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David, Thanks for the explanation. I had been wondering about the term "Estancia". I've also seen "Estanzuela" and I would guess it derived from the word "Estancia"? The other term I've come across is "Puesto". I picture that to be even smaller than a Rancho, but I am not sure. I really haven't looked into it. Does anyone know? Maria Cortez Elk Grove, CA --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "David P. Delgado" <dpdelgado@j...> wrote: > Joseph, > > I think that the closest English equivalent of "rancho" is "town". The word town is as small and varied as the word "rancho". A town can be anything from a single dwelling to a formally organized group of homes and families with formal organization. I think it's important to keep in mind that some words in use today are holdovers from long ago. For example, "villa" meant a community with at least 25 white european families as permanent residents. Permission had to petitioned from the Spanish Crown to be granted such status. A "pueblo" was a community in which biracial, white, and indigenous people lived. A "ranchería" was a community of indigenous people only (usually "wild", i.e. unbaptized). The other term I have seen while reading old documents is "estancia". This last word refers to a bivouac area. These terms and their meanings disappeared along with the Spanish after Mexico separated from Spain. I think that the word "pueblo" has remained in the voaculary of many people but meaning that are different from place to place. I think it's really difficult to find a simple equivalent because words change so much over time in English as well as in Spanish. > > David Delgado in Albany, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> > Sent: Jul 1, 2005 4:07 PM > To: LosRanchos <ranchos@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [ranchos] What is a Rancho??? > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > <BR> > What would the English equivelent of a rancho be????<BR> > <BR> > I think of it as a small, small community as in a large neighborhood.<BR> > <BR> > what are others thoughts on this?<BR> > <BR> > thanks,<BR> > <BR> > joseph<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > > <?---- LSpots keywords ?> > <?---- HM ADS ?> > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;"> > <hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;"> > <tt>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS</tt> > </div> > <br> > <ul> > <tt><li type=square> Visit your group "<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos">ranchos</a>" on the web.<br> </tt> > <tt><li type=square> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<br> <a href="mailto:ranchos- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe">ranchos- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</a><br> </tt> > <tt><li type=square> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> > </ul> > <br> > <div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;"> > <hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;"> > </div> > </br> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > </body></html> > > > > > David P. Delgado
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Alicia, Right. A "rancho" refers in México to a small plot of land dedicated either to agricultural farming or animal husbandry. It can have one or more houses and it usually is the property of a single family. An "hacienda" is like a ranch but on a much larger scale, it can have many houses and people, usually the owners and the workers that attend the fields and animals. A "poblado" is a community or settlement of people larger than a rancho or hacienda, but smaller than a village. The Mexican equivalent of a village is a "villa" or a "pueblo". This is the intermediate entity between a poblado and a "ciudad" or city. Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote: > Victor, > > You are correct in your translation, however at least in our region and I think that maybe in the other rural towns a rancho as the locals call it can be the one house with it's small plot of land. When we went in September you travelled down the dirt roads on the outskirts of town and every little house had it's own name such as La Palma, La Trinidad, El Monte De Duranes etc. > I have talked to some of the local elders and they said that in the past most Ranchos had more than one dwelling with multiple families in each Rancho, but now many of the previous Ranchos are abandoned as most everyone has left to live en El Norte con los guerros. > > Joseph, I guess just like the foods of Mexico it's all regional, in some areas a Rancho is a big ranch and in some areas it can be a little cottage. > > Alicia >
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Literaly, rancho translates as ranch or farm. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote: > > What would the English equivelent of a rancho be???? > > I think of it as a small, small community as in a large neighborhood. > > what are others thoughts on this? > > thanks, > > joseph
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