Hello, Janet. I remember you from a message board in Genealogy.com . 
Unfortunately, we found out that there are no close matches in our 
family tree. Something interesting, I noticed, by looking at message 
boards, that there are a lot, and I mean A LOT, of Curiel's in the 
area of Atenguillo-Guachinango-Mascota. You know, with all the 
people researching Curiel ancestors from Atenguillo and close 
villages we can create a new group exclusive for this surname in 
this area.

That reminds me. Joseph, is it ok to invite another genealogist to 
this group? I am very sure that he is serious about his research. 
And yes, he is probably a distant Curiel primo.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Iglesias" <reynavaleria@h...> 
wrote:
> Hello Steve:
> 
> 1. My research is focused more on my father's side . . . Iglesias 
Family Tree from the state of Jalisco. The Iglesias family are 
originally from the little towns of Guachinango, Atenguillo, and 
Ameca. I noticed that you have Curiel as one of your surnames. My 
Iglesias family members married a lot of Curiel's . . . just 
interested to see if there is a connection.
> 
> 2. I'm located in Southern California . . . I'm not sure if you 
have any family members down here that are Tapia but I sure do know 
some. . . I want to say that they are from Jalisco . . . They are 
very tall and light skinned.
> 
> 3. I also know an Apodaca family.
> 
> Janet
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sgapodaca 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:47 PM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Greetings and Introduction
> 
> 
>   I was invited to this group by Joseph Puentes. I think it is a 
great 
>   idea to create a group not only focused in genealogy but in a 
>   specific area.
>   My name is Steve Apodaca. As you can see in the family tree that 
I 
>   recently uploaded, I am in my early 20's. Until last year I was 
a 
>   college student, but dropped out because of lack of cash. Now I 
am 
>   working and saving money so that I go back to school. During my 
free 
>   time, I do my genealogy research. I started my research a couple 
>   years ago, but because of school and work and other 'duties' I 
>   haven't researched as much as I wished. I have not found 
ancestors 
>   in Zacatecas and Aguascalientes, yet. All of my ancestors come 
from 
>   the state of Jalisco. These are the towns and surnames that I am 
>   researching.
> 
>   Amacueca: Aguilar
>   Atenguillo: Curiel, Pena, Diaz, Cazarez
>   Barranca del Espiritu Santo: Frias
>   El Crucero: Ramirez, Gamino, Ursua, Ornelas
>   Guadalajara: Tapia
>   San Marcos Evangelista: Cervantes
>   Santa Catarina: Apodaca, Bonal
>   Sayula: Apodaca, Ayala
>   Zacoalco: Apodaca, Martinez, Frias, Rodriguez
> 
>   By the way, Barranca del Espiritu Santo, El Crucero, San Marcos, 
>   Santa Catarina, and Zacoalco all belong to the municipio of 
Zacoalco 
>   de Torres, so this is my main area of research.
> 
>   The branch that I have researched the most is the Apodaca 
family. 
>   The earliest ancestor I have found is José Domingo Apodaca, born 
in 
>   Zacoalco, Jalisco (I am still looking for the date), and married 
in 
>   the same town on November 30, 1784 with Gertrudis Aniceta Bonal 
from 
>   Santa Catarina. Finding these ancestors was relatively easy 
because 
>   of three factors: First, the surname Apodaca is not that common 
in 
>   this area of Jalisco and the Apodacas that I have found are one 
way 
>   or another related to my family. Second, I found that this 
family 
>   has stayed in the same area for at least 220 years. My father, 
born 
>   in Santa Catarina, still lives in Zacoalco, and several of his 
>   brothers and sisters have their families in Santa Catarina.
> 
>   However, I have not been very successful with all of my family 
>   branches. For example, my maternal grandfather Andrés Tapia. He 
>   married my grandmother in 1947 and their marriage lasted about 5 
>   years because he died in a terrible truck accident in Escuinapa, 
>   Sinaloa. My family lost contact with his family and that's why 
it 
>   has been difficult for me to find more about him. From 
researching 
>   documents and interviewing my grandmother, I know that his real 
name 
>   was José Luis Tapia (his baptism name), that he was from 
>   Guadalajara, and that his parents were Andrés Tapia (I don't 
know 
>   nothing more about him) and Macaria Hernández (the only thing I 
know 
>   about her is that she was from `Santa Rosa', no idea which state 
or 
>   municipio). Even though my grandmother swears that my 
grandfather is 
>   from Guadalajara, his son (my uncle) insists that he was 
actually 
>   born in Los Altos, somewhere between Atotonilco and Arandas. Now 
>   what I need to do is to order the baptism microfilm for the 
church 
>   of Mexicaltzingo in Guadalajara around 1925 and that will 
probably 
>   give me more clues about my Tapia ancestors.
> 
>   Well, I hope this introduction was good enough. I hope that we 
can 
>   find a link, if not today, in the future. Also, the file that I 
>   submitted does not include all of the individuals in my file, 
but 
>   only my direct ancestors. I will add updates as soon as I make 
>   changes.
> 
> 
> 
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Hello, possible primo.

I will have this is the Cervantes family that I have on my file.
Marcelo Cervantes, married Maria Salazar before 1821. So far, I have 
verified four relatives. I have found others on the IGI, but I don't 
put them on my file until I see with my own eyes the actual 
microfilm or document where they are described. The children on my 
file are: Cruz Cervantes born aroun 1821 in Los Pozos and married 
with Maria Rita Apodaca, Maria Guadalupe Cervantes born around 1825 
in San Marcos and married with Nemecio Apodaca, Ysidro Cervantes, 
born around 1832 in San Marcos and married with Martina Gil, and 
Higinia Cervantes born around 1846 and never married according to 
her death certificate from 1916. As soon as I find some free time, I 
will order some microfilms to find the baptim documents of the 
Cervantes kids. I approximated their birth date from their marriage 
or death records. 

By the way, Angel, Zacoalco is actually a big municipio. There are 
about 25,000 zacoalquenses living there, without including the 
hundreds, maybe thousands who live in the U.S. I want to stay 
optimistic, but while checking baptism microfilms from Zacoalco, I 
found a lot of Cervantes children from other families. Hopefully, 
they all descend from the same ancestors. Keep on looking for your 
Cervantes ancestors as I'll do with mine and we will probably find a 
link soon, primo. Unfortunately, I haven't found Cejas in my family 
file, but that doesn't neccesarily mean that they are not out there.

By the way, where do you live at? I live in LA County.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Angel R. Cervantes" 
<angelrcervantes@y...> wrote:
> Primo,
> 
> My great great grandfather Jose Manuel Cervantes
> married Juana Maria Gonzales in 1835 in Zocoalco de
> Torres.  The marriage record shows the parents of Jose
> Manuel Cervantes as Rafael Cervantes and Marcelina
> Diaz.  I should have looked at the marriage closer and
> see what village they were from.  I also have a Seja
> line in Zacoalco de Torres.  Have you come across any
> Sejas in your genealogy?  By the way I am also in my
> 20's.  I am three years older then you.  I thought I
> was the youngest guy, I guess you beat me.  Well I
> will consider you a primo.  The municipio of Zacoalco
> de Torres can't be that big.  I bet we are related for
> sure.
> 
> Un Abrazo,
> Angel
> 
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