> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I share your joy.....now go... and take on those
> >>films!!!
> >>Cheers/Helyn
> >>
> >>Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>I'm soooooo excited. I just got off the phone with
> >>my 2nd cousin Roy Raygoza from Antioch, CA. Seems
> >>that his grandfather, Nicolas was brother to my
> >>Grandmother, Antonia Lopez. The big big big news
> is
> >>that his parents are from Huejucar, Jalisco the
> same
> >>place he says that my grandmother is from. That
> >>being said I'm off to the races again inserarch of
> >>this line of elusive relatives on my maternal
> >>Grandmother's side. . .her name is Antonia Lopez.
> >>
> >>I just ordered two films from Huejucar. . .are
> there
> >>any Lopez in the group from Huejucar by chance?
> >>
> >>joseph
> >>
> >>ps: previous to this discovery I had doubts as to
> >>the true name of my maternal Grandmother as she
> went
> >>by several aliases. But I've heard it from 3
> >>separate independant sources and thats good enough
> >>for me. If I can find a Lopez family in Huejucar
> >>that had two children named Nicolas and Antoniia I
> >>think I'll be on the right trail. I can't believe
> I
> >>found this info. 
> >>
> >>I'm ordering these films:
> >>
> >>Bautismos 1879-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1158201 ]
> >>Bautismos 1891-1904 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 1158202 ]
> >>
> >>
> >>SPONSORED LINKS 
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Thanks Prima,



I haven't heard from you lately. Just thinking about you as I was
organizing some of our Muro Records. I'm trying to get my mess into
some kind of a reasonable pile. Thanks again. I'm trying to find a Muro
from my line of Muro's to consider DNA testing. Any Muro's on your side
that might be good candidates?



joseph



ps:  Not sure of the time frame but there are films for that area of
Huejucar back to 1765:


Title

Registros parroquiales, 1765-1973

Authors

Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Huejúcar, Jalisco) (Main
Author)

Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia.

Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.

Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages and marriage
petitions, and deaths from Huejúcar, Jalisco, Mexico.

Subjects

Mexico, Jalisco, Huejúcar - Church records

Format

Manuscript (On Film)

Language

Spanish

Publication

Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Geneal�gica de
Utah, 1962, 1978

Physical

102 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm. : 16 mm.





Carol Turner wrote:


cite="">
Jospeh that is wonderful news.  The only family
connection from that area would be my
great-grandmother Francisca Carrillo who was from that
area; she married Casmiro Muro.   However I found her
baptism and marriage record in Santa Maria and
Colotlan.  Francisca was born in the early 1840's;
it's possible Huejucar didn't have a church until
after that time-frame?  I wish you good-luck, at this
time I don't have any films from Huejucar.  

Carol Turner

--- Santos Luna <mistyriver123@...> wrote:

  
I share your joy.....now go... and take on those
films!!!
Cheers/Helyn

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

I'm soooooo excited. I just got off the phone with
my 2nd cousin Roy Raygoza from Antioch, CA. Seems
that his grandfather, Nicolas was brother to my
Grandmother, Antonia Lopez. The big big big news is
that his parents are from Huejucar, Jalisco the same
place he says that my grandmother is from. That
being said I'm off to the races again inserarch of
this line of elusive relatives on my maternal
Grandmother's side. . .her name is Antonia Lopez.

I just ordered two films from Huejucar. . .are there
any Lopez in the group from Huejucar by chance?

joseph

ps: previous to this discovery I had doubts as to
the true name of my maternal Grandmother as she went
by several aliases. But I've heard it from 3
separate independant sources and thats good enough
for me. If I can find a Lopez family in Huejucar
that had two children named Nicolas and Antoniia I
think I'll be on the right trail. I can't believe I
found this info. 

I'm ordering these films:

Bautismos 1879-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1158201 ]
Bautismos 1891-1904 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 1158202 ]


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Jospeh that is wonderful news.  The only family
connection from that area would be my
great-grandmother Francisca Carrillo who was from that
area; she married Casmiro Muro.   However I found her
baptism and marriage record in Santa Maria and
Colotlan.  Francisca was born in the early 1840's;
it's possible Huejucar didn't have a church until
after that time-frame?  I wish you good-luck, at this
time I don't have any films from Huejucar.  

Carol Turner

--- Santos Luna <mistyriver123@...> wrote:

> I share your joy.....now go... and take on those
> films!!!
> Cheers/Helyn
> 
> Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
> 
> I'm soooooo excited. I just got off the phone with
> my 2nd cousin Roy Raygoza from Antioch, CA. Seems
> that his grandfather, Nicolas was brother to my
> Grandmother, Antonia Lopez. The big big big news is
> that his parents are from Huejucar, Jalisco the same
> place he says that my grandmother is from. That
> being said I'm off to the races again inserarch of
> this line of elusive relatives on my maternal
> Grandmother's side. . .her name is Antonia Lopez.
> 
> I just ordered two films from Huejucar. . .are there
> any Lopez in the group from Huejucar by chance?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: previous to this discovery I had doubts as to
> the true name of my maternal Grandmother as she went
> by several aliases. But I've heard it from 3
> separate independant sources and thats good enough
> for me. If I can find a Lopez family in Huejucar
> that had two children named Nicolas and Antoniia I
> think I'll be on the right trail. I can't believe I
> found this info. 
> 
> I'm ordering these films:
> 
> Bautismos 1879-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1158201 ]
> Bautismos 1891-1904 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 1158202 ]
> 
> 
> SPONSORED LINKS 
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