Mary:

 

You are correct.  You didn't find it in the dictionary because of the spelling,  the word is:  "Hocico" and it means snout.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA.

 

1gnzlz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Allen

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:45 AM

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

I'm surprised I could not find the word "osico" in my dictionary.  But as I recall, it is not really bad in itself.  Correct me if I am wrong, but it means "snout" or the mouth of an animal.  What makes it "bad" is who says it, to whom, why and how.   When the mother said it, it just surprised the students because
they didn't expect it of her.  It's not something a nice person would say to others.    As a teacher, I have heard it on the playground and they were fighting words.   

 

Mary

 

I don't know spanish :o(

face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>so what did she really say?  If it's too bad use the @%#%$%^#@^  symbols, please.

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Margarita Vallazza
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

When my dad was teaching my mother Spanish, he was teaching her bad words. She was taking citizenship class and the teacher asked my mother to take care of the class while she stepped out. As soon as the teacher left, the class was buzzing. My mother, very authoritatively, told the class to "Callense el osico," thinking she was telling them to be quiet. She said you could hear a pin drop, and someone told her what
she had really said. Marge:)

On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

John Gonzalez wrote:

If you would like to see some of the beautiful eyes in Jalisco, where
people are complimented for having "Ojos Tapatios", go to gdlclub.com
go the section titled : Editoriales, Especiales and and move your
pointer down to "Ojos Tapatios," click there and you will see beautiful
"Ojos Tapatios".

Cool. I looked and saw that some of the men were shown (truthfully the women were my choice for the most beautiful). . .so do men have Ojos Tapatios tambien?

well I'm not so sure I have them but I am pretty sure I have Dientes Cazacanes/Tepecanos/Tepehuanes: http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~grobbins/huh.html

Colotlán (Northern Jalisco). Colotlán can be
found in Jalisco's northerly "Three-Fingers" boundary area with Zacatecas. This heavily wooded section of the Sierra Madre Occidental remained beyond Spanish control until after the end of the Chichimeca War. It is believed that Indians of Cazcan and Tepecanos origin lived in this area. However, this zone became "a refuge for numerous groups fleeing from the Spaniards." Tepehuanes Indians - close relatives to the Tepecanos - are believed to have migrated here following their rebellion in Durango in 1617-1618.---taken from John Schmal's Jalisco Indigenous in 16th Century article

Also there is something peculiar or different about the way people from Jalisco speak Spanish. This author seemed to think it was worth writing a dissertation about the subject:

TI: EL ESPANOL DE JALISCO: CONTRIBUCION A LA GEOGRAFIA LINGUISTICA HISPANOAMERICANA
AU: 0000,0000,EEEE>CARDENAS-DANIEL-NEGRETE
DN: PHD
DD: 1953
SN: COLUMBIA-UNIVERSITY (0054)
PG: 387
LA: ENGLISH
SU: Language-and-Literature-Linguistics (0588)
SO: VOLUME 14-01 OF DISSERTATION ABSTRACTS INTERNATIONAL. PAGE 137.
NO: AAI0006588

And finally i can remember people frequently referring to me as a "Cabezon." Well most times it was my Mom. So there must be something special about my head from Jalisco that is different too! She even mentioned my "Osicote" a few times while saying a few things about being a "Tarugo" and that she was tired of my "pendejadas". . .I remember one time she must have been confused thinking I was Chinese because she called me a "hijo del V-chi."

How about folks from Zacatecas or Aguascalientes. . .do you all have special or unusual Eyes, Teeth, Tongues or Heads?

Anyone ever call you an Orejon or Narizon or Flaco or Peludo or Barbado or
???

joseph





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size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Margarita
Vallazza
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes,
Lengua, Cabeza

When my dad was teaching my mother Spanish,
he was teaching her bad words. She was taking citizenship class and the
teacher asked my mother to take care of the class while she stepped out. As
soon as the teacher left, the class was buzzing. My mother, very
authoritatively, told the class to "Callense el osico," thinking she was
telling them to be quiet. She said you could hear a pin drop, and someone told
her what she had really said. Marge:)

On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:35 PM,
Joseph Puentes wrote:

John Gonzalez wrote:

If you would like to see some of the beautiful eyes in
Jalisco, where
people are complimented for having "Ojos Tapatios", go
to gdlclub.com
go the section titled : Editoriales, Especiales and and
move your
pointer down to "Ojos Tapatios," click there and you will
see beautiful
"Ojos Tapatios".

Cool. I looked
and saw that some of the men were shown (truthfully the women were my choice
for the most beautiful). . .so do men have Ojos Tapatios
tambien?

well I'm not so sure I have them but I am pretty sure I have
Dientes Cazacanes/Tepecanos/Tepehuanes:
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~grobbins/huh.html

Colotlán
(Northern Jalisco).
Colotlán can be found in Jalisco's northerly "Three-Fingers" boundary area
with Zacatecas. This heavily wooded section of the Sierra Madre Occidental
remained beyond Spanish control until after the end of the Chichimeca War.
It is believed that Indians of Cazcan and Tepecanos origin lived in this
area. However, this zone became "a refuge for numerous groups fleeing from
the Spaniards." Tepehuanes Indians - close relatives to the Tepecanos - are
believed to have migrated here following their rebellion in Durango in
1617-1618.---taken from John Schmal's Jalisco Indigenous in 16th Century
article

Also there is
something peculiar or different about the way people from Jalisco speak
Spanish. This author seemed to think it was worth writing a dissertation
about the subject:

TI: EL ESPANOL DE JALISCO:
CONTRIBUCION A LA GEOGRAFIA LINGUISTICA HISPANOAMERICANA
AU: CARDENAS-DANIEL-NEGRETE
DN:
PHD
DD: 1953
SN: COLUMBIA-UNIVERSITY (0054)
PG: 387
LA:
ENGLISH
SU: Language-and-Literature-Linguistics (0588)
SO: VOLUME 14-01 OF DISSERTATION
ABSTRACTS INTERNATIONAL. PAGE 137.
NO: AAI0006588

And finally i
can remember people frequently referring to me as a "Cabezon." Well most
times it was my Mom. So there must be something special about my head from
Jalisco that is different too! She even mentioned my "Osicote" a few times
while saying a few things about being a "Tarugo" and that she was tired of
my "pendejadas". . .I remember one time she must have been confused thinking
I was Chinese because she called me a "hijo del V-chi."

How about
folks from Zacatecas or Aguascalientes. . .do you all have special or
unusual Eyes, Teeth, Tongues or Heads?

Anyone ever call you an Orejon
or Narizon or Flaco or Peludo or Barbado or
???

joseph





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When my dad was teaching my mother Spanish, he was teaching her bad words. She was taking citizenship class and the teacher asked my mother to take care of the class while she stepped out. As soon as the teacher left, the class was buzzing. My mother, very authoritatively, told the class to "Callense el osico," thinking she was telling them to be quiet. She said you could hear a pin drop, and someone told her what she had really said. Marge:)





On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

John Gonzalez wrote:

If you would like to see some of the beautiful eyes in Jalisco, where

people are complimented for having "Ojos Tapatios", go to gdlclub.com

go the section titled : Editoriales, Especiales and and move your

pointer down to "Ojos Tapatios," click there and you will see beautiful

"Ojos Tapatios".

Cool. I looked and saw that some of the men were shown (truthfully the women were my choice for the most beautiful). . .so do men have Ojos Tapatios tambien?



well I'm not so sure I have them but I am pretty sure I have Dientes Cazacanes/Tepecanos/Tepehuanes: http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~grobbins/huh.html



Colotlán (Northern Jalisco). Colotlán can be found in Jalisco's northerly "Three-Fingers" boundary area with Zacatecas. This heavily wooded section of the Sierra Madre Occidental remained beyond Spanish control until after the end of the Chichimeca War. It is believed that Indians of Cazcan and Tepecanos origin lived in this area. However, this zone became "a refuge for numerous groups fleeing from the Spaniards." Tepehuanes Indians - close relatives to the Tepecanos - are believed to have migrated here following their rebellion in Durango in 1617-1618.---taken from John Schmal's Jalisco Indigenous in 16th Century article



Also there is something peculiar or different about the way people from Jalisco speak Spanish. This author seemed to think it was worth writing a dissertation about the subject:



TI: EL ESPANOL DE JALISCO: CONTRIBUCION A LA GEOGRAFIA LINGUISTICA HISPANOAMERICANA

AU: CARDENAS-DANIEL-NEGRETE

DN: PHD

DD: 1953

SN: COLUMBIA-UNIVERSITY (0054)

PG: 387

LA: ENGLISH

SU: Language-and-Literature-Linguistics (0588)

SO: VOLUME 14-01 OF DISSERTATION ABSTRACTS INTERNATIONAL. PAGE 137.

NO: AAI0006588



And finally i can remember people frequently referring to me as a "Cabezon." Well most times it was my Mom. So there must be something special about my head from Jalisco that is different too! She even mentioned my "Osicote" a few times while saying a few things about being a "Tarugo" and that she was tired of my "pendejadas". . .I remember one time she must have been confused thinking I was Chinese because she called me a "hijo del V-chi."



How about folks from Zacatecas or Aguascalientes. . .do you all have special or unusual Eyes, Teeth, Tongues or Heads?



Anyone ever call you an Orejon or Narizon or Flaco or Peludo or Barbado or ???



joseph











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