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David,

Thanks for the explanation.  I had been wondering about the 
term "Estancia".  I've also seen "Estanzuela" and I would guess it 
derived from the word "Estancia"?  The other term I've come across 
is "Puesto".  I picture that to be even smaller than a Rancho, but I 
am not sure.  I really haven't looked into it.  Does anyone know?

Maria Cortez
Elk Grove, CA

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "David P. Delgado" <dpdelgado@j...> 
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> Joseph,
> 
> I think that the closest English equivalent of "rancho" is "town".  
The word town is as small and varied as the word "rancho".  A town 
can be anything from a single dwelling to a formally organized group 
of homes and families with formal organization.  I think it's 
important to keep in mind that some words in use today are holdovers 
from long ago.  For example, "villa" meant a community with at least 
25 white european families as permanent residents.  Permission had to 
petitioned from the Spanish Crown to be granted such status.  
A "pueblo" was a community in which biracial, white, and indigenous 
people lived.  A "ranchería" was a community of indigenous people 
only (usually "wild", i.e. unbaptized).  The other term I have seen 
while reading old documents is "estancia".  This last word refers to 
a bivouac area.  These terms and their meanings disappeared along 
with the Spanish after Mexico separated from Spain.  I think that the 
word "pueblo" has remained in the voaculary of many people but 
meaning that are different from place to place.  I think it's really 
difficult to find a simple equivalent because words change so much 
over time in English as well as in Spanish.
> 
> David Delgado in Albany, CA
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Alicia,

Right.  A "rancho" refers in México to a small plot of land dedicated 
either to agricultural farming or animal husbandry.  It can have one 
or more houses and it usually is the property of a single family.

An "hacienda" is like a ranch but on a much larger scale, it can have 
many houses and people, usually the owners and the workers that 
attend the fields and animals.

A "poblado" is a community or settlement of people larger than a 
rancho or hacienda, but smaller than a village.

The Mexican equivalent of a village is a "villa" or a "pueblo". This 
is the intermediate entity between a poblado and a "ciudad" or city.

Victor
 
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Victor,
>  
> You are correct in your translation, however at least in our region 
and I think that maybe in the other rural towns a rancho as the 
locals call it can be the one house with it's small plot of land. 
When we went in September you travelled down the dirt roads on the 
outskirts of town and every little house had it's own name such as La 
Palma, La Trinidad, El Monte De Duranes etc.
> I have talked to some of the local elders and they said that in the 
past most Ranchos had more than one dwelling with multiple families 
in each Rancho, but now many of the previous Ranchos are abandoned as 
most everyone has left to live en El Norte con los guerros.
>  
> Joseph, I guess just like the foods of Mexico it's all regional, in 
some areas a Rancho is a big ranch and in some areas it can be a 
little cottage.
>  
> Alicia
>

Comentario

Literaly, rancho translates as ranch or farm.  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 
> What would the English equivelent of a rancho be????
> 
> I think of it as a small, small community as in a large neighborhood.
> 
> what are others thoughts on this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph

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