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Hello,

I have been trying for a while to get more information on Bartolo de Aguirre (d. Sep. 2, 1724). He was married to Micaela [Orosco Mendosa Peres]. Many ancestry trees and FamilySearch trees have his birth in Spain in 1669, however I am not convinced.

A while back someone here on the forum suggested that he believed that this Aguirre line came from Guanajuato. I was wondering if that individual, I don't remember who, could kindly share his theory.

I have also found this marriage record of an Aguirre in Ayotlan in 1688.

https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?page=1&place=…

Bartolo's first child for whom I have found a baptismal record is Juana who was born in 1889. I am hoping to see if perhaps with the information from the above record, I can further research and establish some form familial relationship.

If possible would anyone be able to help decipher the entry? It is on the right page and has no heading. I cannot make out the groom's name nor his father's. His mother is Francisca Nunez. The bride I believe is Juana de Ovia, daughter of Joseph (?) and Angela de Ovia. Her family is from Guadalajara. Any other help would be appreciated as the handwriting is atrocious.

Thanks!

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Estimado Gabriel,

Gracias por compartir estos datos, particularmente el bautismo de Antonia! No lo había visto y me párese de suma interés que Gerónimo de Cervantes Villaseñor fue su padrino.

Comparto unos datos sobre Gerónimo en este thread:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/24750

Espero que pronto podríamos compartir más sobre estás familias.

Un saludo,

Richard

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Estimado Richard,

A mi también me pareció muy interesante la información que encontré de Antonia y te agradecería mucho si me compartes mas información de Geronimo Cervantes ó Jeronimo de Villaseñor Cervantes como lo mencionan en Retoños, para buscar si tiene alguna relación familiar con los Aguirre, Yo estoy tratando de encontrar su hay algun lazo de "Bartolome de Aguirre (d.1724) con alguna de las familias Aguirre de Jalostotitlan.

Yo solo tengo esta información de los Villaseñor:

Defuncion de Geronimo (d.9 feb 1721):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FM95-VV?cc=1874591&wc=3J4Y…

Bautismo de su hija Maria (ch.23 sep 1699):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XY9B-RZ?cc=1874591&wc=3J45…

Bautismo de su hijo Joseph Manuel (ch.21 jun 1701):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XY9B-2D?cc=1874591&wc=3J45…

Defuncion de su esposa Anna Muñoz

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Thanks for the info, I also found an Ayo's 1669 AGUIRRE's Christening record for :

Jn. Garcia Aguire
Event Date: 4 Jun 1669 San Agustin, Ayo el Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Bernabe Garcia Mother's Name: Madalena de Aguire

1st Record left image 225 of 308:

"México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F4LV-M?cc=1874591&wc=3JHC-… : 28 June 2014), Ayotlán > San Agustín > Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1717-1726 > image 225 of 308; parroquias Católicas (Catholic Church parishes), Jalisco.

Also in this film in image 278 (3rd record left page) is the record for another child: Madalena Garcia Aguirre
Event Date: 9 Jul 1679 Event Place (Original): San Agustin, Ayo el Chico, Jalisco, Father's Name: Bernabe Garcia Mother's Name: Madalena de Aguirre

Maybe an interesting info is that in this record they are classified as "Mestizos" and Bartolome Aguirre

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Here is the record of his second marriage to Magdalena Gaitán:

Index - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDL-Q65
Image - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FSSC-LB
...a P[edr]o Vasques español hijo legitimo de P[edr]o Vasques de de Aguirre y de fran[cis]ca de [?]
Viudo de Ju[an]a de la Dueña Con Madalena Gaitan hija leg[iti]ma de Joseph nuñes y de Maria Gaitan españoles Vesinos de esta j[urisdicci]on
...

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I recently found something I can share on the origins of Micaela de Orozco. Her grandson Joachin de Aguirre needed a dispensa to marry Gertrudis Dominga Magana. This is the tree they give:

Maria Sanchez - 1 - Nicolasa Sanchez
Ursula Venegas - 2 - Micaela Perez
Gertrudis Dominga Magana (pretensa) - 3 - Bartolome de Aguirre
[Blank] - 4 - Joachin de Aguirre (pretenso)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-DM9L-6H?i=562&cc=18833…

However there seems to be some inaccuracies here. Joachin was the son of Bartolome Aguirre and Josefa Camarena. Bartolome was the son of Bartolome de Aguirre and Michaela de Orozco Perez Mendoza.

Given the tree in the dispensa and the coincidence of surnames, Micaela would thus seem to be the child of Diego Perez and Nicolasa de Mendoza Orozco Rojas (& Sanchez). Diego and Nicolasa were the parents of a number of children living in Ayo el Chico, including:

1) Juan Perez cc Josefa de Rojas Robledo
2) Magdalena Perez Mendoza cc Juan de

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Richard,

Buscando confirmar el origen de la esposa de Bartolome de Aguirre (d. Sept 2,1724 Ayo El Chico) llamada Micaela y quien utilizó los apellidos Orosco Mendoza Perez Y SANCHEZ (como veremos mas abajo) encontré la siguiente información:

Antecedente.- Como es bien conocido en multiples registros se menciona a Micaela como ¨Micaela PEREZ" ejemplo:

Bautismo 15 May 1696 en Ayo el Chico de su hijo Bartolome el
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F4SL-KQ?cc=1874591&wc=3JH8…

Lo interesante que encontré:

1.- El bautismo de una de sus hijas llamada ANTONIA (el cual posiblemente no había sido localizado ya que en el libro de Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia No se incluye)

Bautismo día 13 de noviembre de 1699 en Jalostotitlan de ANTONIA:

"En el pueblo de Xalostotitlan en trece dias del mes de noviembre de mil seiscientos noventa y nueve baptise y puse los santos oleos a Antonia española hija legitima de Bartholome de Aguirre

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Hi!

The marriage record you shared is for Pedro Vázquez de Aguirre & Juana de Oria.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDL-34Z

“…se presento P[edr]o basques de aguirre hijo lejitimo de P[edr]o basques de aguirre i de Fran[cis]ca nuñes besinos de esta Jurisdision de aio, para contraer matrimonio con doña Ju[an]a de oria hija de Joseph de la dueña, i de angela de oria besinos de la ciudad de guadalajara…”

I have not seen anything yet that suggests a relationship between this couple and Bartolomé de Aguirre and his wife Micaela de Mendoza.

There is another marriage record for Pedro's sibling, but I think it may contain errors:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDP-SC1

I have also not seen any evidence yet that documents the origins of Bartolomé de Aguirre and his wife Micaela. It would be great if someone were to share that here.