Message from elviraz elviraz@...
To Everyone who mentioned the unfilmed records in Zacatecas in our areas of
interest:
Now is the time for action. Please! Can anyone give me specifics? Book
numbers pages, loose pages, etc.
I sent an e-mail to Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia regarding what was
said. He is interested and would like specifics. When he asks he usually
does something about it. He is in a position to do. The email below is
what I had sent him. I guess no one contacted him from this group. Please
send me (or him if you prefer, mentioning this e-mail) of the documents or
books that need to be filmed, loose pages, where they are, who is in charge
at the locale, phone numbers or address if you have it, and contact person.
Please send me as much information as you have on hand about the unfilmed
documents or books.
I believe he was expecting me to send the information needed. I sent him
pat o the info as a heads up but not all the e-mails from the group
discussing the need to film some more documents.
Can you all do this ASAP? I would like to take advantage of this since
I believe Mr. Sanchez is in a position to help us and has expressed an
interest. He mentions the book found in Santiago, Nuevo Leon. I am assuming
that that his outfit is gettiing ready to microfil again. Let's take
advantage of that; who knows, we might find some more family!
The following is the e-mail I received from him today. Below it is my
original e-mail to him.
Elvira
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Message from Joseph Puentes makas@...
Elvira I don't personally know how to answer your question. Arturo
Ramos said before that in Colotlan, Jalisco there are Franciscan
records that are unavailble on microfilm and difficult to access in
person, but you were asking about Zacatecas. All that I"m saying below
might be very different than what you are talking about. If so please
shelf this diversion and we can talk about it after others reply with
those specific unfilmed records are discussed. I just can't remember
who started and where the location was.
On my wish list---below is a list of records available at different
archives but not available through the LDS on microfilm (at least
according to Dr. Lyman Platt):
Fresnillo Padron 1770 AAG
Fresnillo Padron 1772-1773 AGI Guadalajara 348
Sombrerete Padron 1777 AGI Indiferentes 1526
Tlaltenango:
and though the LDS Lib has this one Padrones 1754-1780
FHL INTL Film
1219415
According to Dr. Platt the 1772-1777 is available
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Message from Arturo Ramos arturo.ramos2@...
Though Colotlan is in the State of Jalisco for governmental purposes,
its parrish is part of the Diocese of Zacatecas and geographically it
is basically part of Zacatecas as there is no way in or out of the town
without going through Zacatecas.
As far as all of the other documents that you mention, those are all in
custody of the Spanish Ministry of Culture in Spain, thus Samuel
Sanchez's team that is presently in Zacatecas would not really be able
to film those very easily. Those should become available digitally any
time now via AER. If not, you can order copies of the documents or
films from them. I have done so already and they are very efficient,
if expensive.
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Message from Deena Ortiz drortiz@...
I am very interested in knowing more about the "unfilmed" records of
Sombrerete. You say the information should be available shortly via AER. I
am not familiar with this term.
~Deena Ortiz~
Message: 9
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:54:37 -0000
From: "Arturo Ramos"
As far as all of the other documents that you mention, those are all in
custody of the Spanish Ministry of Culture in Spain, thus Samuel
Sanchez's team that is presently in Zacatecas would not really be able
to film those very easily. Those should become available digitally any
time now via AER. If not, you can order copies of the documents or
films from them. I have done so already and they are very efficient,
if expensive.
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Message from Arturo Ramos arturo.ramos2@...
Sorry about that Deena. I hate it when people throw acronyms at me
and now you have caught me doing just that.
AER is Archivos Españoles en Red
Anyone can sign up for an account and they are in the process of
digitizing (scanning) all of their collection and for those documents
that have already been digitized, you can simply pull them up and
view them online through the AER website:
http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp
I think the Sombrerete Padron that Joseph mentions is the following.
If so it is not yet digitized, but you can probably order a hard copy.
Archivo Archivo General de Indias
Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16403.15.1564//INDIFERENTE,1526
Título Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias
Alcance y Contenido Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias.
Nivel de Descripción Fracción de Serie-Unidad de Instalación
Fecha(s) [f] 1777
Signatura(s) INDIFERENTE,1526
Volumen 1 Legajo(s)
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Message from Arturo Ramos arturo.ramos2@...
Here is the correspondence that I have been having with Mr. Sanchez
re: the unfilmed records in Jerez and Colotlan:
Arturo, Ojala que este senor Sanchez nos pueda ayudar con la
filmacion de los registros en Jerez y Colotlan. Voy a estar en Utah
en la biblioteca en Mayo, voy a volver a preguntar acerca del
progreso de nuestra peticion. Me parece que te comente que le escribi
al obispado solicitando permiso para ver los archivos en la
Inmaculada. Desgraciadamente no recibi contestacion. Voy a hablar por
telefono, haber que me dicen. "No hay peor lucha que la que no se
hace". Seguiremos en contacto susana ----- Original Message -----
From: Arturo Ramos To: 'B. Samuel Sanchez G.' Cc:
susyfarias@... Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: Recomendacion
Señor Sánchez:
Mi número es +1-202-460-4589 (móvil) o +1-202-429-1515 (oficina). No
sabe canto gusto me da recibir su mensaje, ya que acabo de ir a
México
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Message from Arturo Ramos arturo.ramos2@...
I just got off the phone with Mr. Sanchez and yes, they do have a
filiming team down in Zacatecas now and are simply trying to get the
exact information re: the location and condition of the records that
they might film.
Let us cross our fingers and see if we can make this a reality. It
would be a big boon to our efforts.
If anybody else knows of records other than Colotlan and Jerez in the
region of Zacatecas that are not filmed, please contact Mr. Sanchez and
give him the details ASAP.
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Sanchez-Castellanos
Alguien sabe cual es el estatus de los fims que iban a ser digitalizados de la feligresia de Jerez????
Unfilmed genealogical documents and genealogical books
Enviado por Nuestros Ranchos el Jue, 2006-02-23 01:48.
Message from Arturo Ramos arturo.ramos2@...
Here is the correspondence that I have been having with Mr. Sanchez
re: the unfilmed records in Jerez and Colotlan:
Arturo, Ojala que este senor Sanchez nos pueda ayudar con la
filmacion de los registros en Jerez y Colotlan. Voy a estar en Utah
en la biblioteca en Mayo, voy a volver a preguntar acerca del
progreso de nuestra peticion. Me parece que te comente que le escribi
al obispado solicitando permiso para ver los archivos en la
Inmaculada. Desgraciadamente no recibi contestacion. Voy a hablar por
telefono, haber que me dicen. "No hay peor lucha que la que no se
hace". Seguiremos en contacto susana ----- Original Message -----
From: Arturo Ramos To: 'B. Samuel Sanchez G.' Cc:
susyfarias@
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Colotlan, Fresnillo, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Tlaltenango: Unfilme