I was so encouraged by a posting that others may be visiting the research center in June that I made travel arrangements and reservations for June 17 thru 20. I am a novice to geneology and would like to be prepared for the visit. My brother is traveling from Los Angeles and I will be traveling from Houston. We would like to meet anyone in the group that will be in SLC on any of those dates for some tips and guidance in research of Delgadillo, Prieto and Medrano in Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. Suggestions for research preparation are most welcome. Raymond Medrano
I actually start searching the state of interest with all of the combinations of names that I can think of. As many of you know there are letters that are interchangeable like Z & S, V & B etc... I was looking for an Alvares on pilot. FAmilySearch.org and finally found the individual of interest spelled as Flvares so when you look in databases do not expect to find the names spelled correctly. As soon as I am finished with the state I search the whole country.
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Not only that but sometimes the first names are wrong. My grandfather was
registered as Cirilo Chavez and his name was Daniel Chavez. I did not
find him in the index but as I went through the entire year, record by record,
I found twp Cirilo Chavez and one of them the parents were my great
grandparents. It happened that same day so the judge just got confused or
whatever and wrote Cirilo again.
In a message dated 5/9/2009 9:46:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com writes:
I actually start searching the state of interest with all of the
combinations of names that I can think of. As many of you know there are letters
that are interchangeable like Z & S, V & B etc... I was looking for an Alvares
on pilot. FAmilySearch.org and finally found the individual of interest
spelled as Flvares so when you look in databases do not expect to find the
names spelled correctly. As soon as I am finished with the state I search the
whole country.
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I haven't been following this thread until just now but I wanted to
add that my father had an Aunt Sara, whom I never met but had heard of
all my childhood. I could never find any documentation on her but
when I did, in Texas Deaths 1890-1975 in the Family Search Pilot, my
great-grandmother's name was spelled Francius rather than Francisca
and my great-grandfather's name was spelled Senobio, whereas, I've
also seen in official documents as Zenobio and Cenobio. However, in
the official death certificate, my great-grandmother's name is spelled
correctly. Apparently, it's the transcriber who couldn't read it
properly. Marge:)
On May 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, MecheChavez@aol.com wrote:
Not only that but sometimes the first names are wrong. My
grandfather was
registered as Cirilo Chavez and his name was Daniel Chavez. I did not
find him in the index but as I went through the entire year, record by
record,
I found twp Cirilo Chavez and one of them the parents
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Here are a few more suggestions:
1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free and normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon. They only let you order five and sometimes six or seven per day. I have a friend who sometimes uses other peoples name to order extra films, (I am not condoning nor recommending this). As others have mentioned once the films are at the library they stay at the library indefinitely.
2. Check the Family History Library Catalog to verify what is there and what needs to be ordered. If the Film says FHL then it is already at the library. However if the film that you need says VAULT, then you need to order it so that it will be waiting for you.
3. Not all of the books are out on the floor so if you find a particular book that you want to read that is not in the regular stacks you can go to the "access services window" (library attendant window) and ask for the book they will then retrieve the item for you, the
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On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:
> Here are a few more suggestions:
>
> 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free
> and normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the
> afternoon. They only let you order five and sometimes six or seven
> per day. I have a friend who sometimes uses other peoples name to
> order extra films, (I am not condoning nor recommending this). As
> others have mentioned once the films are at the library they stay at
> the library indefinitely.
I have the telephone number that you can call to order the film before
you arrive. If you tell them you are coming to SLC for a short period
of time and are from out of town......especially if you are from out
of STATE.......they will allow you to order more than the usual five
film. I have done this in the past and have requested as many as 25
or so! If you like, I can furnish the telephone number next week
since I am still
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Josie,
This is great! I'll be looking for the telephone number. Have a safe trip back.
Thank you.
Raymond Medrano
--- On Fri, 5/8/09, Josie T. Trevino wrote:
From: Josie T. Trevino
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com
Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 8:18 AM
On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:
> Here are a few more suggestions:
>
> 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free and
normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon. They
only let you order five and sometimes six or seven per day. I have a friend who
sometimes uses other peoples name to order extra films, (I am not condoning nor
recommending this). As others have mentioned once the films are at the library
they stay at the library indefinitely.
I have the telephone number that you can call to order the film before you
arrive. If you tell them you are coming to SLC for a short period of
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Raymond,
The number for the B1 (International Floor) Attendants window, where you
order the microfilm is 801-240-2334. They'll help you out there.
Jonathan
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From: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
Date: 05/09/09 16:17
> Josie,
> This is great!� I'll be looking for the telephone number.� Have a safe
trip back.
> Thank you.
> Raymond Medrano
>
> --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Josie T. Trevino wrote:
>
> From: Josie T. Trevino
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com
> Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 8:18 AM
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Here are a few more suggestions:
> >
> > 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free
and
> normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon.
They
> only let you
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That is great to hear that there appears to be a Nuestros Ranchos impromptu reunion in the making. I must say my first trip to Salt Lake was such a great experience thanks to Mickey, Josie, Kitty, Rich and all of the other Ranchos members that I met there.
Some recommendations for your trip:
1. Have a research plan... it is very easy to spend entire days going from film to film and not focusing or achieving much in terms of gathering new information. I have done two types of trips... one where where I had very specific records I wanted to look up so I compiled a list of films, names, etc. and another where I had two films I wanted to read from beginning to end (and scan as much as possible).
2. Make sure that the Library has the films that you will need. Many films are still sitting in the Vault and have to be ordered to the library which can take up to a week. If you notify the Library of the dates that you will be there and what films you will need from the vault, they will
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Arturo
You can send a list of films needed before you go to SLC
Mickey
dated 5/7/2009 7:19:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
arturo.ramos2@gmail.com writes:
That is great to hear that there appears to be a Nuestros Ranchos
impromptu reunion in the making. I must say my first trip to Salt Lake was such a
great experience thanks to Mickey, Josie, Kitty, Rich and all of the other
Ranchos members that I met there.
Some recommendations for your trip:
1. Have a research plan... it is very easy to spend entire days going from
film to film and not focusing or achieving much in terms of gathering new
information. I have done two types of trips... one where where I had very
specific records I wanted to look up so I compiled a list of films, names,
etc. and another where I had two films I wanted to read from beginning to
end (and scan as much as possible).
2. Make sure that the Library has the films that you will need. Many
films are still sitting in the Vault
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Talk about enthusiasm, I'm really looking forward to visiting the research center. Thanks to Arturo, Alicia, and Eduardo, your guidance and many helpful suggestions are like tools in the hands of a master, or in this case, a novice.
I have a few film numbers that I will order in advance. The areas and dates of interest so far are:
1874-1877..El Senor Del Encino, Aguas (Crescencio Medrano)
1852...San Jose De Garcia, Rincon de Romos, Aguas (Antonia Guerrero Vasques)
1857..Julia Valdez Rosales, San Pable, Galeana, Nuevo Leon,
1876..Ygnacio Medrano, Sagrario Metropolitano, Oaxaca De Juarez, Oaxaca,
1857..Crecencio Medrano Carrillo, La Inmaculada Comcepcion, Matehuala, SLPotosi,
1852..Cresencio Medrano Urea, Zacoalco De Torres, Jalisco,
1852..Cresencio Medrano Delgadillo, Mexticacan, Jalisco,
about 1895 Gomez Palacio, Ignacio (Ygnacio) Medrano and Maria Delgadillo Prieto,marriage
This jumps around in locations, but trying to isolate possibilities. I had no idea there
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Hi Raymond, Just some helpful words, you dont need to order any Aguascalientes film, you can view all films the church has for Aguascalientes 1616-1964, all types of records, just go to www.familysearchlabs.org , same with all Chihuahua films for 1632-1965. Just thought you could use those $12 or so for other films! Sometimes, genealogy gets to the point with so much moving around, there has to be trial and error in checking places. -Daniel Camino
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Daniel,
The microfilm image is usually better than the online digital image, so they might want to make a digital copy while in SLC.
La imagen de la micropelícula usualmente es mejor que la imagen digital en línea, entonces quizás quieran hacer una copia digital mientras están en SLC (Lago Salado).
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Raymond,
You mentioned "trying to isolate possibilities". Hate to throw in one more thing, but I just wanted to share what happened to me recently. By sheer luck (wrong key stroke)I found several records of relatives in Bajio de San Jose which is part of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco. These were family members that through oral family history were "from Aguascalientes". I believe that I never found them before because I would filter out "Jalisco" for that side of the family. Sort of unrelated but maybe helpful, I also found records by NOT correcting misspelled names and letting the search go through.
Sherri Mora
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I have found many people doing exactly the same thing. My mistakes at first were from my lousy typing. I soon learned that my lousy typing was a gift from heaven. I have also found family members that were from aguascalientes registered in encarnacion de diaz.
Rick
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From: announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of kanakalele@aol.com
Sent: Sat 5/9/2009 5:07 PM
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC
Raymond,
You mentioned "trying to isolate possibilities". Hate to throw in one more thing, but I just wanted to share what happened to me recently. By sheer luck (wrong key stroke)I found several records of relatives in Bajio de San Jose which is part of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco. These were family members that through oral family history were "from Aguascalientes". I believe that I never found them before because I would filter out "Jalisco" for that side of the family. Sort of unrelated but maybe
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Raymond, what other information do you have on your ancestor, family members time frame etc....
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Mispelled names